Landlord has upped my metre to £4 a day

[Ccickenroast]

Hello I currently live on top of a shop and we are on a sub metre so the main supply runs from the shop but I pay for my eletric tokens for my own prepaid metre. So I give the shop the money for my eletric token to help contribute to the main metre. Now the shop has recently become vacent so now the landlord has had a bill. Which he doesn't want to pay it seems. So he said for me to pay him in installments or he does something to my prepaid metre. So since Friday evening when I topped up I've gone from £37 to now £25 and its only Sunday! Is this right hes put my metre to start at £4 a day?

It's shocking how much is going down I hardlyuse any eletric see. The landlord is reluctant to swap the metres due to not wanting to pay to have it done. Yes I pay council tax

£1.20 a day is exceedingly low usage. So is it possible that some of the £500 is your usage anyway? I guess it depends how long the shop has been subsidising you for.

I may be wrong on this, but I think there's a recent law prohibiting landlords withholding the energy rebate.

As someone else pointed it, he's effectively re-selling the energy.

It's always been that what I pay for my elelteric goes towards the shops eletric so when I top up the money went to the shop. But now it goes to the landlord because the shop is vacent. That's how its been for 5 years since this landlord took over. He's never been bothered before due to the shop paying but now he become automaticlly liable for the shop he's getting out of wanting to pay things.

I pay him for electricity card tokens see then that token money he gets of me contributes to the shops main electricity supply. Plus I think he's getting my rebate also I'm not sure on the rebate one. I'll need to contact citizens advice for advice on that.

It sounds to me like he’s financially abusing you. He should NOT be fiddling with your meter at all. Please do contact citizens advice asap.

That's the landlord bill for the shop he wanted me to pay it.im sure he said he had the rebate money to go towards it and my token money so I only had to pay £470

Which he said if I couldnt pay in instalments this was the other option. Hoping citezns advice can give me help and support because it's ridiculous how quick the elelteic is going down.

Did the shop tenants move out in July per chance?

August they moved out Ilovepotato

You are not allowed to make s profit from reselling electricity. Secondly you need to make sure you are only paying 5% vat (residential) and not 20% which is the commercial rate. This also is not allowed.
Thirdly you are entitled to receive the £400 rebate.
You need to take advice e.g. Shelter and push back hard.
Sounds like blackmail to me and remember it is illegal for your landlord to cut off your electrical.
You need to get all the facts and challenge/report him. The law is on your side.

20 questions thank you going to be phoning around first thing.he has basically put that charge up because I wouldn't pay the shops bill addressed to him a tic for tact sort of thing. Definitely been treated unfairly. My son dad said I shouldn't of let him in to fiddle with the metre until I had everything written down in writting as of what he was going to do.

I'm to kind for my own good i didn't think any of it threw.

What do you mean when you say he's done something to/fiddled the meter? Is it a representative from an energy company or is he doing this himself? It's illegal to tamper with meters - and dangerous to boot!

Sorry OP, but its tit for tat not tic for tact! That's one of thoe phrases that if you've never seen it written down then you're not always sure what it is but I couldnt let you go on saying tic for tact.

Are you aware of your rights as a renter? He has no right to enter your property like that. Does he come in for other reasons? Is he very invasive in general?

Maybe it would be better for you to try and find somewhere else to rent.

Thank u for correcting me ha. He doesn't reallly come here much only lately due to the shop being vacant where he's sorting bits out in the flat. 808Kate1 I'm unsee what he's done to the metre my son dad thinks he's stuck a card in ( where the tokens go) to activate a higher rate I didnt watch him do it see I stayed in the living room but there is only 2 buttons on there for him to press. Button 1 for emergency credit which I don't have on there BTW I have no emergency never have for some wierd reason and button 2 is just setting so I'm unsure what he's done to the metre to make it charge me this much.

Sorry yes the landlord did something to the metre no one form the electricity supply's or anything. He is doing it as a way where I'll be runnig out of eletric really fast and the money I give him for tokens is the wya of me paying him back for the bill which was adresssed to him and the shop.

I'm not sure what people are struggling with, your post was perfectly understandable.

This all sounds very dodgy and illegal, you need to get advice as pp have said. Maybe citizens advice could help.
Your landlord cannot expect you to pay a bill that is not yours.

@Ccickenroast Let us know how you get on with Shelter/CAB tomorrow - your landlord sounds rogue as f**k. Easier said than done, but if possible you should try moving elsewhere.

It sounds like there is a single electricity supply to the premises I.e. you are not metered separately.

Your landlord has installed a sub meter to recover costs for the flat and has adjusted this to recover more than previously. There are legitimately sub meters sold which are managed by the landlord so he hasn’t tampered with an actual meter.

The bill indicating use of 4-5 kWh per day shows very low usage. The 2900 kWh used by the government for an average U.K. domestic property is about 8kWh per day. If the shop has been empty since august and the bill spans august to October it does seem likely that you are the consumer of all the electricity.

However the bill is very high for that usage by a domestic customer, presumably because it’s on commercial terms and includes VAT at 20%. I don’t think the £66 rebate will apply as it’s a commercial bill.

The landlord is obliged to not charge you more than the electricity has cost him which I think he can probably show he hasn’t as you’re the only occupant.

What does your tenancy agreement state regarding the billing?

Yes the eletric supply is in the shop my metre runs off it which I then pay the shop for my tokens which contributed to the shops main electricity supply. That's how it has always been since I moved in. He didnt have a problem for the whole 4 ish years since he bought the building and there was people leasing the shop. Its only now happened because he's become liable for the shops bills etc. He really needs to separate the main supply and me have my own but he won't spend any money to do it. So it's always going to be thid awful workout.

Gallia the agreement has been I pay for my electric tokens of the shop then my money which I give for tokens contributes to the eeltricrlty usage thats how its always been and there's never been a issue. Until the lady in the shop vacated and it become the landlords responsibility

But if the shop is vacant presumably no or very little electricity is being used on that premises? It seems very unlikely you are using significantly less than the 4kwh shown on the bill?

This is what I dont understand how the bill was so high. The original bill from august 11th up until October was £730 but where he gets the rebate and he had the electric money of me for my tokens he managed to pay of half it it which he said i had to pay the rest which was £478. He told me I could pay in instalments or do it this way where I'm spending more on my eletricity metre

You need to find unit rate your metre is set at
get on Google and fing out how to look the digital display should tell u