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Can a child attend the school that a NRP teaches at?

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ThisMustBeMyDream · 07/03/2019 22:57

Asking for my other half as he doesn't use forums like this.
He will be a primary school teacher. He lives 16 miles from his daughter. He intends to work in the area his daughter lives. The school he hopes to work at is directly behind the mums older childs school.
He currently has 5/14 arrangement.
He would like his daughter to attend the school he works at because it means that both mum and dad can be fully involved in her school life. If she attends a different school, he may never get to go to her events, where as her mum will always get to go (she doesn't work). There are also benefits to being a child at your parents school (I can testify to this as a kid who went to her mums school, and my DS who went to grandmas school where she was the headteacher).
He has compared the two schools start and finish times, and as they back on to each other with a direct route to the doors, drop off and pick up will be more than possible for mum when it is her days.
This will have to go to court as he knows mum won't agree to it.
Does anyone have any idea on what the court would view as better for a child? To be in a school that older sibling goes to, or to attend the school dad works at if both schools are next to each other and it isn't difficult to do the school run for the mum?

He needs to decide on what to do. As he could work somewhere a bit closer to home if the court are never going to agree to it. We don't know any other separated teacher dads to ask what happened for them!

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MyOtherProfile · 14/03/2019 15:27

@ThisMustBeMyDream I've asked this before but haven't really had an answer. What does he think are the advantages of having her in his school rather than the nect door one? It's not like he will be able to hang out with her in the playground.

IsAStormApporaching · 14/03/2019 15:40

I'm not even finished reading this thread and think it's the most selfish thing I have read.
You dsd will beifit so much from being at the same school as her older sibling.
The fact dad is will to split them is so sad.
And expecting the mum to juggle 2 school runs to two schools, 2 school plays, 2 parents nights. It's a logistical nightmare.

All your dp needs to do is contact whatever school the child goes to and ask for a separate information on events- which he is entitled to- and then he can plan his Schedual around the events like any other working parent does.
Many parents work and don't get to every function sadly.

ThisMustBeMyDream · 14/03/2019 15:43

Why should which she? Mother or daughter? Mother doesn't have to. She can choose. Same as dad can.

Nocauserebel that was an absolute waste of your time. Very little in your post has any relevance to this particular set of circumstances.

As for competing events. There won't be any. Because, as i intimated previously, mum does not involve herself in school life. So many of you are projecting on here. You may be an involved mum attending various events. This mum is not. She has very little regard for school, education in general, and her attitude is that not going to school regulalry didn't do her any harm. Yes, I have heard her say that. And if I was the childs other parent, I'd want to do everything I could to counteract that too.

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 15:46

All I’m getting from this is a very controlling man scraping the barrel to cling onto whatever control he can. It’s quite sinister.

Bluestitch · 14/03/2019 15:48

She's the one who will be doing the bulk of the school runs and care so surely what is better logistically for them as a family unit matters the most.

kenandbarbie · 14/03/2019 16:00

I think from the dd point of view it's better to keep siblings together. My children all play together in the playground with other sets of siblings, they have play dates and parties where the big and little brothers and sisters go, parents share pick ups for activities that both sets of siblings are in, they are in plays, sports etc together, lots of siblings do scouts together and other mixed age activities that are associated with the school, Christmas / Easter / Halloween etc fairs are the same, they share common interests that are popular in the school at the time i.e. in our school they all like ninjago, but no one plays fortnite, they share other things at school like world book day and school trips, visits from sports teams or writers. It would be a pity to miss out on that.

ThisMustBeMyDream · 14/03/2019 16:02

Myotherprofile the benefits to his DD are due to mums disregard for education. If dad can be fully involved (which will be difficult when he is at another school, although not impossible of course). There are others but this is his main motivation.

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 16:09

Parents up and down the country are fully involved in their child’s education without actually having to work in the school. Most parents don’t work in their DCs school and yet are fully involved. Many parents work full time and yet are fully involved in their child’s education. Seriously, if he actually wants to be involved in her education it won’t matter a jot what school she is at.

titchy · 14/03/2019 16:12

So why isn't he fighting tooth and nail to have the older child moved if the benefit to having dad in the school is so amazing? Or to have majority residence if the mother is so shit? And what happens if he doesn't actually complete the PGCE? Or admissions criteria change?

ThisMustBeMyDream · 14/03/2019 16:14

Good job you couldn't be more wrong maxi. Grin

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ThisMustBeMyDream · 14/03/2019 16:16

Titchy the other child is none of his business. And do you know how hard it is to change residency? It isn't going to happen unless she is a spectacularly bad mother.

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 16:19

Good job you couldn't be more wrong maxi.

Confused

Seriously? You don’t think parents who aren’t teachers in their kids school are fully involved in their DC education? You can’t seriously be saying that.

Bluestitch · 14/03/2019 16:21

The thing is, you clearly think he is completely in the right about everything, all the time and are very defensive to any other opinions. It was the same on your other thread when he went to court. But they didn't agree with him and reduced his contact and you were completely shocked because your narrative is that he is a saint. I understand you are his biggest cheerleader but maybe that isn't actually best for him and he needs a bit more of a realistic perspective as I have a feeling he might be in for another upset if he takes this to court.

ThisMustBeMyDream · 14/03/2019 16:22

In response to this maxi Hmm... All I’m getting from this is a very controlling man scraping the barrel to cling onto whatever control he can. It’s quite sinister.

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IsAStormApporaching · 14/03/2019 16:26

I am a nursery teacher.
I would never consider putting my child in the same nursery I work. They need to learn to become confident in situations when I will not be there.
Furthermore, keeping in contact with the children's school- which your dp is 100% entitled to do- I am able to plan ahead for events etc.
So does ex not go to parents night for her oldest child?
Not that there could have been to many events considering the oldest has only just joined school in August.
I totally agree your partner should be fully involved is dsd schooling- again it's his right. But I do think it's totally selfish what he is proposing.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 16:32

Hang on, he’s been to court already and has his contact reduced?? Yeah, I was spot on with my second to last post. This is him trying to claw back his control because he had some taken away and he doesn’t like not winning. This is the actions of an angry man. And no court in the land is going to order that a child has to go to the school of a parent who has had contact reduced!! They don’t reduce contact for no reason. Not in court. Wake up op.

Bluestitch · 14/03/2019 16:34

They also ordered the mother have every single Xmas day due to the sibling relationship so I can't see them agreeing to order separate schools for them.

ThisMustBeMyDream · 14/03/2019 16:45

They reduced the number of days because they decided 3 days a week for an under 2 was too much in their opnion. However, overall it was increased due to adding overnights in (total of hours with NRP was increased). Nothing to do with controlling anything or otherwise. Funnily enough there has never been a single allegation made agaisnt him, safeguarding or otherwise.

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NoCauseRebel · 14/03/2019 16:46

Why did he have his contact reduced? Is the other thread in the same name btw?

Quite an apt username fwiw, you’re dreaming OP if you actually believe any of this will happen. And actually, I think that the fact that the only ex who isn’t in contact is the one with children is very telling. It shows what a shit father he clearly is.

Bluestitch · 14/03/2019 16:49

Yes it's in the same name. OP was very upset with the outcome but now for the purpose of this thread it was apparently a good outcome. I think telling him to pick his battles and not take this to court would be a kinder move than blindly supporting everything he does OP.

IsAStormApporaching · 14/03/2019 16:54

Did the child's dm go to the older childs first parents night?

Whippit · 14/03/2019 17:18

OP I said *something like because I couldn’t remember clearly the crux of the thread. But it was that the mum wanted to put her in nursery 5 days a week and your partner didn’t want her to as he could have her some days and there was no point in her being at nursery wasn’t it? Except he was changing his training days and so the mum May have ended up paying for nursery days which she didn’t need or something

It’s clear you think he is 100% in the right even though multiple people have told you he isn’t

NoCauseRebel · 14/03/2019 17:44

The other thread is here (apologies I don’t know how to do a clicky link from the mobile site:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/stepparenting/3442391-Family-court-and-reduction-in-contact-for-private-nursery

But there are huge inconsistencies between this and the other thread:

Firstly, the DP did absolutely go to court to stop the child being put in nursery full-time. Also, the other thread claims that he doesn’t finish his teacher training until the summer 2020 which is not consistent with applying for and being offered jobs now.

Secondly, on this thread it states that the mother doesn’t work and has no intentions of doing so, when on the other thread it says that the reason why the mum wants to put the child in nursery full-time is because she’s going back to work.

Also, on another thread OP claims that the relationship was a short one and ended amicably, yet on the thread linked above OP claims that the partner was a victim of DV and social services were involved? Also, his contact was reduced following the nursery court case, and now he reckons that he’s been told by his barrister (when previously he was self-representing because he couldn’t afford a solicitor, and that was only three months ago) that the courts will order the child to be placed in the school he teaches at even though his course doesn’t finish until 2020 and there is therefore absolutely no way that he’s applying for jobs at this point in time.

This all sounds like bollocks to me. As in, inconsistent bullshit which screams there’s a lot more going on here which the OP isn’t admitting to and I highly doubt that SS are involved because of the mother, more likely it’s because of him.

Bluestitch · 14/03/2019 17:53

I think the story changes to whatever makes OP's partner look better at any given moment.

So on the other thread when his contact was reduced it was a travesty and a grave miscarriage of justice. On this thread when the reduction of contact was used as a negative point against him, it changed to him actually having more contact than previously. On the other thread for the purpose of arguing full time nursery wasn't necessary, he isn't qualifying until 2020 so he can do midweek care. On this thread when people said he can't assume he will get a job at this school he has suddenly got the job. He can do no wrong with the OP, it doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 18:12

I’ve had a glance through that last thread. All came flooding back to me.

Op it isn’t entirely disingenuous for you to imply on this thread that the mother would have no job to take annual leave from for school inset days when the whole basis of the previous thread was that mum was planning ahead for her return to work in April (next month!) and arranging childcare! You were even so certain of her being at work that you had calculated her exact income and what childcare costs she would be paying.