Can a child attend the school that a NRP teaches at?

[ThisMustBeMyDream]

Asking for my other half as he doesn't use forums like this.
He will be a primary school teacher. He lives 16 miles from his daughter. He intends to work in the area his daughter lives. The school he hopes to work at is directly behind the mums older childs school.
He currently has 5/14 arrangement.
He would like his daughter to attend the school he works at because it means that both mum and dad can be fully involved in her school life. If she attends a different school, he may never get to go to her events, where as her mum will always get to go (she doesn't work). There are also benefits to being a child at your parents school (I can testify to this as a kid who went to her mums school, and my DS who went to grandmas school where she was the headteacher).
He has compared the two schools start and finish times, and as they back on to each other with a direct route to the doors, drop off and pick up will be more than possible for mum when it is her days.
This will have to go to court as he knows mum won't agree to it.
Does anyone have any idea on what the court would view as better for a child? To be in a school that older sibling goes to, or to attend the school dad works at if both schools are next to each other and it isn't difficult to do the school run for the mum?

He needs to decide on what to do. As he could work somewhere a bit closer to home if the court are never going to agree to it. We don't know any other separated teacher dads to ask what happened for them!

Lemon not in our area he wouldn't. Depends where you are.

Why on earth would you want to separate siblings?

Completely selfish

That’s depressing lemon. But also not the case in my area either.

Nor in mine. I don't find that schools take men over women just because they are men either. There are a lot of rubbish male teachers out there. Especially the inexperienced ones.

If he can walk in to a preferred school, why not walk in to the adjacent one which the wider family already uses?

I'm afraid doing otherwise, and expecting to divide siblings, sounds frightfully selfish. Not in the DC's interests at all

Is this the man who recently had his contact reduced by the court? He should pick his battles really. Aside from the sibling and practicalities it doesn't sound very fair on the mother to be forced to deal with a school and staff where one of their colleagues is her ex and there is a high conflict situation.

My ds old primary did. But they juggled the teacher so she would never teach in the same year as either of her dcs.
The heads son also went there as did the senco lady's son

Ah I remember this poster from before. He’s been doing his degree part time for ages hasn’t he? And he keeps taking the mum back to court to move days around to fit in with his training, something about wanting her to change the DDs nursery days so he could have her but she was supposed to keep the day open just in case he couldn’t have her?

You got your arse handed to you last time OP, surprised you’re back!

You both sound like a PITA and I would LOVE to hear the mums side of all this

Nope to any of that Whippit. You just made the majority of that up.

He got the job. In fact, he has 2 job offers now. 🤷

He has't been studying part time?

In that case there is a poster with exactly the same family set up as you. Mother was a headteacher, you went to her school, son went to her school, DP is training (part time), has child of the same age etc. Weird!

Good about the job offers. I wouldn't be taking this one on the basis that the daughter will be there, and I'd be questioning your choice of barrister too. BUT surely even if the daughter is at the next door school, it would be convenient to be so close? Good for pick ups etc?

If my ex wanted to split my children up in primary and expected I should do to school runs i would be telling him to fuck right off! I hope she does... not thinking about the kids here just what suits him.

Oh whippit I remember that last thread!!

Wow! Graduated, applied, been shortlisted, interviewed and offered two jobs in 5 working days! Impressive OP.

Haha at this pace he'll be retired anyway by the time she starts school.

bluestitch!

Wow.... you don't know how teaching works. Or any other profession that you qualify from... Cute.

There are jobs for September out now. You apply for them. Then if you're the lucky few, you go through the interview process, and if you're the even luckier one... get offered the job.

Bless. Sorry I had to explain it for you. You must feel a bit daft now.

Anyway, Whippit made the following up:
He's been training for ages. No. He hasn't. It never said that anywhere on the other thread.
He keeps taking mum back to court to fit in days with his training. Not at all. He fit his training around the days he had his child already. Again that was completely clear on the thread.
Nothing to do with her nursery days or whatever you're on about at the end. She doesn't go to nursery. Her mum put in her position statement she wanted to send the child to nursery 5 days a week so he should have his contact reduced to facilitate this. In the end this was not even bought up in court. Which again, was stated in the other thread and you would have known if you had read it before making things up to suit your own agenda.

Why do people try and derail threads with stuff that they have completely made up?! Honestly. It makes you look like you have an axe to grind, and it isnt pleasant.

Regardless of what is and isn’t on the other thread though OP (and I haven’t read it so I have no idea) there isn’t a court in the land which will order that a child attend a certain school because a parent teaches there. 100% not a chance this will happen. School places are allocated by the LEA and if they have parent being a teacher as one of the admissions criteria then perhaps the child might be allocated a place there. However given the mum is likely to be the one doing the school application she will almost certainly put the other school down on the basis of her other child being a sibling there and sibling rule will certainly override parent from tens of miles away.

Added to which, given the child’s primary address is likely to be the mum’s address the dad’s address isn’t within catchment and the child wouldn’t be eligible anyway.

And it’s not going to happen for another couple of years anyway so might as well forget about it. Given your partner hasn’t actually worked as a teacher yet, even if he’s got this job there is no knowing that he A, will want to continue to work in that school, or B, even pass his probation period there. Plus he will have no say in his child joining or not joining the school as allocations are made by the LEA and not the school.

We're looking at secondary school and our preferred school have a criterion of "child of a parent who teaches here who has worked here for at least 2 years" so he might find that him teaching, even if he got a job where he wants to go, doesn't give any immediate advantage.

I understand how the LEA process works. That isn't my question really. Well, I no longer have a question, as it has been answered by his barrister. I'm just coming back to the thread as it popped back up today.
The court can make a decision on which school is applied for. This was the bulk of my question. The LEA allocate the places, but have nothing to do with the choices the parents put down.
Both parents have parental responsibility so the decision on which schools to name are down to both of them.

thismustbemydream aren’t you ashamed to be with a man who will clearly put his own needs before that of his child’s? Taking aside all the LEA procedures / PGCE / court hoops he still has to jump through to get what he wants, at the crux of it is a child.

I couldn’t be with a man like your partner, and your support of someone so selfish and self centrered I think is what the majority of people on here are shocked about.

I’m an ex-teacher and think it creates as many logistical problems as it solves.

Before school, for example. Your DP will have a lot of work to do. How will he supervise his child and get it done? How will he attend morning meetings? Often these are 0800 or 0815. These may pass on confidential information and children would not be allowed to sit in. Children are not allowed in classrooms unsupervised. Nor can she be left in the playground until supervision begins. He is an NQT, so his grounds to be asking for favours from the school or from other members of staff are pretty limited.

For TAs I think it works fine, as the hours align.

You are making an awful lot of assumptions there.

On the contrary, he is a kind, thoughtful, intelligent man to whom I am proud to have a relationship with. His daughter is at the centre of all his decisions. We have had many many discussions about how to do what is best for our respective children. He wants to be an active parent in his childs life. We both come from separated parents. We both know all the myriad of pitfalls that separated parenting brings to children and have sought to avoid these.
Some thoughtful posters gave him some other things to consider (such as the siblings sharing stories of their teachers etc). That was definitely thought provoking. However there are certainly counter arguements to those things from the childs perspective.
Ultimately I know whatever he does will be with his daughter in mind. I have shied away from criticising his ex girlfriend on here. However, his child will be more supported and have more life chances if he is an equal parent. If her mum was able to give her daughter those things, he would step back more. He is doing his best for his child in the circumstances he finds himself in.

FYI: he is still in contact with his all his ex's, one of whom I have met, and who sent up gifts at easter and Christmas for MY children as well as his. I think that is rather telling that even when the romatic relationship has failed, he and his ex's have maintained friendships. Out of 6 ex's, 5 of them have maintained a friendship with him and keep in touch. The only one with any issue is the one who he met and had a brief relationship with before she became pregnant. Once she was pregnant, she didn't want to know him and pushed him away continuously. And yes, I know why his previous relationships failed. They are all perfectly normal reasons.

Maybedoctor, wrap around care on his days. And the mums too if she wanted it. Its a 7.30-6 opening hours school.

Why should she have to use wraparound care though, just to facilitate this selfish desire of your boyfriend. As primary carer it will be much harder for her to have children in two different schools and be doing school runs to two places and dealing with potentially clashing events/demands on her time. It is quite divisive for the children. He needs to accept that his DD is part of a wider family and has a sibling.

He won’t be providing wraparound care though, the after school club will, and she can go into after school club in any school she’s at, so no, that argument doesn’t hold water.

And we’re talking about a child who isn’t due to start school for another eighteen months during which time anything could happen, the mum could even choose to move out of catchment and put the other child in a different school altogether. Remember it is the mum’s address which determines which school the child goes to, his address won’t be taken into account given it’s not even in that authority.

Is his name on the birth certificate? Because if not then no he doesn’t have PR. And given you say that the mum dropped out of touch as soon as he fell pregnant I can’t imagine she rushed to put his name on the birth certificate.

But let’s look at the realistic facts here,not the crock of shite his barrister is spouting.

He hasn’t started working in this job yet. There is absolutely no knowing whether or not he will like working for this particular school, and even if he does, he hasn’t passed the probation period yet. Equally the school could end up making redundancies due to budget cuts and so on, and if they do he will be the first out the door. Added to which, you are expecting the courts to award the child attend a school which the parents haven’t even applied for yet, based on the fact the father will start working there in September so doesn’t actually work there yet, and the expectation that he will want or even be able to work there for the next seven years until she goes to secondary. And what then of the other child who is in a different school? Do you expect the courts to make different rulings based on different children? After all, the other child is already at school, so the courts aren’t going to order that that child be moved given it’s A, not his child, and B, so that the siblings are in the same school... Added to which, lots of parents don’t get to attend school events, such is life.

Will he be suggesting her sibling attends the same academy? Seeing as it’s all about what’s best for his child?
FWIW I have known several teachers who decided to stop teaching when their kids hit school age. The before and after school care required was too complex to manage, whereas nurseries were way more flexible. Even at the same school.
Is wrap around care in his daughters best interests?
Having had two and then three children in different schools (by virtue of age not deliberately picking different settings) it is a fucking nightmare. To start with the holidays lined up. Then they didn’t. I couldn’t be in two or three places at once so one kid was always late or I couldn’t go to assembly/ play/ whatever.
I realise he doesn’t give a fuck as he only has the one child. Nightmare for her mother who has to balance needs. And no empathy from him for taking her to court to literally split up her kids and make her life harder.
Nice chap.