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Is anyone here involved in criminal law?

67 replies

Binglebong · 14/10/2018 16:44

I'd like to know why someone wasn't prosecuted and to get the CPS to rethink it. I have no idea where to start. Thanks.

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Bluntness100 · 14/10/2018 16:48

I think you should speak to the police. Were you involved in the case? As in was it you who pressed charges? The police should have explained to you why they were not prosecuting.

Binglebong · 14/10/2018 17:09

No, sorry I wasn't clear. I know of an event where a famous person did something that was illegal. They are now promoting this as something good to do. So it would seem to be in the public interest to prosecute.

I don't know if there was ever an investigation but there is a lot of evidence (including recordings of them admitting it) and I want to know why there was no prosecution.

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Binglebong · 14/10/2018 17:09

Thank you for your concern btw. Smile

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NauticalDisaster · 14/10/2018 17:15

Ask for this to be moved to Legal Matters you’ll get more relevant advice there, I think.

RepealtheGRA · 14/10/2018 17:25

Binglebong

I know of a similar incident. I have written to my MP to ask. If I get a response I will let you know......

Bluntness100 · 14/10/2018 17:28

I really don't understand why it's to do with you? For whatever reason the cps decided not to prosecute it is nothing to do with you.

Binglebong · 14/10/2018 17:36

Thank you Nautical and Repeal.

If someone is performing illegal activities with no consequences then it should be highlighted. If no one interested when it was none of their business then there would be a lot more unhappiness in the world and there is more than enough already! No one stepping in to stop muggings, no one reporting child abuse, no one commenting on care homes, no one saying if they find list or stolen properties. Civilisation relies on people interfering when it is none of our business.

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Redshoeblueshoe · 14/10/2018 17:38

I can't believe Bluntness doesn't know who you are talking about

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/10/2018 17:40

Don't get it moved to Legal.
If you have friends high up in the Woke Police then you will not get prosecuted
HTH

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 14/10/2018 17:42

Well I think we all know who this is Grin

But I don’t know that you’ll be able to get the info. Would it come under a FOI request? I guess probably not.

BoomBoomsCousin · 14/10/2018 17:44

Do you know if it was even investigated by police? If not, the starting point would probably be to make a complaint to the police in the place where the crime was committed (you can do it at your own police station, but it’s the sort of things that adds layers of buck passing opportunity).

Normally only victims have a right of review for decisions not to prosecute. I would probably write to newspapers, the CPS office that made the deciscion and see my MP, but agree with about that Legal Matters should get you better advice. You need to be clear and put your case in terms that the CPS will give weight to.

Cobrider · 14/10/2018 17:47

You can make a complaint through the CPS. The procedure is on their page.

Bluntness100 · 14/10/2018 17:51

No I genuinely don't know who this is. Can someone pm me or say?

All I know is if someone says they broke the law, then the police do not tell any one who cares to ask why they did not prosecute. The individual is permitted privacy. It's no different if you're famous.

On saying that, I've no idea who is being spoken about here.,.

Cobrider · 14/10/2018 17:53

It’s not the police who decide on prosecution, it’s the CPS.

mothertominibeasts · 14/10/2018 17:54

Who is it???

RepealtheGRA · 14/10/2018 18:00

My assumption here has always been that the lack of prosecution is due to the victim not seeing themselves as a victim and therefore no complaint has been made. My concern is more around are they in receipt of public money to enable this a famous person did something that was illegal. They are now promoting this as something good to do.

I have no training in criminal law, hence my letter to MP.

Bluntness100 · 14/10/2018 18:03

Sorry I wasn't insinuating the police prosecuted, but it's the police who tell the victim why the cps did not prosecute.

And as said, I've no idea what's been spoken about here.

Penninepain · 14/10/2018 18:03

It does not involve a bath and waccy baccy does it?

H1dingInSight · 14/10/2018 18:05

I truly haven’t got a scooby what or who you’re all talking about. I’d appreciate a PM too, please?

itswinetime · 14/10/2018 18:07

I'm another who's in the dark so on the plus side whatever they are promoting they aren't doing it very well

Wonderowl · 14/10/2018 18:11

Who is it?

Bluntness100 · 14/10/2018 18:13

I'm another who's in the dark so on the plus side whatever they are promoting they aren't doing it very well

Clearly not. Unless nigella lawson has started telling people coke is great. 🤣

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 14/10/2018 18:16

On the contrary they are promoting it very effectively through a charity/pressure group/advice service. But this is one for the feminism board I think.

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/10/2018 18:19

It was on the Feminist board, until someone suggested moving it.

Susie Green.

HeronLanyon · 14/10/2018 18:25

Cps apply two stage test. 1. Is there a realistic prospect of a conviction? 2. Is it in the public interest to prosecute ? So it will be one or both of these operating against pursuing a prosecution. Police are not always able to tell members of the public why something has not been charged. As an example if the only witness to seomthing (with no other evidence) has previous convictions for offences of dishonesty and reasons to lie then if the decision was on q 1 ‘no’ the police would not
Disclose convictions to a member of the public enquiring in most circs etc