Physical restraint to enforce a court order

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Just that really. DD 11 refused to go to contact - see previous thread.

DD was crying and screaming in school refusing to go to contact. She expressed her issues to the teachers who told her that she still had to go because of the court order. She left school "with" him but actually walked off with her mates.

He then followed her to the park and followed her and her mates around for three hours whilst I got repeated texts from various friends about his behaviour. He then decided it was time to leave and physically dragged her through the park. She resisted and he slapped her. He dug his nails into her skin. A man tried to intervene and was told not to. He then physically put her in a taxi.

I'm getting all sorts of phonecalls and texts from her mates and I don't know what to do.

I would phone the police, explain your daughter has been assaulted and you are worried about her welfare. At the very least they can do a safe and well check.

Id definitely ring the police. Slapping someone is assault, and even worse to do so to a child! It must have been pretty bad for someone to try and intervene

Can you go a local FB site and put an appeal out for witnesses to contact you, esp the man you mention. May come in handy if needed later on.
Sorry this is happening to you, would definitely contact the police and also speak to the school and ask them to speak to social services too.

Police are there now as someone witnessed similar in his street.

I read your other thread, I don't suppose your daughter could appeal to the courts as her Human Rights have been massively breached? I feel awful for both your children and for you.

Good. I hope they bring your children back to you where they're safe.

The assault on her puts him in the wrong.
She needs to tell the police .
If she has marks on her then that may escalate things against him

Don't contact witnesses yourself let police do that.
The assault should trigger police /ss action and investigation. Be prepared for them coming to talk to you dd etc but let them lead it.

OP this is horrendous. I really hope she is now home with you. Pleas obtain legal advice so she does not have to go through this again.

Can you also warn the school of his behaviour?

If they ask you if you want to pursue as assault say yes.

The police have left and left them there.

So the police aren't concerned about her welfare? They've presumably seen the nail marks on her skin? The red mark from where she was hit?

OP, is this all reported from your DDs mates? Of course you should take it seriously, but unless you have witnessed this, you only have the information from girls at an age where everything is very dramatic and exaggerated (I have a 12 year old DD who often says her DB "punched" her, and most of the time I was present and he didn't, she was vastly exaggerating). So again, do take it seriously, but also remember that you have only got what some 11 year girls told you.

Where was your son while all this was going on?

An adult also witnessed it.

He told the police that nothing happened, they just weren't coming home quickly enough for their tea.

When she comes back to you I would be phoning the police again. Running late for your tea is an appalling reason. Not that I am saying anything is a good enough reason.
I would also call the school first thing to let them know, although they probably will know as the others will be talking about it. This would be followed by a call to the solicitor to get some emergency order in place to stop contact.

It all feels very futile. If I do that, he will just lie again and it will just go against me again. What does it take?!

Get the school to also report to SS. They have a duty of care. If it's coming from the school then they cannot say it's you bullshitting. Plus you have no influence on the independent witnesses. Then there are his nasty voice mails, again concrete evidence without your influence. Get her to disclose to a teacher. It's neglect that he didn't report her missing over the weekend.
Sorry I would be shouting from the roof tops to end this abuse and neglect. I would and have talk to anybody and everyone.

Keep all the texts from her concerned friends and use those as evidence. See if you can get them seen tonight, ring 101.

I have read your previous thread.
The only way to get anywhere is for your dd to disclose to a teacher.
The courts and SS have already decided anything you say is false and must be ignored.
I am so sorry for you and your dc.

Ok. get yourself down to the family court. Give them a signed statement setting out what you've put here. Include photocopies of all the texts from DD's friends. Make an application to vary the child arrangements order to indirect contact only.

You should be given a court hearing. If the judge won't agree to a temporary suspension of contact, ask for your DD to be added as a party and for a Guardian to be appointed for her. This gives her a voice in the court case..

If she has nail marks she needs to tell teacher her father caused them
That should trigger safeguarding

I think she is old enough for you to explain why she needs to tell a teacher.

Travatia are you trained? She had a guardian who decided that she would never be competent to make the decision herself as she made the original decision that she didn't want contact too young and she has stuck with it. She has also made statements that low level abuse is preferable to no relationship with her father.

Sorry, I didn't know the back story.