Police called out to my crying screaming daughter!

[paulanthony1976]

Hi everyone,
So our families bank holiday was ruined by a knock at the door on Saturday night at 10.30pm by the police. Someone had reported a disturbance from our home which the police came to investigate.

I was in bed already, as were the kids, and my wife was getting ready for bed when they knocked us up and interrogated us like criminals. About an hour earlier my 3 year old daughter had been kicking screaming crying tantrum as she didn't want to go to bed, but she soon wore herself out and was fast asleep when the cops came.

They took my kids names and birthdays and school details etc, as well as my wives and mine personal and work details. They had a good look around the house, checked on the kids sleeping in their rooms, asked us lots of questions and then left. Upon leaving the police told us they were satisfied that it was a false alarm, that the matter was closed, and that we had nothing to be worried about.

The next day on Bank Holiday Sunday at 9am, the police returned to our cul-de-sac, knocked on all our friends/neighbours doors and asked lots of questions about our family and if they had heard noise. Needless to say when the police left all our friendly neighbours came back over to us to tell us about their interviews with the police and to get the gossip from us and to express their support to us, and to condemn the "snake in the grass" living among us, and the for wasting the police time.

Although we had done nothing wrong, we now feel like criminals, and losing sleep worrying. Not to mention being gossiped about by our neighbours, even though all our kids play together in the street.

We are really angry at being falsely accused of something, a 3 year old cannot legally create a disturbance, can they? also angry at being told it was a closed matter, when then the next day they came back to interrogate our friends and neighbours. Can I complain for harassment and intimidation, or for defamation and libel?

I am now walking on broken glass every time my kids throw a tantrum and fearful of another public complaint or visit by the police and/or social services.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcomed please.

I think it's been established that it's sensible to call the police if you are worried about the welfare of a child, and feel that knocking on the door yourself might put you at risk of a) violence/verbal abuse, or b) quite possibly being patronised to death.

Or if Portofino is singing.

Especially if portofino is singing

Wait a minute, paul. You were very derogatory about an "old" woman (in her 50s/60s) moving into a street you classified as full of "young, vibrant families". When pulled up about your (insulting) use of old, you said that 50 is old compared to someone in their 30s.
And now you say you were married in 1976?
Something is very strange here. You implicitly identify yourself with these "young, vibrant families", talk about 50/60 from the standpoint of someone 20 years younger - and yet you are at least in your late 50s.
Given that degree of misinformation, it's no wonder people are a little suspicious of your honesty here.
But since you ask - no your tenancy agreement does not over-rule other laws. A nuisance/disturbance is not defined by your individual tenancy agreement. It is an agreement - a bilateral contract between two parties. It is not binding upon those who are not a party to that agreement and in no way supercedes laws. For example, your tenancy agreement might state you can fire a sub-machine gun in the garden, but I wouldn't recommend trying it out. Hope that clarifies matters for you.

Sorry for the triple post!

We are EPIC screamers in my family!

We must be related countess

Maybe an old single lady should not have moved to a street full of young, vibrant, families with playful and LOUD children
since when was 50s 'old'?

maybe your 'vibrant' and 'loud' is other people's 'fucking annoying and inconsiderate'?

Well he's not going to come back now, is he?? You've all chased him off!

Shame. I was enjoying that

It was Portofino's singing. She done it.

OP I know an older lady who lives in a large house in a family area. She happens to be a retired Child protection lead.

I doubt she would have knocked on your door. But I know she would have alerted the police to her concerns.

I appreciate that the police visit has hit a nerve with you, but would urge you to reflect on your role in this some more. Most people here strive to be the best parents that they can, but sometimes, despite our best intentions, we get it wrong. You have to take some of the responsibility for your child's tantrum, because they were tired.

Are you a good enough parent to park your anger with your neighbour/s and hold your hands up?

It wasn't Porto what did it.

It was the thought of Coldplay and Simply Red in one go.

It made Paul Anthony/Paula and Tony explode with excitement.

I'm still wondering why old Paul (old by his own standards, that is) is so keen to associate himself with these " vibrant young families and not the older lady, who might even be younger than him?
Also want to know if there are any young stagnant families on his street.

I know the way the OP has phrased things has not garnered her much sympathy, I want to offer that sympathy as it must have been a mortifying experience and I dread anything like that happening! Mine have been very noisy at bed and bath time as well at times but fortunately I am surrounded by families.

So, today my daughter was found to have come down with the measles in reaction to the MMR she had early last week,
so this really does explain alot of my daughters recent upsets and behaviour, and not because she is an out of control or naughty girl or whatever else and not because she was being abused or anything else untoward as the complainant and some people seemed to think. The End.

Ahhhh, so you DID namechange! Sorry about your dd feeling poorly. The End.

So, there was something out of the ordinary about the crying then, as she was very poorly?
Not sure what you think you've proved here!

I hope your DD feels better soon. Now that you have acknowledged that the crying was unusual hopefully you can let go of your anger towards the police and whichever neighbour complained.

The end. hopefully

Maybe an old single lady should not have moved to a street full of young, vibrant, families with playful and LOUD children? Maybe, I should secretly drop some 'earplugs' through her letterbox as a little hint?

passive aggressive much? And you wonder why the 'complainant' didn't knock?

I'd go for a bit less obvious namechange if I were you.

(PS I don't think the OP gets to decide when a thread ends.)

"(PS I don't think the OP gets to decide when a thread ends.)"

But the people in charge of this web-forum at Mums Net Head Quarters can decide when a thread ends. I had an email this morning from one person at MNHQ regarding this thread and some of the posts within it.

My namechange might not be that inventive, but it does not matter at the end of the day, because regardless of false usernames or fake email addresses, IP addresses always reveals a members personal address wether tehy want it too or not, and whether posters here realise that or not is neither here nor there.

The End, lol.

Love the irony of the OP doing nothing but throw tantrums in response to mostly sensible and fair comments Calm down, dear!

My namechange might not be that inventive, but it does not matter at the end of the day, because regardless of false usernames or fake email addresses, IP addresses always reveals a members personal address wether tehy want it too or not, and whether posters here realise that or not is neither here nor there.

Has someone been drinking??

Ps You know you're old, right?

IP addresses always reveals a members personal address wether tehy want it too or not, and whether posters here realise that or not is neither here nor there.

No it does not.

And what did the email from MNHQ say then? Cos it's still here isn't it?

Plus. What are you going on about?