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If something terrible happened to me, can I stop PIL taking care of DC?

77 replies

istheresomethingicando · 01/03/2011 14:41

Morbid I know but the thought of this is worrying me.

PIL have an abusive relationship themselves and I believe they abused DH as a child.

Is there anything I can do to legally prevent my PIL caring for my DC if anything happens to me?

I trust my DH to look after DC if I wasn't here but I know he would happily leave DC in there care.

He makes excuses for the things they've done and insists he was a naughty child and deserved it.

Is there anything I can do, just myself without involving DH, to ensure that if I die before DC turn 18 that they cannot be left in the care of PIL?

The only evidence I have of what they did is things they themselves have said happened and things DH has told me.

I can stop them being alone with DC while I'm around but I worry about what would happen if something terrible happens and I can't be there.

I can't tell DH about this. Is there anything I can do?

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iskra · 07/03/2011 10:14

Didn't Angela Gordon refuse to let social workers in to the house to see Khyra?

Resolution · 07/03/2011 12:06

I think so, yet this numpty thinks it's alright to advise people to do just that.

smh

melvinscomment · 07/03/2011 13:06

@ iskra :- I am not willing to comment on specific high profile cases but any parent following my advice will take their child to see the state workers if that is requested and or appropriate.

@ Resolution :- I deny being a numpty. In fact I am probably vastly more intelligent than you.

melvinscomment · 07/03/2011 13:21

@ Resolution :- Make that vastly more polite than you......and slightly more intelligent!

Resolution · 07/03/2011 13:41

I make no apologies for my response to your godawful and damaging advice. I suppose next you'll be proffering advice on medicine and telling the doctors they've got it wrong?

melvinscomment · 07/03/2011 14:24

@ Resolution et al :- I have yet to see you or anyone else specify anything which one is obliged to allow state workers to enter one's home to do, which can't be done at their premises, thereby avoiding the privacy of one's home being invaded.

Resolution · 07/03/2011 16:14

I agree with you. The thing is, your 'advice' is that because SWs can't force their way in to a home, they shouldn't be let in.

If they ever pay you a visit go ahead and do just that. Just don't try and fuck up other people's lives by trying to get them to repeat your folly.

confuddledDOTcom · 07/03/2011 16:42

Our local social services office doesn't have public facilities so you'd have a problem there. Just asked a cpsw and she said of course she'd wonder what was up, she'd want to know what was to hide in the home. A healthy clean child could be living in a canabis factory or anything if you have nothing to hide why would you hide?

I have to wonder if you're name is John and you're from Birmingham I know that nutter is a member of MumsNet and you're sounding just like him.

melvinscomment · 07/03/2011 17:21

@ Resolution :- If any social workers come to my door I will ask them what it is about and if it seems like something which needs more than a couple of minutes discussion will ask them to arrange a meeting at their premises and will politely refuse to let them enter my home, unless of course they happen to be with police officers who have a warrant. I will attend their premises with a friend or family member to witness the discussion.

@ confuddledDOTcom :- If your social services don't have a meeting room, that's their problem. If the social workers think my home may contain a cannabis factory they will need to attend with police with a search warrant. I would subsequently be making enquiries as to why they concluded my home may contain such a factory. I am not John Hemming MP from Birmingham. This is him sitting next to Eric Pickles MP. I am also not Eric Pickles MP :- www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynf3eyfqrfM

Resolution · 07/03/2011 17:38

Melvin - you go ahead and do that if a SW ever pays you a visit. You have my blessing.

confuddledDOTcom · 07/03/2011 18:29

It was just a suggestion of things that could be happening behind closed doors. Why would someone have a reason to suspect something unless they came to your house and if you refuse them access then they'll want to know why, you're telling them there's something to hide and of course they're going to wonder what. I have nothing to hide and wouldn't deny anyone access who has come to see how I'm doing, nice to have someone knock on my door Grin

Interesting that you thought of John Hemming, I take it you're a fan as you sound just like him. I didn't know his reputation spread.

Resolution, I'm so hoping!

melvinscomment · 07/03/2011 21:37

@ confuddledDOTcom :- You could invite Child Protection Worker in for a cup of tea and a chat :-www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrS2qzk8S10

Resolution · 07/03/2011 23:54

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melvinscomment · 08/03/2011 00:38

@ Resolution :- You know where to put your insults.

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melvinscomment · 08/03/2011 01:06

@ BeerTricksPotter :- Why should anyone pay any attention to what you advise about me?

Resolution · 08/03/2011 07:23

I think perhaps Melvin has personal issues in his life that a bit of psychiatric intervention should sort out. Oh, and perhaps SW intervention for his kids.

melvinscomment · 08/03/2011 09:51
Hmm
confuddledDOTcom · 08/03/2011 10:57

I'd rather pay attention to Resolution who's not talking like John's conspiracy nut friend.

I regularly invite CPSWs into my house for a cuppa they tend to call in without warning or with a two minute put the kettle on call. They're not checking up on me or whatever, I'm just convenient for a cup of tea when they're out.

melvinscomment · 08/03/2011 11:38
Brew
DuelingFanjo · 08/03/2011 11:42

another Social worker bashing thread?

Resolution · 08/03/2011 12:39

Not really - just by one nut. The OP never even mentioned SWs - I just mentioned it as a possibility and whoomph....

People like Melvin usually end up sitting next to me on the bus. This is the forum equivalent.

NotActuallyAMum · 08/03/2011 16:38

"People like Melvin usually end up sitting next to me on the bus"

Grin
melvinscomment · 08/03/2011 21:25

....and move seats as soon as another one becomes available!