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If you grew up in a big family.....

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DuggarMother · 29/12/2014 16:57

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somanysiblings · 29/12/2014 22:25

I think my parents loved us and it would have been a very different childhood with fewer of us. There were so many of us so close in age that it must have been unrelenting.

My dad wanted to provide for us but that meant working 6 days a week, very long days so although he was a nice man and a benign presence he was never really there.

MmeMorrible · 29/12/2014 22:25

Youngest (by a long way) of 5 and hated it. Always assumed as an accident and nothing I do is ever new or interesting. Getting married? Already had 4 weddings. Grandchildren? Already have 10 of those....

LuckyCharms · 29/12/2014 22:25

Sorry should say LARGEST age gap was 22 months, the smallest was 14 months!

MrsTawdry · 29/12/2014 22:29

I was one of 4 and looking back it seemed as the youngest, my siblings did a LOT of my childcare and parented me a lot. They took me to the fair, the bonfire, put me to bed, took me to school.

I was the youngest and often felt a bit left out too. Very happy times too though.

somanysiblings · 29/12/2014 22:31

Lucky charms has described my mum in a nutshell, knackered and overwhelmed. The smallest gap I'm my family is 11 months!

There is only so much one person can do, she was struggling by the 6th child yet went on to have 4 more.

It wrecked her health. She never had friends or a social life. Her 20's and 30's must have been awful yet she chose that life.

PekeandPollicle · 29/12/2014 22:32

Very interesting thread. I'm the oldest of 5 but sib3 died young.

There was no money because of all of us plus dad's very expensive hobby. Dad was more or less absent so mum did her best but there were 10 years between me and the youngest and a 6 year old and teenager need very different attention. dB1 was very ill (now fine) as well which was difficult.

She was much much better at parenting when it was only the youngest 2 at home.

On balance it was a happy childhood but very independent; we all get on well and meet up; we also have varying degrees of anxiety and OCD.

plummyjam · 29/12/2014 22:33

Hi mrs. I can't really put my finger on what I'm trying to say. My parents were interested, loved us deeply and we were extremely well cared for. It wasn't a case of being ignored as such, but my mum in particular was always just so busy doing day to day stuff that we never really connected. And I think when you combine that with siblings who you don't really connect with either it can make for a lonely childhood. Don't get me wrong, loneliness doesn't always equate with unhappiness and feeling unloved. On the whole I had a happy childhood and a very good upbringing that I am extremely grateful for - my parents worked damned hard for us.

Things certainly got better on a personal level as I got older, made friends at high school and definitely after I left home. I think my final point is that being from a large family doesn't always stop you feeling on your own a lot of the time. And I think my mum would agree that having lots of children doesn't always mean you don't feel lonely, especially now we've grown up and my dad's gone.

CaroleLJ · 29/12/2014 22:35

One of five and loved it. Still pretty close now even although we're spread out over different continents.

DH is one of two and I'd find the intensity of that family dynamic quite difficult.

Tisy10 · 29/12/2014 22:37

"To those of you who hated it, do you think it would of been different had there been less of you, or was it just the personality of your parents"

In terms of attention, time, money then of course it would have been different. Mum loves us all and did her best but there physically wasn't enough time, space, money and, most importantly, enough of her to go round! (Stepdad would always have been a shit though!)

However, it's an impossible question really to answer as I don't know any different. Who's to say that something else wouldn't have taken her time instead. And which of us could be removed to give more time. I can't say I wish any of my siblings hadn't existed so that I could have had more time and attention for me (I don't really care about the money but I needed mum to be there for me when I was bullied, to teach me self esteem in myself, to have time to show me all the usual mother/daughter things like having chats about shaving vs waxing, boys, general teenage issues etc.). Do I begrudge the others for taking that time away from me? No I don't. But it was a situation that I hated which I had no control over, and I would not replicate in a million years.

mamapain · 29/12/2014 22:41

MmeMorrible, how bloody horrible is that?! I can't believe your parents sound so disinterested and treat you so meanly. This thread is making me appreciate my parents so much.

My mum has 32 grandchildren and has treated each one like the second coming. My DN lost his first tooth the other day and my parents act as if he's cured cancer. I was the sixth of my siblings to get married and both parents sobbed their way through the entire thing and "couldn't believe I was so grown up", despite having 4 children and already being with DH 10 years.

My parents are not angels, we used to get the belt and my dad has an explosive temper even now, but perhaps I haven't really appreciated before how cherished my parents made us feel, and maybe because I know they genuinely tried their best and never massively fucked up, I can forgive them these small issues.

I can see from some of these stories though, why having a big family can be horrible experience.

Waltermittythesequel · 29/12/2014 23:00

My parents were devoted but 8 children is too many. IMHO

This, except it was over 10 in our house.

DuggarMother · 29/12/2014 23:05

Thanks for sharing such personal stories on this thread.

I am one of eight children.

I do not see this as a good thing. I am the eldest and I feel I had too much responsibility for my siblings growing up. It is something I resent as an adult.

My mum has essentially stopped parenting my younger siblings. She is in survival mode. My dad is no longer around. It is hard.

I struggle to understand my parents' decision to have so many kids. My mum is one of six children herself, and as far as I can see she has been let down, and sufferd through her parents having a big family too.

I do love all my brothers and sisters to bits. That probably sounds like a bit of a contradiction....I am not sure I've worded this properly...I love them lots. It's just I believe it is possible for parents to spread themselves too thinly, and I think that is what my parents did.

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oneowlgirl · 29/12/2014 23:06

Reading this thread with interest as if love to have a 4th DC but not sure due to time & attention (money / house size is fine for 4 DC).

FWIW though, I'm one of 2 & whilst my parents were loving, most of what's been said above is applicable to my upbringing (time, attention, money etc) & although I see my mum most days, we're not actually close & it's really because I'm about all she has nearby.

cerealqueen · 29/12/2014 23:16

Youngest of 5. Very poor, cold house, no space, rarely had anything new, parents never played with me, or ever read to any of us. That was a surprising concept when I had kids myself! No birthday parties, family holidays or friends for tea. I knew we were poor too, and it worried me.

BUT, we got on, played well, I remember summers just being out and playing and having adventures, lots of board games and games we invented. Christmas was great, not loads of presents but my parents did inject magic into it. On the whole, I recall being 'happy' despite all this.

My sister however, was a bully and it took me years to see that her bossiness was something far more harmful.

Interesting reading the comments about friends, I've always been at the edge of social groups, often sidelined and taken for granted.

mathanxiety · 29/12/2014 23:36

Mum was one of eight and dad was one of 11. Mum always said eight was too many (time and money scarce, children very close together - gap between oldest and youngest 12 years) while dad never had any complaints and only ever spoke warmly of his childhood. His siblings were much further spaced apart however and his family had money and nursery staff who were family in all but name. Their governess worked for an aunt of mine when she had her own family. I am the oldest of three - no issues there; and I have five myself. I know in my heart that six would have tipped me into insanity however.

Both of my parents went to boarding school as teenagers. Mum loved it and dad hated it so much he worked his tail off to matriculate early, and left.

williaminajetfighter · 29/12/2014 23:48

One of 5 and really didn't like it - being the only girl with 4 brothers meant things were quite lonely for me despite the large family.

I hated the constrictions of big families: almost impossible to go on a proper holiday, go to a restaurant without things descending into chaos. You develop a much more 'private' less public existence.

The money worries that go along with trying to feed 4 teenage boys not including the rest of us was tough.

I don't understand why people would stretch themselves to have big families and often feel the parents desire to have 'the hustle and bustle' of a big family, or the constant love of a small baby is to the detriment of their children.

I also cringe when I hear about people who are already struggling financially consciously having more children. A friend is in this position and having number 5 and she recently posted one of those platitudes on FB about 'what a child needs is not material things, but love..' Well actually what they need is food, to be housed and a school uniform...but if you can buy that with said 'love' then good luck to you!

Moominmarvellous · 30/12/2014 00:03

I'm quite liking drawing comparisons with this thread, it's very interesting!

One poster said they struggle with being supervised now perhaps as a result of being part of a large family and I feel very similar to this. As the youngest of 6, by the time I came along we were all pretty much left to our own devices (I got up to some crazy things and my parents really didn't have a clue!). However, I always found my own way and learned to enjoy my independence and now find people trying to advise or guide me to be really patronising!

Philoslothy · 30/12/2014 00:23

As a family we go away just about every single holiday, we eat out regularly and it isn't chaos. I do think that my children are enriched by their siblings rather than being deprived.

Gingerfudge · 30/12/2014 04:13

One of six, hated it. I was parented by my older siblings who continued to feel they had control over me into my adult life - that is just plain weird dynamics. Not enough money but it was more the lack of attention from my parents, I remember craving some one to one with them but it was pretty much a case of getting on with it, looking after yourself from a very young age. We are not close as a family and the politics between us is a nightmare, everyone tries to be top dog.

CheerfulYank · 30/12/2014 04:39

I wonder how much spacing counts. My aunt has six and it goes: DD1 and DD2, a year and a half or so apart. Then a gap of four years, then DD3 and DS1, again a year and a half or two apart. Then a bigger gap of three years, then DD4 and DS2, two years or so apart.

My aunt is certainly busy, but she seems very happy and does a lot with the DC (only three left at home now). They've always had little holidays, tons of friends, and their own hobbies. (DD1 was alwas horsey and outdoorsy, is some kind of wildlife biologist now. She and DD2 are chalk and cheese as DD2 is the fashionista of the whole bunch and is studying hair and makeup artistry now. DD3 is at art school, DS1 is the athlete...it goes on.)

They're all extremely close and very protective of DS2, who is the baby as well as having diabetes and Down Syndrome. The older five have already sworn to their parents that he will never have to live in a home, that they will take care of him forever if that's what he needs.

They're a lovely bunch. Only DD2 wished there were less of them when they were younger so she'd have more of a "clothing budget". :)

So I wonder on the spacing. Maybe having them in pairs was helpful with a bit of a " break" in between was helpful, or maybe my aunt and uncle are just extremely attentive and engaged parents.

But then I suppose six is different from ten or twelve, too!

I'd like five myself (am pregnant with DC3). I have only one brother and my childhood was difficult. My brother and I have never been close and I'd have given anything for another sibling.

CheerfulYank · 30/12/2014 04:41

Too many was helpfuls in that sentence. Xmas Blush

HaloItsMeFell · 30/12/2014 06:45

We learnt that he who shouted loudest, who was the 'problem' got attention.

Even in small families this can be true. I watched my friend struggling to sit both 2 yo twins on her lap the other day. The more demanding, Diva-like girl twin kept screaming and kicking the easy going, quieter boy twin off Mummy's lap. Boy twin got handed to Granny on the basis that he would soon stop crying and accept his fate, whereas Madame Diva would let all hell break loose if mummy dared to choose boy twin over her (and wasn't prepared to share mummy's lap either) so life would be unpleasant for everyone in the room for half an hour if she didn't get her own way.

I'm not blaming my friend. We all take the path of least resistance with our children from time to time, but it's important to recognise when the balance has tipped too far in favour of the squeaky wheel, and sometimes only outsiders are capable of seeing that. I have three, and at times I have had to leave two of them to get on with it, while all of my energies were concentrated on the other one, who has been more labour intensive.

If your life consists of spinning plates and firefighting just to get through each day, you sometimes don't see further than 'they were all fed, half of them got dressed, some teeth were cleaned, no-one needed to go to A&E, phew, that'll do.'

But it's the little inconsistencies and unfairnesses, the bullying that goes unnoticed, the pain or the worry that gets dismissed, these are the things that shape people in later life, and give them their lifelong insecurities and hang ups, even if people don't always consciously know why.

My friend's DD may grow up always expecting to be prioritised, like a hissing pressure cooker that might explode at any minute if you don't drop everything. Whereas her brother may sense that his feelings are not always acknowledged, so he will become very good at suppressing them and will deal quietly with the big stuff on his own. Neither thing is terribly healthy! Work will need to be done to ensure they both turn out well balanced. It's the same with all children in all families.

But this is in a family of two. Imagine that x 4. Eight children with different personalities all vying for the attentions of one or two adults. You may have 8 lots of unlimited love, but you don't have unlimited energy or time or patience. You don't have extra arms, a bigger lap, more hours in your day, more eyes in your head. You don't function perfectly well on less sleep than any other normal human being. You just don't.

In mammals who have large litters there is always a top dog and a runt, if you can forgive the dog analogy for a moment. Then imagine those 8 children don't all have the same father, and some have deep seated issues of rejection or inferiority because of feeling usurped or sidelined to make way for new babies with a man who is not their dad.

Imagine being told you are really talented at athletics and invited to train for county level, but it means going two nights a week to a town 15 miles away and lots of weekend commitment, and mum/dad won't take you because they are too exhausted from just trying to hold it all together at home. Or because they can't spare the time or the expense and it's not fair on the others. Sad Of course this could happen in any family, but it's more likely to happen in large ones.

Imagine being the eldest sibling and being sick enough to need the doctor, but mum doesn't take you because she has no-one to watch the younger seven and she can't face dragging them all out, so you suffer for a day or two longer than is right, or fair.

Imagine being a hormonal teenager who needs privacy to study or just think, and having to share every waking moment of your day with a huge bunch of kids under ten who want to wrestle on your bed and play with the few precious belongings that are actually yours and yours alone.

I don't get on with all my brothers and sisters, but my DC are very different personalities and get on like a house of fire.

I think everyone who has chosen to have a very large family (and by large I mean 5 +) tells themselves that. You need to spin it to justify it. Of course some large families are far happier and more functional than others, I'm not doubting that. Healthy finances will take care of many of the practical issues but not necessarily the psychological or emotional ones.

'I chose to have 6/8/10/15 children in spite of knowing that it might impact negatively on them, financially or psychologically.'

said. no. parent. ever. Hmm

I don't expect anyone with 5 or more children to admit that it's anything other than one big, happy, well oiled machine where everyone's needs are met 100% of the time, round their house.

But their children, upon reflection, may tell a slightly different story in a few years time, as has been borne out by this thread.

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Apparentlychilled · 30/12/2014 06:58

I'm 1 of 5 (the middle one). IME I thinks CheerfulYank may have a point re spacing. The smallest gap is 15 months and the biggest is 20 months and one of my siblings has special needs. There just wasn't enough time or energy to pay attention to any of us individually esp due to my sibling's care needs and as my parents' marriage broke down when I was 12.

I have 3 DC with 5 years between 1st and last, and that's it for me: enough hustle and bustle but without the insane chaos of my childhood.

Interestingly none of my siblings have big families- the biggest is 3.