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July IVF/ICSI/FET

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DeeKel · 23/06/2025 19:10

I didn’t see a thread for July IVF yet. I am due to start stims around 18Jul with estrogen priming starting the week before that. Collection will be the end of July all going well.
This will be my second IVF and I will be using ICSI. I will be 40 during treatment and 41 come collection. I have a child from my first IVF 3 years ago. Since then I had a chemical pregnancy Dec 2024 with my only other embryo from my 2022 cycle and a failed IUI in Feb this year.
I found the discussion board really helpful and supportive in my first IVF round as we all understand the crazy ups and downs of this rollercoaster. Wondering if there are any others with similar timing?

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Miraclemuma03 · 15/08/2025 05:49

So I ended up with a major hormone crash after stopping all meds, huge migraines and body aches, overwhelmed, angry and out of sorts and now I am sick with some sort of a cold or flu and feeling run down, So having a break this month and have a fet cycle starting with my day 1 in September. I one 4aa day 6 embryo on ice. Not sure what the stat's are for day 6 embryos but hopefully the little ball of cells works.

VioIetMoon · 15/08/2025 07:14

@Bloop123 from what I understand dhea is a hormone produced by the glands. It may help improve egg quality in situations where a woman is producing very low amounts usually due low ovarian reserve but its really important that you have a blood test first to ensure its right for you. It's definitely not something you should mess with unless specifically advised as if your levels aren't inadequate your going to create a whole load of new problems. I'm on the opposite side of the scale, i have higher levels as I have pcos . Basically if its not needed you may experience unwanted effects such as facial hair, neck, chest, stomach like us pcos women so I would seek advice before incoperating it. Some clinics prescibe it for women but Its only after its determined they require it

MotherOfShihTzus · 15/08/2025 09:56

@Miraclemuma03 hope you feel better soon - our bodies go through so much!

my transfer was 2 x day 6, BC embryos - my last! Buuut it worked - have hope in those day 6s :) they said to me that they only freeze if they are confident there’s a good chance x

RainbowFluff · 15/08/2025 11:21

@Pinguino24 3 genetically normal embryos is amazing. So happy for you! I think it gives other people hope to hear about the things that work out, it’s important to share good news as well as the challenges.

Pinguino24 · 15/08/2025 14:06

Thanks so much everyone for the kind words. We have our appointment soon to find out about a FET in the next month or so.
Does anyone have any tips about what to do to prepare for a FET? Did you cut alcohol and caffeine in advance etc?

DeeKel · 16/08/2025 03:34

I’ve been spotting for 4 days, bright red color brown & pink too. It never went full flow but I figured that was down to the progesterone & I had contacted my clinic to tell them & ask if I could stop injections but they told me I had to wait until my bloods Tuesday. I was going to stop myself but said I better continue incase they decide to run hormone tests and check if I was low to understand the spotting issue. I had been still peeing on internet cheapies (I think they are called one step) and some clear blue 6 day early tests as I had them so thought why not. Saw nothing on the cheap strips but the last two days saw what I was convinced were indent lines (see pics of 7,8,9dpt). I had one early digital that I just used at exactly day 9.5p5dt tonight and it said pregnant. I’m in shock. I think it is likely a chemical given how faint/non existent the lines are & now I’m worrying about ectopic given the spotting which is nearly stopped but started on Tuesday (the day my period would have been due). All my sore boobs, cramping etc are gone too since mid week so I’m not hopeful but still totally floored by it.

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Miraclemuma03 · 16/08/2025 05:54

@DeeKel this amazing!!! I really hope this little one is just a late implanter . Iv had one that was also a late implanter and also slower then average hcg rising, also bled and spotted all through my early days and also randomly through the pregnancy which was because of a haematoma and that late implanter is 3yr old. I had a day 3 embryo transfer after having a full failed cycle months before plus a miscarriage and one embryo not surviving thaw. I did not get the faintest of lines until 9dp3dt and my husband said he couldnt see it haha at 11dp3dt I tested again and it had gotten darker and hubby could see it but Said it was too faint to be a positive lol so we left it at that and at 14dp3dt my hcg was something like 94.

Waitingforday6 · 16/08/2025 08:09

Fingers so so crossed!! I actually had a feeling you were pregnant despite the spotting but didn't want to be that person 😆 Congratulations!! It can all be absolutely fine so take each day and step at a time. Right now you are pregnant and that's amazing!!!

Hopeandfaith1990 · 16/08/2025 09:01

Hey @Pinguino24 I’ve been prepping for my FET which is next week :) I’m doing a medicated cycle which feels like it started a million years ago but was actually about 5 weeks ago. I started to prep for this transfer by actually seeing what I could add in / keep check of first - eg making sure I eat enough protein, fiber and veggies, making sure I was happy with my supplement plan, adding in my beetroot & pomegranate juice daily (albeit a bit woo woo 🤣) etc.

Weeks 1-2.5 I carried on drinking a bit of alcohol (was on holiday for a week of it) and had 1-2 coffees per day. The past two/three weeks I’ve cut caffeine completely and basically completely cut alcohol. My consultant said ‘do whatever you want just don’t smoke weed’ 🤣. He meant within reason obviously. This might not be the approach for some people but for me it’s been quite balanced and I think it was good for me mentally to see what I could add rather than restricting myself in an extreme way. I obviously won’t be having caffeine or alcohol in the TWW.

Congrats @DeeKel I’m crossing everything for you for a healthy pregnancy and not a chemical or ectopic.

StorkVisit · 16/08/2025 10:22

I cut out chocolate, crisps, sweets and caffeine. I tired to eat lots of protein and also had coconut water. It felt very restrictive and didn’t work this time.
i think I’d be a bit more balanced this time but I’d aim to eat mostly healthily.
@DeeKel really hope this works for you

VioIetMoon · 16/08/2025 10:36

@Pinguino24 on my successful round I did cut out caffeine ect and I tried to eat high protein but I didn't completely limit myself. I did still have a sweet treat daily but I switched to protein bars once I started stims for my sweet fix as there are many low sugar options .I'll b
e honest, I still had carbs like pasta and admittedly chips. To be honest i could have ate way better but it worked so I truly believe diet is only a part and ivf is so stressful and stress isnt good either, so sometimes you need that little something to make you feel good.

I have a question ladies, has anyone experienced high progesterone level on trigger day?

DeeKel · 16/08/2025 22:29

Thanks everyone for your good wishes. I’ve a tiny bit of excitement bubble up every now and then but I stop it as soon as it starts to
protect myself. It’s all just really atypical for me but I know no pregnancy is the same. Sore boobs kicked back in again today and I did a pink dye boots strip test with no questions over the line and it’s not an early one. I’m so invested in everyone’s journeys and will definitely be keeping checked in to see how everyone is going.
@Pinguino24 i cut out caffeine and did acupuncture for my successful FET. This fresh transfer I’ve done absolutely none of that and I have been eating like crap the last few days feeling sorry for myself.
@VioIetMoon I just checked my progesterone on trigger day and it said
<1.59 nmol/L

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StorkVisit · 18/08/2025 07:36

Hi, we have our review with the consultant on Friday. I’m looking forward to hearing from the clinic and finding out what they offer if you’re paying. (Previously we were NHS patients and I only had one scan and no blood tests done during treatment).
id definitely want to go through treatment again but not sure whether to go for 2 cycles, 3 cycles with the option of a 50% refund if it doesn’t result in a live birth. I’m also looking at Greece as an option as all of their treatments are doctor lead.
For those of you who are going on to have more IVF, what’s your plan. (We only got 1 blast so can’t just do a transfer.)
Also, I’m 39 and I’m thinking of doing a double transfer next time if we get two blasts. I’d love to hear people’s thoughts on this.

VioIetMoon · 18/08/2025 11:12

@StorkVisit my first cycle was nhs, we had 2 scans .They advised 1 or 2 monitoring scans and as my amh at the time fell into the high bracket , we had the 2 as they had concerns about ohss. In the end , I didn't respond as expected. We got 2 blasts from 3 fertilised. Ours weren't good quality so they wouldn't have frozen so we did a double transfer. That resulted in our son. Absolutely couldn't not fault our nhs clinic.

My current cycle was private. I had scans ans bloods every other day. My current experience of my private clinic has been a nightmare. They have fell well below my expectations. One clerical error after another. They use email as a form of communication, not a patient portal which even our nhs had and this caused so much confusion. We had no idea of our treatment plan until they informed us 2 days before stims. At which point we couldnt back out as we had already bought the medication and paid for our plan , We couldnt view our treatment plan that they updated scan to scan, numerous spelling errors, telling us wed be back on X date ect , not sending email which resulted in us getting up a 5am only to turn out that were 2 hours early for our scan. I have questioned so many decisions along the way. I never got to see the dr other than intital so you can't even ask the reasoning behind certain decisions. In my nhs round , they stimmed me very low and we got 7 eggs from 12 follicles. In my private round,they stimmed me even LOWER so despite having 30 follicles only 6 responded . My only follicles were within optional range and I was told I would trigger last Monday, when they suddenly emailed me to stim for another few days and almost doubled my dose. This only accelerated my only few follicles that responded and 3 were already 23mm. I was so stressed about over matured eggs and nobody gave an explanation as to why they delayed me as i had no other responding follicles. I I had my retrieval on Friday, and they had my trigger down for a different time than what they told me. Yeah, the whole thing has been a disaster. We spent 10k and the experience hasn't been any better. They didn't even offer refreshments, we were told bring our own snacks after retrieval. We only got 3 eggs this time and 2 fertilised. They won't give us any updates though until 'transfer' day so we've only idea how they are getting on
We can't do a fresh even if we get a blast as my progesterone is apparently very high. No explanation as to why from the dr. I've only found out from asking other lovely women online who explained this can be caused by the stims.

We're planning on another round early next year but we definitely won't be going back to this clinic. We received a warmer reception with the nhs staff. The staff in my private clinic were quite strange.
On the first day i had to poke around in one of the nurses eyes looking for an eyelash and at another tell one of them told me they feel so "bizzare" while in the middle of drawing my blood. Nhs were so down to earth and normal and we always felt comfortable. There wasnt much chat from our private clinic. It was a more professional environment. Well.. lol
It's such a stressful time and you worry so much and you definitely don't want to pick a clinic that further adds to your anxiety.
My advice regarding private , is do your research. We couldnt view the HFEA on our clinic at the time we booked as it just wasn't showing . Only now after completion has hfea updated and we can see our clinic has poor success rates ( I wonder why) the dr told us if we did an fet it would lower success , yet everything I've read seems to suggest fets statistically have a ever so slight advantage compared to fresh.
If something doesn't feel right then don't proceed. I wish we taken the time to explore other clinics. Always go with your gut.

Sorry for the long post.
I'm 39 also and I'd definitely opt for the double again at my age. If i was younger, probably not as your chances are alot higher. I think if we hadn't of last time , we might not have our son.
Obviously you need to consider the risks, are you OK with multiples? As you you could get lucky and both implant.
I couldn't have cared less. We'd been trying since 2004 and i was so desperate for a baby, I'd happily have carried multiples.
There also is the risk that if you miscarried one embryo, it could result in losing both, this is what my current dr told me.
Do you get good quality blasts?
Ours were terrible so it made sense just to fire them both in and hope for the best 😆 they wouldn't have froze them away.

DeeKel · 18/08/2025 11:51

Well girls my hope was short lived and last night I started bleeding heavily and continuing today with stomach pain and the lines on tests looking lighter. Was not meant to be I’m afraid. Right know I don’t even have it in me to think of another transfer and need to decide if I just focus all my attention on the little blessing I already have ❤️

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Waitingforday6 · 18/08/2025 12:27

I'm so sorry @DeeKel ❤️ sending you lots of love

RainbowFluff · 18/08/2025 13:45

@DeeKel So sorry for your news, it must be a blow when it was looking hopeful for a time. I think that anybody who goes through ivf is a hero, whether you do it again or not.

@StorkVisit I had 3 cycles with Create fertility, they were pretty good. I mention them as I know they have clinics around the country. We left because we had 2 cycles with no blasts and they didn’t offer zymot but apparently they are now doing this, frustrating as we only asked them in May so it’s a very recent development. Monitoring starts on day 5 and is then a scan and blood test every other day and all very organised. My main issue was that it’s not easy to speak to a doctor, scans and bloods are done by nurses and then a doctor reviews but the nurse communicates back to you so you can’t really ask questions about why certain things are done. We had one NHS and 2 private cycles, to be honest we felt at first like there were less options with the NHS treatment but when we moved to private nothing really changed. My most recent rounds with ARGC were much more personalised but they only have one clinic so it might not be helpful depending on where you’re based, and it’s very expensive.

Hopeandfaith1990 · 18/08/2025 14:39

DeeKel · 18/08/2025 11:51

Well girls my hope was short lived and last night I started bleeding heavily and continuing today with stomach pain and the lines on tests looking lighter. Was not meant to be I’m afraid. Right know I don’t even have it in me to think of another transfer and need to decide if I just focus all my attention on the little blessing I already have ❤️

So sorry, sending you strength xx

DeeKel · 18/08/2025 15:19

Well after sending my update the clinic got back in touch with me and they said yes this sounds like my period and that ectopic would not give symptoms this early. Then they also said that I could go into another transfer as soon as my bloods come back negative. They can start me from up to date 4 of my period. So after me saying I don’t know if I’ll do another transfer I’m thinking I might get straight back on it and just get this all over with.

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Waitingforday6 · 18/08/2025 15:35

Ah so you now have 4 days to decide whether you want to go ahead in the next couple of weeks? If you feel up for it and the clinic don't have any concerns then why not! Good luck whatever you decide!!!

Miraclemuma03 · 19/08/2025 07:54

@DeeKel im so sorry to read your upsetting news. My clinic also offered me to go straight back into a fet but I asked for a break and if we could start a cycle in september because Im still recovering from the last cycle.

StorkVisit · 19/08/2025 12:32

@RainbowFluff @VioIetMoon thank you so much for your long replies. It’s given me lots to think about.
we had our first cycle with Care. They were good with scheduling appointments, they explained the protocol. I knew what I was supposed to do but it just felt like the treatment wasn’t tailored to me.(it might have been but they didn’t explain what I was doing and why.)
id prefer to have 2 children (twins) than no baby. We only had one baby make it to blast. We got 5 eggs. 1 egg fertilised abnormally, 1 was immature. I was told the embryo was Excellent it was a FB (full blast)12. Think I just need to find out what Care would do differently and why.
Ive got an appointment with a clinic in Greece next week and have my review with Care on Friday

StorkVisit · 19/08/2025 12:33

@DeeKel im so sorry that this cycle didn’t work. It feels like most of us were unlucky this time. I hope next time is your time

DeeKel · 19/08/2025 12:40

@StorkVisit hopefully you have some good discussions and find a place that feels right for you and that will tailor a protocol for you.
@Miraclemuma03 im thinking similar. I keep flip flopping between going straight back into a transfer or not but to be honest I think my body needs time and I still have unresolved clots in my leg so if I had any sense I’d wait until my next period.
I had my bloods this morning and I’m not sure if my beta will be down enough to even go ahead as there is still faint lines on tests today so that will probably make the decision for me as to wait a month. I just hope that the clinic doesn’t ask me to keep on the progesterone injections until my hcg is at a certain level. Hopefully this morning’s one was the last one for a little while anyway.

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VioIetMoon · 19/08/2025 13:54

Do any of you ladies know how soon a withdrawal bleed should occur?
I only had my retrieval on Friday morning and tomorrow is day 5 , with a possible transfer scheduled but 'm having period like cramping and I noticed some spotting. I don't know if that's normal or if I should phone my clinic . Is this a bit early for a bleed ?