Transfer buddies?

[charja100]

Hi everyone. Had my 4th transfer on Monday. Now 4DP5DT and getting antsy! The two week wait is so hard. Any transfer buddies to keep me company? X

@Pep1952

Have you drunk much today? If it was a faint positive, and you have had had a few drinks today, maybe it has just diluted your urine too much to pick it up?

My embryologist was pleasant and professional, but did not use flowery language and spoke honestly, said things like "it was less ideal than we would want to see" and "we are not working with great results", but also went onto say that they were showing potential. While I felt deflated at the time, in hindsight I appreciate it a lot. I feel like I would want to roll my eyes if I heard "it only takes one" from a nurse/doctor/embryologist. I know those comments are meant well, but if I'm asking a professional a question, I want facts/odds to work with, not generic reassuring comments.

@wateringcanface I wish you're right but unfortunately I didn't drink anything in those 3 hours and my urine was dark and quite concentrated! At least though I know trigger can stay in my system up to 12 days. I read of other women seeing it until 14 which is crazy. Xx

@Pep1952

oh, it might have been the trigger then. I still think its 50/50 till you test again over next few days. your kidneys work harder through the day than they do night, even without drinking or eating so that could still make the second wee of the day was not concentrated enough to get a reading.

I entered what I know about the quality of embryo's I have into Chatgpt to ask what the odds are of one of them sticking at it said 35-40%, I know it is not a reliable source, but I was curious 😂

Thanks for your comments @Eagerlywaiting1990, @Pep1952 and @Nic28j it's so hard isn't it. Just takes all your energy.

So this morning another bfn, and then this afternoon I've started to get brown spotting and heavy cramps. Really not too sure what's going on with me at this point. Seems very late at 7dp5dt for it to be implantation bleeding. Feeling like it's AF trying to break through now. Will continue powering through and see what tomorrow morning brings.

@wateringcanface welcome to the thread. Very smart of you to write down the symptoms that you'd had prior to the TWW. I agree with the advice from the others, if you don't think you can make it to OTD and will test early then it's good to test out the trigger so you can be sure that an positive on an early test is not from trigger. I tested out my trigger on this cycle and it only left 3dp5dt.

Love this. I might try the same and see what my odds are 🤣

@Pep1952 My trigger was definitelystill visible at 11:30pm evening of 3dp5dt and potentially early am of 4dp5dt too. Hopefully tomorrow on your test it just gets progressively darker for you and it's your time. 🙏🏼

I'm prepared that tomorrow when I wake up AF might have arrived. It's just so annoying. I'm on cyclogest x 3 and Lubion. I really don't think I should be spotting like this 😣

@charja100 Thanks, I was just chatting to another girl who said her trigger showed until 4-5dpt so seems like it’s actually quite common. I probably will wait until Weds before testing again. I plan to do it every two days (but who am I kidding lol).

Everything is crossed that AF doesn’t come for you (and the rest of us here) tomorrow or any day! Xx

Yeah it’s so hard. I’m only 2dp5dt and I feel like I’m losing my mind, I know it’s way too early for any symptoms. It’s so hard to find the balance between being optimistic and protecting yourself from possible heartbreak.

Sorry I don’t have any better advice for you, just know that we are all wishing you well (and everyone in this thread). I don’t think 7 days is too late for implantation bleeding but obviously you know your body best.

Morning all. Of course I caved in and tested first thing. Definitely the trigger as if yesterday (the one at the top) was the start of something it should be darker now. Oh well! D5p6dt today i know i’m 100% still in but slowly managing my expectations now to protect my already bruised heart! Xx

I would have only been 1dp5dt yesterday and tested by trigger and it came back negative, i thought maybe I did it too late as I did it in evening and I drink quite a lot through the day, did it again this morning and messed the test up and submerged it too much (got distracted by dog pining to go into garden as he has the runs) so the test didn't have a reading - Basically so far testing my trigger has been a failure 😂Going to pop back to shop and get another. I have decided I'm going to test on Saturday which will be 6dp5dt to give me time to lick my wounds before the work week (I know technically it won't mean I'm out, I honestly just think i would find it easier to think this way to manage expectations), so I want to be sure trigger is out of my system by then,

On a plus size - I was admiring my boobs last night; the progesterone is making them look great

@Nic28j seems we are not too far apart on our time frames, my transfer was sunday.

@Pep1952 Maybe try leave it a couple of days between tests? I think there could be other reasons why going of the strength of colour, particularly only one day apart isn't completely reliable.

@wateringcanface My transfer was Saturday so yep just a day apart. I was thinking of testing on Sunday as that would be 8dpt and it’s the only day this week I’m not working so would give me a day to come to terms with whatever. I’m just hoping I start to feel something over the next few days to give me some hope! Trying not to second guess every little twinge is so hard and I think anxiety is also playing a part in the odd cramp!

@wateringcanface lol at admiring your boobs. I have zero symptoms at all. If anything my CM is looking exactly like how it looks a few days before AF. My body is like clockwork in that I could actually predict exactly when AF is due to arrive even before I was on meds. My cycles were very regular and that’s why I never thought we’ll have problems conceiving but here we are.

Yes very sensible to wait until 6dp. Good luck to you and @Nic28j!!

@Nic28j I keep telling myself it would be too soon to feel anything, and even if I do, I'm trying to think of how often I get weird sensations anyway. I don't know about you but most months, especially on the run up to my period or during ovulation, I get twinges, bloated, little aches and pains that are so common they barely even register as a thought. I have felt a few similar sensations, but know realistically, it is likely nothing more than what I would get any other month I am just more aware. I also wrote the list of the symptoms im getting from the progesterone to not get them mixed up either. - Remember, that many people get 0 symptoms, so feeling nothing does not mean much.

Just took another test to check the trigger - it is negative. Seems a bit soon for it to be out of my system, by day 8-9.

You’re so right and I definitely get the same every month but trying to remind myself that and stay level headed about is it tough. I have also read that a lot of women have zero symptoms.
I wish I had made a list of progesterone symptoms too, that’s a really good idea.
I'm not sure on the likelihood of the trigger being out of your system by day 8-9, hopefully someone will have some better knowledge/advice. I think it might depend on the dose though, I had 10,000iu which was 2 vials, I know some only have 1 vial (5,000).

Hi ladies. I was in the office yesterday and it was just a nightmare day so didn't get a chance to update. 8dp5dt yesterday another BFN and last night full flow arrived so that's me out this cycle. 4th failed transfer, not even a chemical this time 😣 clinic have told me to stay on meds except blood thinners. And have said I can bring test day early to Friday 11dp5dt just seems such a water of medication at this point. Absolutely gutted. Had a big cry that it's another chance gone. Really had hope it might be my time with all the changes we'd had to my protocol with immune protocol add ons etc.

Very very fortunate this round to have 6 embryos sent off for PGTA testing. Now waiting on those results to come back and praying for some euploid embryos. Last time we sent 2 off for testing and both came back aneuploid.

My trigger had left my body morning of 4dp5dt this cycle and 2dp5dt last cycle. I had 10000 Gonasi last time. This time I had 10000 zivafert. So I think the medication type can impact too.

@Nic28j not trying to get your hopes up but I do see the starting of a line on your most recent test and it looks darker to me than the prior day. Good luck with your test today! I'd then still test daily but compare tests every two days because you really can't see progression day by day early on.

Good luck with your TWWs ladies. I hope it's as calm and positive for you.

Awww @charja100 I'm so sorry. Absolutely heart broken for you. What a tough journey. Hoping this is the last time you have to go through this and that your PGTA testing gives you good results and ultimately a little baby in your arms. Sending you lots of love xx

@charja100 I’m so sorry - sending you lots of love and best wishes for PGTA results x

Morning, d3p5dt here, tested the trigger again. Even though I was hoping for a negative to show the trigger was gone, I was disappointed to see it. I keep getting waves of optimism, but I feel like I just know it hasn't worked. They seemed so pessimistic and almost morbid about the embryo's they transferred, and I just feel nothing. All my remainder embryos stopped growing overnight on day 5, so I just assume that's what happened to the ones they put back in my body as they were only marginally better quality, so likely had the same fate. Though, I'm trying to channel my pessimism for this round to optimism for the next, I'll have 3 months in between to load myself with vitamins, and I will make sure they retrieve eggs from both my ovaries not just one.

Hi @charja100 i’m so sorry. Good luck with the genetic testing of your frosties. I’ll be thinking of you.
@wateringcanface i think whatever the circumstances are if you are ttc and you see a negative result it will sting (even if you’re just testing the trigger out!).

When i tested on Tues, I was actually quite upset because I was hoping to see an undebatable faint line but I didn’t get it. There’s a little shadow there but I knew in my gut it was the trigger. I cried all evening and so my DH and I decided we won’t test until our OTD tomorrow (8 days post transfer which I thought is quite early compared to other clinics??).

Yesterday d6pt I started spotting, any little breast tenderness I got from the progesterone was gone, and on/off mild cramps too. All these are my textbook pre-AF signs. I emailed my clinic and I was advised to continue with progesterone and test tomorrow. If negative, to keep taking progesterone and test again on Sunday. I was thinking why not have the OTD on Sunday then but anyway..

It’s not over until it’s over and I am still hoping of course but everyday is looking less likely. For some reason I am now ok with not doing early testing (I am usually an addict!!).

I will update you tomorrow. Xx

@Pep1952 That was actually my first pregnancy test I have ever taken; I can tell it is not a process that I will enjoy.

I'm sorry you are feeling disappointed at the moment, you are right that you are not out yet. I did read some reddit posts last night where people did not get their positives till day 8ish. Best of luck with tomorrow x

Im 4dp5dt, Im really trying my best not to read into anything, but I got a quite intense, twingy almost electric shock type feeling in my very lower pelvic area yesterday, and it then carried on twinging for a couple of hours later. I did then go on to get a terrible case of the trots in the evening so it might have been more gastrointestinal, though it did seem a bit too low down to be that. The progesterone apparently makes your bowels lazy, which for most causes' constipation, but for me, it is doing the opposite.

It is so hard not to read into things though, once I felt that shock feeling I was so hyper aware of what I was feeling down there,

Morning all, it’s my OTD and BFN for me as I expected. It’s not my time yet. Good luck to you all still in the game x

@Pep1952 Sorry to hear - I was thinking of you this morning x

Hey. Do you see a line? I had to move around room as could only barely make it out in certain lighting, can't tell if it's just indentation or something

@wateringcanface i can definitely see a line - how many DPT today?

5 😊

Not confident enough with it to share with OH so far