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IVF warriors - the journey continues 2

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Imisscoffee2021 · 21/02/2023 15:24

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KLM25 · 09/05/2023 21:41

@HoneybunieYes I’m actually really glad I had that second scan today as it helped me feel like I was making the right decision to call off the transfer. There was still fluid and the sonographer actually said she thought I should seek advice about my c section scar. She said there was a notch. I’m not sure if she meant a niche? Again - one of those questions you wish you’d asked 🤦‍♀️ It’s so confusing as two doctors at my clinic have looked at it via ultrasound plus probably 3 other different sonographers and I’ve asked about it every time, but she’s the first one to say there could be a defect. I’ve been thinking it for ages and wondering if it explains all the failed transfers over the last year.
Maybe it’s hard to see it unless there’s fluid in it? Plus I’m wondering if the fluid is down to the estrogen as it’s not there on baseline scans 🤷‍♀️

Anyway, the bottom line is, I feel I need to get some answers about it before we go any further. I thought I’d feel much worse today, more miserable, but I think it was just a relief to get over the uncertainty of the last few days and know that we’re moving on for the right reasons.

I’ve got the Skype call with my doctor tomorrow at 10 so I’ll try and ask her the right questions but I’ve asked about the scar before and she always just says it’s only a problem in late pregnancy.
Maybe the hysteroscopy will be able to show if there’s a problem with it. Otherwise I’ve been reading some other threads about this gynaecologist Dr Lower in London who it seems specialises in repairing c section defects but it sounds like that would be mega bucks 🥴 Plus there seem to be a lot of differing opinions on the whole thing.

I just really hope we can get to the bottom of it. I reminded myself today, we’re just so lucky to have our son, just be grateful for him ❤️ Chris says he’s upset that we might have wasted all that money on transfers which would never have worked.

That’s lovely that you had all that time in Singapore. I always felt so at home there. We used to stay near Raffles so used to go to Chijmes a lot for drinks when it was a bit livelier. There was a great band that did covers of everything in a bar at the top of the escalators there. Many a drunken night in there ☺️ x

Honeybunie · 10/05/2023 08:30

@KLM25 aw I’m so glad you now know that you had to call off the transfer and why. It’s good to have a proper reason and not just you having to make a decision based on little facts. And good job you didn’t waste another embryo if there really is an issue. It is upsetting to think the last ones might’ve gone to waste and nobody picked up on it earlier and you always had the feeling there might’ve been something all along. Very annoying. But what can you do. I’m sure everyone along the way gave their best. Maybe the scar becomes more visible with the fluid. Who knows. Even more reason to do the hysteroscopy to do a proper inspection. Was your c section a particularly difficult one or is it common to have issues after a c section anyway? Let’s hope they can do something about it now going forward and you still have three embryos 😊
Yes we stayed next to Chijmes too. We only just discovered it this year. We had our first meal out there after our horrible weekend of not eating. Really liked it there. So expensive tho these days. 17 sing $ for a beer 🤦‍♀️ prices have gone bonkers x

KLM25 · 11/05/2023 10:50

Thanks @Honeybunie, yes you’re spot on, it’s a clear cut decision now so that makes things so much easier. And that’s true, who knows, maybe these things are hard to spot and it’s just the case that it doesn’t always cause a problem.
I had the Skype call with my Prague doctor ystdy and I just thought there was no point going over old ground. She agreed that I should see a specialist before doing any more transfers and she said this kind of thing was very common after a c section, and that my scar wasn’t absolutely out of the ordinary (I’m paraphrasing!).

By all accounts, my c section was pretty standard. It was actually elective so very calm and as far as I know, everything went normally. Of course I now have that niggle - should I have done things that way - but my rationale was that I’m a (very) ‘geriatric mother’ ☺️, I would have had to be induced at 39 weeks anyway, probably on my own to start with (Covid), both of our maternity depts in Nottingham are in special measures, so I felt the chances of an emergency section were high, so I’d rather have a planned one. What’s done is done anyway, it may have just ended up being a very expensive decision 🤦‍♀️

The good news is that I’ve made an appointment with this Mr Lower in London. He seems to be very highly regarded so I feel like it will be worth the money to hopefully get a definitive opinion on it. It’s June 13th so not too long away really, he’s on a/l the first two weeks of June. He’ll do an ultrasound at the appointment so here’s hoping he’ll be able to identify what’s wrong.

Hope things are moving along with you? I think you were waiting to have your meds delivered, I’ve got a feeling that was this week. Always good to have those in hand!
It’s funny actually as I’m not done with the pessaries yet 🤦‍♀️ I’ve got to do 7 days worth to complete this cycle as a ‘probe cycle’. It’s ok as I’m not as worried as I normally would be about whether they’re absorbing properly. Plus I’ve got quite a few boxes of these little 100mg ball things which are a bit of a nightmare, so I can use those ones up. 4 of them up in there in the morning and 4 when I go to bed 😂

That’s so funny that you stayed near Chijmes too. It’s so lovely around there. Our old hotel is attached to Raffles City shopping mall so the amount of times I wandered around there jet lagged up to the eyeballs. There was a place called the Soup Spoon in the food court where I used to get some soup if I had a hangover ☺️ Those were the days. Yes I can imagine the exchange rate is not on our side these days. I dread to think how much a Singapore Sling in the long bar at Raffles costs now ☺️ x

Honeybunie · 12/05/2023 17:45

@KLM25 gosh yeah I never thought of it but you are cutting into the uterus with a c section. Never thought of any issues that might cause. Well I'm sure it's still all possible for you. they just need to figure out how to treat you in the best way given the circumstances. and no you can't be wondering whether you made the right decision back then. This was the right decision for you under your circumstances then and you have a healthy little boy because of it 😃 I really hope this doctor in London and the clinic in Barcelona will be brilliant and help you on your way to another little one 😊
yes I had my meds delivered today so that's exciting. I have my meds appointment Monday morning over the phone. And then i can start with tablets soon after that they said. I hope i can arrange my baseline scan with them on Monday too. I thought work was getting quieter but things just keep popping up so it'd be good to have some dates now to put in the diary! But it's good I'm still super busy, so I don't think about the IVF much yet and time is flying along.
Oh you're still on the pessaries? interesting. gosh that's a lot in one day 😂I only ever took one per day
Yeah we stayed in the same hotel both years on the other side of the green space by Funan shopping centre. Such a great location. been shopping in Raffles city hehe. God tell me about wandering around like a Zombie! It's just awful 😂Last year we arrived in the moring, kept busy all day and even made it up marina sands for cocktails and to watch the sunset. it was amazing. and because of covid at the time, not busy so got the best seats 😍it was a lot busier again this year. I'll try find the soup spoon if we are going again! it's not just the exchange rate. Prices have sky rocketed in singapore even for the local population it's crazy. And i can tell you how much a singapore sling is these days.. Sing$37 plus 10% service charge plus 8% VAT 🙈 so $43.66 😂so £26 ouch 🤕😂madness x

KLM25 · 15/05/2023 14:15

Thanks so much @Honeybunie, yes you just have to make the decisions that feel right at the time I suppose.
Yes I hope so, I’m sure the appointment in London will come around quickly and then we can decide on next steps.
I’ve actually been in touch with another clinic in Greece as well, who seem to be highly rated, I’ve been reading about them on another forum. They also do a free Skype consultation, so we might do that, just to feel like we’ve made a considered decision on a new clinic. Only thing is, they’re in Thessaloniki, which would be a bit trickier to get to than Barcelona.

Hope your meds appointment went well today and you were able to book your baseline scan! That’s exciting to have things moving along again. It’s great to have things organised with dates etc..

Yes I’m having to take 7 days worth of pessaries 😏 It’s just to complete the cycle so my body doesn’t wonder what the hell is going on ☺️ I was supposed to be on 800mg a day, 400mg in the morning, 400g in the evening so I’ve just carried on with that, although I think a lower dose would have done the same job. Hopefully my period will arrive on schedule and I’ll get back into some kind of regular cycle. I’ve been on so much medication since Boxing Day, I’m not quite sure what will happen.

Wow you did really well to stay up all day in Singapore, I can imagine the zombie feelings went through the roof that day ☺️ Love Marina Bay Sands, have been up there a couple of times, such a gorgeous view ❤️ OMG, that is madness, it has to be done though! 🍹 Happy memories x

Honeybunie · 19/05/2023 13:45

@KLM25 Hello 😊How've you been? The Greek clinic sounds interesting! Have you looked into it further or had your consultation? Defo shop around a bit and choose the clinic that feels best for you, considering also travel concerns of course. I guess barcelona would be easier in that respect. but let's see. Are you nearing the end of taking the pessaries now? Hope your body gets back to normal soon after that. Sounds like it's been through a lot!
Yeah our first day in Singapore last year and watching the sunset from marina sands roof was just the best experience even though we were zombies that day. and yes the long bar is such a cool experience. last year we weren't allowed to throw the peanut shells on the floor because of covid, and this year is was full of shells. it's was cool to see. You have probs also been to the atlas bar? I love the building! or smokes and mirrors on the national library roof? what a view over the bay!
yes had my meds app early monday morning and she said i can start my downreg tables straight away yay. we book my baseline scan for 30 may which fits well in my diary too :) if everything goes well i should have the next scan on 9 june and EC on 12. let's see. I had a little scare on monday as the nurse mentioned the travel declaration. i googled zika and indonesia and it showed as a risk country and if so you should not try to conceive or have fertility treatment for 3 months. so i was panicking what to do... i saw us abandoning it already. but i rang the clinic again to ask and they said indonesia was not on their list of risk countries! what a relief! that was a bit of a stressful morning 😅xx

KLM25 · 20/05/2023 14:40

@Honeybunie Hi, I’m good thanks 😊
That’s great news about starting your downreg tablets and having all the dates in the diary! Not long at all, I’m so pleased for you, it’s lovely when things start moving along. How are you feeling about it all?

I finished the estrogen and the pessaries on Wed and my period actually started this morning, as predicted, so I’m quite pleased about that. I just hope now that I get back to some kind of regularish cycle, it’s been months since I’ve been medication free 😂🤦‍♀️

Yes it’s good in a way to feel that we have two potential clinics. I suppose as well, a lot depends on how easy it will be to transport our 3 embryos. I’ve got a feeling that won’t be as straightforward as I’m hoping, but we’ll see I suppose.
We haven’t had a consultation with the one in Greece yet, just a few emails. I thought it might be better to see this doctor in London first and hopefully find out what we’re dealing with.

Yes I can imagine your panic on Monday about Zika. I’d have been the same. Just another thing on the list of things to worry about 🤦‍♀️☺️ I’m glad they were able to reassure you quickly anyway.

Yes I’ve been to the Atlas bar! I wasn’t sure of the name because people at work used to call it the Angel bar - apparently an ‘angel’ used to go up to the top shelves on a wire if someone ordered something in particular, probably champagne I imagine. I’ve only been there the one time, a few years ago. Like you say, the building’s beautiful isn’t it? I haven’t been to Smoke and Mirrors but that sounds fab too. So many brilliant bars there x

Honeybunie · 21/05/2023 13:09

@KLM25 Yes I’m glad that we’ve started now. been five months of waiting really so it’s nice we’re finally here again. I’m feeling good about it and look forward to starting stims and doing it all over again. And curious to see how we’ll do this round. Hopefully get some more embryos out of it and hopefully better quality. Been taking our shed load of supplements for five months now, stopped drinking coffee, tried our best minimising plastic exposure etc. so I’m curious to see if that’ll make a difference. If not, then hopefully it’ll be at least two again. And I’m trying to stay objective and realistic that it might not work again but I know we have time for a few more rounds after if we need as I know that’s what it often takes.

I’m so glad your period has started bang on time. That’s such a good sign your body is working as it should after all the meds. Yes it’ll be so interesting to see what the doctor in London says! It was on 1 June wasn’t it? Not long at all! And yes then you can see which clinic would suit you best and look into the logistics of transporting the embryos 😊

I didn’t know atlas bar is also known as angel bar hehe sounds like a fun thing to happen in there. I just find it so impressive. Like you can’t stop looking at the architecture and decor in awe. Have you ever been to altitude at raffles one? Apparently that used to be the highest roof top bar. We tried to get in last year but you needed a reservation. And this year it had shut damn it x

KLM25 · 27/05/2023 14:25

Thanks @Honeybunie, yes I was relieved when it started. I’ve actually got the appointment in London on June 13th so not next week but not too long away. I’ve been busying myself getting all my notes in order and I typed out an IVF timeline ☺️with all the dates and everything they said about the fluid at various scans. The clinic that we contacted in Greece have asked for lots of info too, so I’ve sent all of that off to them as well. You always feel better when you feel like you’re doing something towards it don’t you?!

It’s been a bit of a stressful week. My Dad’s in hospital with sepsis. He’s 83 and he’s not been right since Nov with 3/4 hospital admissions, but this has been the worst yet. He does seem to be making an improvement over the last couple of days though so we’re keeping everything crossed.

So you’ve got your baseline scan next week 😊 That’s great that it’s come around so quickly. Things will start happening thick and fast after that, fantastic 👍

I had to Google Altitude at Raffles One! No I’ve never been there but it sounds fab. There used to be a cocktail bar at the top of our old hotel, where we used to meet up at the start of the night at one point. It had a fab view and we used to get a discount as we were staying there. I think it’s changed to a restaurant now. New bars are opening up all the time aren’t they, and to be honest I haven’t been to Singapore since before Covid. It was always one of my favourite trips 🥂☀️😊 The Lantern bar at the Fullerton was another favourite haunt for a posh cocktail ☺️ It had a great view of Marina Bay Sands x

Honeybunie · 31/05/2023 15:10

@KLM25 ah 13 June! Not long no. and wow I like how you keep yourself busy! I've been looking back to see what happened when last year so I can predict when things happen this year, so a timeline seems a pretty good idea! and the notes so that you don't forget about anything! great! I'm very sorry to hear about your dad! How's he doing now? Hope he's improved further!

yes you're right things have happened very quickly all of a sudden. Good to be busy. We had a very busy weekend - OH's birthday on Saturday so loads going on and other people's birthday parties to attend, so didn't have time to think much. Baseline scan was yesterday and everything is in order. lining nice and thin at 4mm. 10 follicles on the right, 8 on the left. I think pretty much exactly the same as last time. She wanted me to start stims yesterday with the next scan on 7 June. I did not predict that and I'm pretty sure a nurse on the phone said to me scan on 9 June before. So i have booked in an important task for work on 7 June, so can't go for a scan then. She didn't look very happy, but i said i can't. So we're starting stims today instead with a scan on 9 June (as I planned). had we started yesterday with scan next Wednesday, it would have been a day 9 scan which she would've preferred. now we start today with scan next Friday which means it's a day 10 scan. I think she didn't want me a day longer, maybe because of OHSS? she didn't say. anyway it is what it is, I'm sure it'll be fine. Felt a bit concerning seeing her concerned face lol, but she did agree to it so i'm sure it'll work out. I also think last time i had all my dates on exactly the same weekdays as this time 🤔 maybe it's something to do with when my bleed started.. oh well.
and gosh last week was horrible. I forgot i had my worst side effect with the down regulation. I couldn't sleep at night, or woke up at like 3-4 every night and just couldn't go back to sleep because my heart was racing. So i was tired and in a hell of a mood in the day. super grumpy. poor OH.. horrible tablets. hopefully never again. and i hope menopause won't be like that! lol
Oh yes i forgot about the bar on top of the fullerton. We went there last year. super nice views 😊 x

KLM25 · 04/06/2023 13:46

Thanks@Honeybunie, he’s started to get a little bit better and they’ve moved him to a less intensive ward. He’s still a little bit confused which is not normal for him but they’ve taken out his catheter and he’s been out of bed a bit more. My brother and family are coming over from the States in 2 weeks for a holiday and we’re all supposed to be going to Devon for a week at the end of June so we’re really hoping he’ll be well enough for that.

Really glad to hear that your baseline scan went so well and you’ve been able to get started. That all sounds great. Ah it’s a nightmare with planning and dates isn’t it?! Trying to arrange things around work is one of the toughest things and it shouldn’t have to be. I’m sure it’ll all be fine and like you say, they wouldn’t have agreed to it otherwise. Hope you’re feeling ok on the stimulation drugs and glad the down reg ones are finished with! I was just thinking today, I feel pretty good at the minute and it must be because it’s the first time since Christmas that I’ve not been taking anything. I don’t always recognise how they affect you until afterwards which probably sounds a bit daft!

I had an email from the London consultant’s secretary to say he can’t make the 13th June after all and can we make the 14th instead 😬 Anyway after a little bit of rearranging and Chris taking an a/l day, we’ve sorted it. I suppose it’s only a day later. I’ve also got a Skype appointment with the Greek clinic on the 27th. It was impossible to find a day where we were both available so we’ve had to go for a day when Chris is at work. He always feels like a bit of a spare part anyway ☺️ so he said better sooner than later and he’ll trust my judgement with it all. I’ve had to send them no end of information - I wasn’t sure they’d be happy with the embryology reports I got from Prague re the frozen embryos but they’ve made the appt with the doctor now so that’s a good sign I think. Plus hopefully I’ll know more about my c section scar by then and if I need to have anything done about it.

Hope you’ve had a good weekend - last weekend sounded great - good to keep busy and keep your mind off things! Xx

Honeybunie · 12/06/2023 17:43

Hey @KLM25 how’s your dad now? Hope he’s improving and doing much better again. Only two days until your appt in London. Bet you can’t wait now.
time has just been flying for me. It’s been quite good that I’m still busy in work so I’ve not been thinking about stuff too much. Stims just went alongside my normal life :) OH also had a nose op two weeks ago so we’ve both been enjoying staying in and recuperating. Just had my EC today. Had a scan on Friday and it showed 14 follicles of a good size so was well ready for EC. It went very well today. They collected 17 eggs. 3 more than last time yay. Hope we get more than two embryos this time 🤞🤞 also didn’t cramp after like I did last time. They gave me paracetamol even before the sedation which was good. Just keeping the paracetamol coming for now and hopefully will be all pain free by tomorrow :) and hope no OHSS symptoms this week so we can transfer this Saturday. Lining was 10.6 today so bang on xx

Imisscoffee2021 · 12/06/2023 17:57

@Honeybunie amazing number of eggs! Hope the next 5 days fly by and by and have the best news at the end of them! X

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Honeybunie · 12/06/2023 19:02

Thank you so much @Imisscoffee2021 !! How are you? How’s the pregnancy coming along? Hope you’re all good 😊 xx

Imisscoffee2021 · 12/06/2023 19:35

@Honeybunie I'm good thanks! 35 weeks on Saturday just gone so getting close, can't quite believe it! X

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Honeybunie · 12/06/2023 21:29

@Imisscoffee2021 Omg I can’t believe how quickly this has gone. You’re almost there! Amazing. Hope the last few weeks will go swimmingly 😊 x

Spin101 · 12/06/2023 22:09

Hi ladies, how are you all?

@Imisscoffee2021 time really does fly! You’re due in a few weeks, how exciting!!

@Honeybunie how are you? that’s a great number of eggs 😃 did they do anything differently to last time? I might be recalling incorrectly here, but did you previously have thin lining? If so, 10mm is amazing!!!

KLM25 · 13/06/2023 09:08

@Honeybunie That’s fantastic news all round! Sounds like your EC went perfectly, I’m so glad you’re feeling ok. Amazing lining too ❤️ I can’t believe your transfer is planned for Sat, that seems to have come around so quickly. I suppose you must have started the progesterone now?

Yes we’ve got the appointment tomorrow morning so we’re staying the night in London tonight. I’m really hoping we’ll get some answers, will report back!

My Dad’s getting better, thankyou 😘 He was discharged last Thursday and is recuperating at home. He’s still in a bit of pain and it’s not easy for him getting up and down the stairs but my Mum’s looking after him really well.

@Imisscoffee2021 Wow 35 weeks, I don’t know where the time goes! That’s wonderful and I’m sure you’re getting really excited now. Hope you’re managing to get some sleep in this heatwave 🥵☺️ x

Honeybunie · 13/06/2023 10:00

Hi @Spin101 !! How are you??
The protocol was exactly the same as last time. 300IU Meriofert and then Cetrotide. they didn't change anything as it went very well last time with 14 eggs collected. I was expecting 14 again, so 17 was a nice little surpirse. I just had the update call and all 17 were mature and injected. And this morning 13 have fertilised 😊So last time it was 14 collected, 12 mature, 11 fertilised. So two more than last time fertilised. If the drop off rate stayed the same, we'd still be only looking at around 2, but hopefully this is where the supplements kick in . I'm holding by breath until the day 3 update now though 🙈The embryologist sounded very positive that we should defo be looking at a day 5 transfer on Saturday with the amount we have but you just never know. And yes I had thin lining during the FET attempts! I only just about got to 7mm for my first and last FET! So haven't been responding well to the oestrogen tablets. But during the ICSI process my lining seems to respond very well to stims. Apparently I had 11mm for my last fresh transfer last August. And this time it's nice and thick again. So that'd be ideal for a transfer on Saturday. Fingers crossed 😊
Yes @KLM25 started on the progesterone pessaries last night. It's very interesting they changed their progesterone protocol slightly from last year. For fresh cycles they only give pessaries now, AM and PM, as they found it made no difference whether they gave lubion or pessaries, and lubion being more expensive. But for FET cycles lubion made a difference, so they give lubion AM and pessaries PM for these still.
Glad your dad is better and back at home! bless him. it's just a different story to recover when you're a little older isn't it.
Nice little trip to London for you! Are you doing anything nice this evening? Yes please keep us posted xx

KLM25 · 15/06/2023 09:42

Hi @Honeybunie, hope your week is passing quickly and you’ve been having some positive updates. I’m keeping everything crossed for you 🤞😊

So we had our little trip down to London and it all went well. We actually stayed out near Heathrow as it was much cheaper and then took the Elizabeth line which was really easy. We went out for a curry on Tues night and then had a lovely brunch afterwards yesterday so it felt like a (very) mini break too ☺️

I’m so glad we went to see Mr Lower, I feel in very safe hands with him, we ran through everything and he scanned me. He said that I have a very narrow c section niche, which doesn’t need repairing as it isn’t wide enough. He also said he wouldn’t be worried about the fluid as it can be caused by high levels of estrogen and disappear when the progesterone starts, but he says it would be concerning if it was carrying some bacteria somehow, so he’s recommended I do a mock cycle and the Era/Emma/Alice tests, which are helpful for repeated implantation failure. So that’s going to start with my next period and I’ll have 2 scans with him in the run up, start the progesterone and then have the biopsies. Plus I’ll have blood tests for estrogen and progesterone levels when I have the scans, so I feel really happy that we might gain a lot of information through it. We’re also really pleased that I don’t need my scar repaired as we feel like we’ve saved ourselves quite a bit of money! He seems to be the authority on that so it’s good to know we have an opinion we can trust.

He suggested we get the ball rolling with transporting our embryos so I’m going to send all the information to both clinics and see which one is more helpful with a firm answer. I’ve got that online consultation with New Life in Greece in about 10 days and I’ve already sent them the embryology reports that they requested. Institut Marques have been a bit more vague regarding receiving the embryos although the doctor we spoke to has been quick to reply to emails and actually suggested the same biopsies as Mr Lower.

Oh and he also suggested something called Canesflor which are probiotics, so we’ve ordered those and they’re supposed to be arriving today.

I’m still concerned about a couple of things - first of all, when my period will actually arrive ☺️ When he scanned me, he said it should arrive in a few days but as we know, these things don’t always go to plan! We’re going to Devon for a week with all my family on the 30th. I suppose worst case scenario, I could get the train to London for a scan if it fell during that time, they can delay the actual testing by keeping me on estrogen for longer. Plus I’m a bit concerned about juggling 2 different medical opinions if you see what I mean! The mock cycle is supposed to replicate the real potential cycle so I don’t want the doctors in Spain/Greece to think we’re telling them how to treat me, if you know what I mean 🤦‍♀️☺️ We’ll see anyway, I’m sure things will become clearer over the coming weeks.

Sorry it’s a saga! Hope all’s ok with you and everything is progressing as it should ❤️🤞 x

Spin101 · 15/06/2023 17:37

Hi @Honeybunie I’m ok thank you. I had a cancelled FET cycle last month. They did mild stimulations with the hope of 1-2 enlarged follicles. I over responded and my lining still didn’t thicken up.
Those are great numbers! Fingers crossed for some embryos for you!! x

Spin101 · 15/06/2023 17:47

@KLM25 how are you doing?

There’s a thread I’m on re: EMMA/ALICE/ERA. They talk about probiotics and prebiotics too which I still need to understand. Let me know if you want me to share it

I had someone mention both of those overseas clinics you mentioned. I hope your decision isn’t too difficult to make! I think overseas clinics will understand doing a mock cycle.

KLM25 · 16/06/2023 14:44

Hi @Spin101 👋
Ah thanks for that, yes I have dipped into that thread a little bit and read a few things, I hadn’t realised you were on there. There’s a lot to take in isn’t there?! I’m not sure what all the terms mean!
I might join in once I know what’s happening with my testing. I’m just waiting for confirmation on which medication to take for the mock cycle. Never an easy wait when it’s Friday afternoon and you’re expecting your period any day now 😏

Brilliant - that’s reassuring - yes I think it might come down whichever clinic accepts the embryos quicker. It sounds like they’re both pretty good. I’m just itching to get on with things now. I suppose I’ll get a good/bad feeling from the online consultation too.

Hope you’re ok. I’m really sorry to hear about your cancelled FET. It’s so frustrating isn’t it. Hope you get some more positive news soon x

KLM25 · 19/06/2023 07:12

Hi @Honeybunie just to say, I hope everything went ok this weekend, I’m thinking about you and sending lots of positive thoughts ❤️

I’m back on the estrogen as my period started on Sat. We’re going to Devon a week on Fri for a family holiday, my brother is over from the US. I’m supposed to be having the scans before that and the Emma/Era/Alice afterwards. It might be a bit of a juggle but I keep telling myself it’s good to get it done sooner rather than later x

Honeybunie · 19/06/2023 09:29

Hi @KLM25 thank you for thinking of me ❤there's been a lot going on over the weekend. so on our day 3 we had 10 left, which was really great and positive. So i was pretty hopeful we'd have a few more than last time. They booked us in for the transfer on Saturday morning at 9.30, so first one of the day. the first news was that there was only one that had made it to the early blast stage and was okay enough to transfer (3BC). So that was quite disappointing news. They were three more that they wanted to observe until Sunday to see if they developed. Apparently they all developed relatively slowly. So i was very disappointed and couldn't really appreciate that we had one put back. i was very upset that day, and worried the other three would not make it. Last cycle we had two on day 5, a 4BB and 5BC. So it seemed like this cycle was worse. On Sunday i had the update that they froze two, a 3CB and 5CC. Not the best grades either, but i guess they must know what they're doing. So overall i didn't have a good weekend. I guess i got my hopes and expectations up and was then disappointed. I've just digested all the news and try to move on.
About the mock cycle, I also would not worry if you step on anyone's toes. This is about you and the best way forward for you, and not how anyone else feels.

I'm so glad you had positive news from the doctor and a great plan to move forward. Glad your scar is okay! The mock cycle sounds like such a good idea! I hope it'll bring you loads of useful answers. And it's started already! Great to be moving on and doing something :) I'm sure you'll manage to juggle the holiday and scans. I would do the same. I take it your family know all about your IVF efforts? What is the Canesflor for? Is that in case there is bacteria? X

Hi @Spin101 so sorry to hear about your cancelled FET! So they put you on stims for it as well as oestrogen? Do you know what they're planning to try next for you? X