IVF/FET May/June 2022

[Coops0406]

Hi,

I'm just starting this thread as i've kept joining previous ones in hope that I would be at the same time but got left behind with the ups and downs of ivf.
After 3 cycles, 2 failed fresh transfers, PGT-A testing to give us 3 euploid embryos and just now getting our results from the ALICE/EMMA/ERA tests, I am now finally in a position to hopefully start FET on my next cycle with a transfer likely to be end of May or early June!! 😍. Would love to have people to chat to who are following a similar timeline.

@Coops0406 Mine haven’t been pgt tested no. My clinic only says that even euploid embryos might not stick, so having the test done would only be to check if you have an egg quality issue (or if you have a lot of embryos and you don’t want to transfer say, 8, if you could find out 5 of them wouldn’t work in advance). Basically it’s to find the embryos that won’t work, not the ones that definitely will, is what I’ve been told.
the thing about fully hatched embryos not having as good of an implantation rate is only something I read in that study I’m sure you found as well. I’m not sure how true that is. Regardless I hope your transfer works, but again it might just not work, because transfers don’t always (despite the fact that these forums seem to have a very high success rate)

@BlueSilver23 trusting the clinic’s timing is difficult isn’t it? I am constantly second guessing their choices based on what I read online, part of me thinks I should just stop reading things but the more unsuccessful tries I have, the more I wonder if they even take much care to get it right or just base things on statistics.

@BlueSilver23 happy trigger day! Do you have the time for Sunday yet?

@Reefy good luck today! Hope you get a nice sleep and fingercross for loads of mature eggs! 🤞looking forward your news later today.

@Coops0406 I am so sorry that you're feeling down. Tww is not easy, none of us dreamt about it when we started ttc. It's a limbo, and its hard. I'm praying for a miracle for you too. 🙏

@LT103 I really don't understand that. Having negatives then positives in days...sorry that you have to go through on this rollercoaster.

@Coops0406 and @LT103 Sorry you are both having such a tough time. I’m still hoping for a good outcome on OTD for you both but understand we all have to be realistic in this brutal process. 🍀

@SamTTC Sorry to hear everything you’ve been going through, hopefully this next cycle will be the one! Yes, it’s hard to completely trust them and let go of control!

@Dobcaty They will ring tonight with the trigger time. They do seem to like leaving it until the last minute!

@Reefy Sending lots of luck for your EC today. Hope it all goes well!

Thank you all. I'm ready to go!

@Reefy hope it goes well!!!!

Got 6 eggs but not sure yet how many are mature. Feel a bit disappointed with the numbers today as last few had 12/13. I know it only takes 1 but I'm already panicking about how many will fertilise. Also had my Mum text me saying my OH went there while I was having EC & he was crying & upset but he doesn't tell me any of this, I always ask if he is ok & kept asking last night when he was quiet so now I feel even more shit! Literally sitting in recovery now & can't stop crying. Fuck infertility is so shit! Sorry for my rant!

Fingers crossed @Reefy thatbthey are 6 perfect eggs!!!!!!

@Reefy Oh no I'm so sorry that you are upset and that you have to have that on top of your already taxing recovery. I hope you and your oh get a chance to talk things through today.
I completely know what you mean about feeling disappointed even though 6 eggs is a perfectly fine amount. How many eggs fertilised in your last collections? Because sometimes less eggs retrieved means they are better quality. I had 5 eggs out and they all fertilised, with 3 making it to good quality blastocysts. This time I'm on a higher stim dose which might mean more eggs but not necessarily more blasts, you know?

@Reefy Sorry to hear you’re feeling rubbish, but 6 eggs is still good! And hopefully that means you got good quality eggs too. And that was slightly insensitive of your mother to tell you that right now, she probably didn’t think! I’m sure your OH is fine, he’s allowed to feel a little upset that his wife is undergoing a procedure. It’s natural.

hoping you have a smooth recovery and a happy phone call for the numbers of mature eggs/fertilisations!

The clinic just called & said it was 7 collected so not sure what happened there. They said they don't know yet how many are mature tho. Yeah she didn't mean it in that way she just wanted me to know that he was upset & I think I was upset with the amount so it just made me worse knowing he was upset too. He told me when he collected me it was the nurse who upset him then I think he just broke down when got away from the clinic. I know it's silly but the nurse said to him welcome back & he said to her you shouldn't really say that as it's not the sort of place you want to keep coming back too. Sometimes emotions stayed bottled up then when that trigger comes it just all comes out. We've talked & all is ok.

@SamTTC I think it's cos I'm comparing to my other collections which I know I shouldn't but yes let's hope less means better quality.
1st cycle 9 collected 6 fertilised
2nd cycle 13 collected I can't quite remember but I think maybe 9 fertilised
3rd cycle 12 collected 5 fertilised

@Reefy I'm so sorry to hear you and your OH have been upset today 😢 it's a highly emotional and stressful time and it's such a shame your poor OH had to have a comment like that from a nurse. Glad all is ok, sending love. Great news on your 7 eggs, I understand it can be disappointing if you had more on other rounds but I really hope that they are all mature and you've some really good fertilisation 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

@LT103 oh I'm so sad that your test is lighter today, I was really really hoping for you things were going to come out good. Such a hard rubbish journey this infertility can be. Be kind to yourself this weekend and don't feel bad for having hope, we have to have hope x

@Coops0406 I'm sorry still testing negative 😔 and that the tww has been a tough one. Stay strong and it's not the end yet x

@SamTTC don't ever feel embarrassed for posting or saying anything, this is what we are here for. I'm so sorry your recent transfer ended in a BFN 😢 everything crossed for this cycle. Have you started stims?

@LT103 I missed the post about the test turning lighter, I'm sorry. This is a frustrating process, really really hoping the doctors will be able to give you a clear answer soon.

@Reefy I completely understand the disappointment (and sometimes reassurances don't help, I know - we still can't help it though can we?). I'm already disappointed my antral follicle count is lower this time than last time and imagining it'll be a bad outcome...there is just endless amounts of stress and letdowns in this process isn't there?

@HJen22 thanks for saying that!! yes had my first Bemfola shot last night, about to take my second. I didn't feel any effects during my first round, but I'm on almost double the dose this time, and I did feel sluggish and a little nauseous today, hoping it was just an initial reaction 😐what stims are you taking?

@Reefy sending you big hugs. From what I've seen on here there has been better quality with less eggs so fingers crossed this is what happens for you too. When do you get your update? I hope your OH is okay. I said to my OH yesterday that I felt bad for him as it seems to be all about how I feel and whether I want to test...I kind of forgot to even ask him what he thought and how he felt seeing these negative tests. It's got to be hard for them too, especially seeing the struggle we're going through.

@SamTTC we did the testing to get rid of the ones that definitely wouldn't work. Then after the Alice/Emma/era tests they literally said we've done all we can and we're so positive about these euploids...and it turns out that 2 out of the 3 were fully hatched so very unlikely to work anyway! 🤦🏾‍♀️ It all just feels like you throw everything at it and it's still not enough, even with a decent egg reserve!

@LT103 when do you next go to see them? I'm still BFN on day 9 so I'm definitely out...but only today and tomorrow for meds then once I do the test on Monday I can stop it all. Seems stupid getting myself up and having to do an injection every morning and take all these tablets when you know!

@HJen22 how are you doing with your injections? You're doing amazing! I still haven't even done one and I know I would be a mess if I had to. I hope you are slowly getting more comfortable with it all.

@BlueSilver23 I'm definitely a realist. I was texting my mum telling her that I wasn't being pessimistic, just realistic. To think there's still hope now would just be complete false hope.
Is EC for you tomorrow? Did you do your trigger last night?

@Dobcaty thank you! A miracle is what I need! Have you tested again yet or waiting until Monday now?

@Coops0406 sorry you’re still getting a negative. This whole thing is just so unfair at times. I find out on Monday but will get call halfway through my work day so yeah fun!
todays test is somehow much darker than yesterday but I think still sl lighter than the day before so regardless of which test is wrong theres still no progression and it doesn’t change things. Stopping testing now and will see what Monday brings

@Coops0406 they will call this morning but I've just seen my app for the clinic go off & I have a transfer booked for Monday afternoon so not looking great!
Yes he says he is ok but your right we do forget about them.
To be honest they nurses are usually really good but the one looking after me when I came round yesterday asked me if I had children?! (she just helps out there she works in another hospital doing mental health so should know better)

They just called & out of the 7 collected 6 were mature but I'm absolutely devastated that only 1 has fertilised & isn't great so I doubt will make it to transfer this time 🥲

@Reefy oh no I’m so sorry. That is devastating. Make sure you ask them if there might be any reason this collection yielded such a different result from the others. Hoping for that last egg to make it x

@LT103 oh my goodness I’m sorry you’re experiencing such uncertainty. and yes I think it’s a good idea to stop testing at home. It doesn’t sound like the colour progression is actually giving you an accurate answer at this stage? I don’t think hcg levels fluctuate.

@SamTTC yes I will do. I just don't understand it. I mean I was on the same meds, same vitamins. The only other thing is I turned 36 from my last cycle in February but can it really make that much difference?!

@Coops0406 Yes triggered last night 👍 so we’ll see how tomorrow goes. Not going in until quite late in the day.

@Reefy So there was 1 fertilised? Keeping everything crossed for you that it’s the one! You can never tell how a cycle is going to go, I’m on higher meds this time but not sure it was worth it. We’ll see. It’s all so down to chance it seems.

@Reefy I’m so so sorry!!! Got everything crossed for this little embryo! You know the saying…..it only takes one!! I really hope it’s true in your case!!

@BlueSilver23 good luck on collection tomorrow!!

im having a complete head. I stupidly tested again this morning which I shouldn’t have and my test was much darker than yesterday. But still I’d say prob just same as 2 days ago which means no progression. So I have no idea what’s happening. I have to just assume it’s a chemical as nurse guessed and that yesterdays test was faulty and hcg just taking time to leave urine as it can take up to a week. Roll on Monday I just need to know either way

@Reefy so sorry, this is not nice to hear after such a rubbish day yesterday. I really hope this one goes all the way for you. Do you get regular updates or do you have to wait now until day 5?

@LT103 bring on Monday, it must be so hard for you. I do understand why they say to wait but we see so many progressive tests from everyone else that I guess we just want ours to be the same. I can't imagine what it feels like for you with these lines, must just be so confusing.

@Reefy sometimes I do wonder what goes through some people's heads! I had friends over for a couple of days and she was telling me about all these people who were pregnant and their baby shower gifts, while she knew I was on meds! And for nurses to ask questions like that when you're going for EC 🤦🏾‍♀️

@BlueSilver23 how are you feeling? Hope all goes okay for you tomorrow!

Morning girls,

@Reefy I am so sorry, that little one definitely a fighter, keeping everything cross for you

@LT103 I'm still praying for you, but nothing you can do at the moment, I know its easier to say than done, but try to relax. Sending big hug for you.

@Coops0406 I was in your position with my first cycle, I needed to do the progesterone even I was on my period before OTD. Didn't understand.
Yes I tested yesterday but somewhere in the middle of the day, and the line is there. I wanted to do another one this morning, but DH hide the test out of the box so I had no chance. He said I cannot do anything whatever the result would be today. I'm craving to do a test so agreed we do one tomorrow morning (I have no chance to buy today another one as I'm working all day). I have no symptoms what so ever, only I lost my appetite, standing front of the fridge for hours.

@BlueSilver23 enjoy your injection free day! What time is your EC tomorrow?

Thank you all 🤞🙏🏻❤️

@Coops0406 no that's it till Monday now. So annoying as I've always had bleeding before OTD but had to continue till 2 days after OTD on meds.
Oh I know it's so annoying like why don't they think. My OH said I should of said I already have 10 by 10 different Dads then see what she said 😂😂.

@Dobcaty I hope it is a fighter ❤️

@LT103 sorry it's messing with your head again! Why is this such a head fuck?!

@SamTTC yes I hope it is the one 🤞🙏🏻❤️

@BlueSilver23 enjoy the injection free day!

@HJen22 hope you are finding stims ok still

Feeling a bit downhearted as there aren’t many follicles of the right size on the last scan, especially compared to the last cycle I think. really not holding out much hope and feeling a bit disappointed . Then again the trigger always makes you feel sad doesn’t it? EC isn’t until the afternoon. Then I have the fun of finding my way out of London with the damn parade and all the road closures 🙄

@SamTTC I'm on 300 menopur and started cetrotide today! The same as last time as that's the max my clinic does. How are you feeling today?

@Coops0406 im guilty of forgetting a little about my OHs feelings too, so unintentionally but I think I just get so wrapped up in own worries. How is yours doing? Just got to be there for each other. I think us females are more open with our feelings.

Aw thanks so much, don't feel like I'm doing great 😂 I'm bruised and had none last time. It was a stress tonight trying to do it whilst my step daughter was wandering about! It's been a huge added pressure and rush. We had to add in cetrotide and I wanted to take my time since my OH isn't here to supervise tomorrow! But it was a complete flap and hurt and just overall not great!!

I really do hope that you get that BFP on Monday ❤️🙏🏻

@Reefy I'm so sorry for your update 😢 as the others have said, it does only take one. I have everything crossed that fertilised egg is a strong wee fighter and will be transferred on Monday nice and snuggled in.

@LT103 what an awfully difficult and confusing few days you've had. Monday can't come quick enough for you I'm sure. The waiting must be painful. It really does seem that nothing is simple or easy in any part of this journey; which just hurts 😔

@BlueSilver23 congrats on trigger and I hope you're enjoying your injection free day. I'm sorry the follicles on the right aren't as you'd hoped; but you never know what they will get when you go to EC. Let yourself feel sad; it's totally normal and it's a worrying time leading up to EC, but don't lose hope. Xx