IVF Scotland - thread 4

[2mumlife]

Hi everyone,

Started a new thread for the Scotish ladies

@LouScot
@Scirocco
@MrsTMcB
@florafoxtro
@Hopewishprayer
@ScottishRach
@Kamiros
@LT103
@itsmschanandlerbong
@connal

Please @ anyone I missed!

@HJen22 I find the waiting the hardest bit. You get a high off the good news and then when it gets nearer to the next call all nervous again. Very hard but just try to take it as it comes.

@Kamiros yeah it's just one wait after another isn't it. Spending the day in bed with my laptop and I have a counselling call at 11am which is great timing. Do I have a lot to fill her in on or what 😂

@HJen22 that’s great news. So happy for you

@Kamiros Congratulations on the transfer! Hope you're resting up now. This one is a fighter 🤞

@HJen22 That's great news your egg has fertilised. Go egg go! Hope you found the counselling appointment useful

@kamiros congratulations on your transfer! fingers crossed this wee one is the one. You've inspired me to try the herbal medicine - Marco's anecdotal story about someone on another clinic with poor egg quality after had really put me off but it seems the opposite is true in everything else I hear.

@HJen22 good news on the fertilisation! Very much hoping the one egg brings you and kamiros success x

Thanks @2mumlife, @LouScot It was a really quick and easy transfer - under 5 mins. I'm hoping that's a good sign.

@LouScot I hasn't heard that story, it's always a risk, I end up going with my gut on most things. Worth saying I transferred a B grade today and last years one was an A. Equally it was an A that didn't stick so I don't put too much in grading.

@Kamiros glad it was an easy transfer, fingers crossed

@Kamiros congratulations on your transfer, sending all the positive vibes, this one is a strong fighter! Glad to hear it went well and I hope you're resting with your feet up x

@2mumlife @LouScot thank you lovely ladies! I hope this one wee egg is a strong and growing one. I kinda just want it safe and in the freezer! Counselling was good, I really find it so helpful speaking to her, and she's so supportive and we manage to have some laughs too. I'd spoke about my fear of EC the other week and she was like oh so many people don't remember, feel no pain etc and I said what about those who do find it painful; you're not telling me no one says that 😂 told her today I can confirm I did feel that needle haha xx

@Kamiros hope the transfer went well, time to put your feet up next wee while, hoping that 2WW goes in quickly for you!

@HJen22 that’s fantastic news, fingers crossed for your next update x

@Hopewishprayer Thank you. How are you doing?

@HJen22 Any update on your wee embryo?

@Kamiros @LouScot I wouldn't worry about grades. We have a 5AA fresh transfer that came to nothing but a big bleed 4 days later, and a 4AA frozen that ended in a chemical, so looks aren't everything. My current pregnancy was a 5AA before freezing, but was graded B at transfer so must have declined during the thaw, but seems to be doing fine!

@2mumlife thanks so much for asking ❤️

I've had an eventful morning. Embryologist called first thing and said that the embryo wasn't as good as they'd like, some red flags etc but they'd keep an eye and call again tomorrow. Our Dr from EC then called and said he'd spoken to the main consultant who said it was best we prepare for a fresh transfer to just get it back in for the best chance. I had to stop him and say I'd just spoken to embryologist and it wasn't looking that great. The Dr hadn't realised I'd heard back so early, this was all first thing! The Dr said he'd speak to embryologist and call me back. He called me back and we're planning for a possible fresh transfer, he said my progesterone will still be high and I went to collect the pessaries. My understanding is that as long as the embryo doesn't get worse and stop growing, it's a possibility. It may not be the best quality but it's now thought to be better back in me. Only time will tell. I've went from just wanting the call today to say it was doing good and going into the freezer to now possibly doing a fresh transfer this week. What a mind f* like you can't write this stuff!!!!!

@HJen22, argh, that is frustrating for you. I forget, the reason you were wanting a frozen transfer was it to do with your lining? How are you feeling about the possibility of a fresh transfer this week? Hopefully it'll all work out fine xx

@LouScot so the Dr said my lining was too thin when they did EC so had to be freeze. He hasn't mentioned my lining now but just spoke about my progesterone levels!

I'm trying not to think too much into it because the embryo has to be ok tomorrow. Which I really hope it is. I'd only just gotten my head around frozen when it was initially fresh. What I've learned is that things change so quickly I need to just wait and see. I really do feel like the Drs are trying to do the best for us and our embryo and that gives me some comfort xx

@HJen22 Oh I'm sorry, that's a bit of a nightmare for you again today. If its good enough to transfer then there's always a chance. Thinking of you.

@Kamiros thank you, the journey continues to have bumps! I'm a little concerned given he was adamant my lining was too thin at EC but I'll just trust them. An embryo back in is more chance than no embryo and a full cycle at least.

How are you feeling? Xx

@HJen22 I'm ok, very crampy. It worries me even though I know its expected with the hormones. Just been trying to get caught back up with work today which is a good distraction.

@Kamiros hopefully it's your wee embryo making itself comfy! How are you feeling now? Can the cyclogest progesterone pessaries cause stomach cramps? I'm having some bad cramps right now x

@HJen22 I've never had the progesterone - they don't give it on flare protocol, so I'm not sure, I would think so though.

@Kamiros ah I see sorry! I'm terrible for remembering there are so many different medications and protocols! I figure it's that since it's new today, hot water bottle is helping a little

@HJen22 whenever I've had Norethisterone (before a cycle or else to delay period) before I've had really bad cramps - think it's a known side effect so it'd make sense that the progesterone pessaries have a similar effect in some people. Hope it's not too bad.

@HJen22 Oh love, you're having a right time of things aren't you? It sounds like they are doing they're best to give you a chance. All embryos degrade a bit with being frozen, so they'll be weighing things up carefully. Hopefully you get a call this morning that you can head in for transfer. After that, there is no point worrying about everything else, just try to stay optimistic. Progesterone causes cramp, and constipation for lots of people (though TMI cyclogest gave me the shits). Also, your body is physically recovering from EC which can cause cramps and digestive issues too. Really try not to symptom spot - in my experience there were no differences in how I felt during the TWW between BFN rounds, chemical pregnancy round and my BFP round. Just try to relax as best as you can, and my advise is don't test early, as it never helps x

@2mumlife thank you. I slept better last night but yeah, it was the shits I had haha! I thought it was just bad cramps until I realised it was the rushing to the toilet type cramps! Agony but luckily it settled and the night time pessary didn't do anything (yet!). I've woken so anxious but I'm really trying to just think if it's not good news today; it wasn't meant to be and was never going to work. It's hard to keep reminding myself that but I'm trying. You become so invested don't you. Have done some meditation and away to shower. I've been lazy and not done my turn of morning dog walking again but I just don't have the energy and my OH doesn't mind.

Thank you that's really good advice, I hope if I get to that point I can use it! I def have said I'd not test early because I know how much stress people can have with lines a bit early on. Xx

@HJen22 Thinking of you today. Also you're definitely not lazy, you've been through a lot and it's ok to take it easy.

Sad news, our wee embryo hasn't grown any. The embryologist said it would take a miracle but they'll keep an eye and I'll get another call on Sunday. He said the consultant said to tell me to keep taking pessaries and to reassure me this didn't class as one of our funded rounds.

I am trying to hold on to that it wasn't meant to be this time. Every step further we got gave me hope. The nightmare of the weekend prepared me mentally and has made me stronger I think. I also know so many of you ladies go through hard times and numerous rounds and I am not alone. Our time will come x