Infertility investigations/IVF in Scotland - thread 3

[itsmschanandlerbong]

A thread for those of us undergoing infertility investigations or treatment in Scotland.

Thread 1 - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/3742246-infertility-investigations-ivf-in-scotland

Thread 2 - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/4138992-Infertility-investigations-IVF-in-Scotland-thread-2

@GemmTryTTC Totally understandable though, it's just so hard. I had a meltdown this morning and told DH I'm done with my own eggs if this cycle doesn't work. Not sure how much I mean it but either way not totally reasonable mid cycle.

@Kamiros Yes, it's a very hard process, all the wait, hope, trying to stay hopeful and realistic at the same time, things going not well, and then yes, and then no.. pffff difficult!

So my bloods came back pretty rubbish so I've not to go back in until Friday to see if they'll grow. They've said there's a fair chance we might end up cancelling though so that's not so great.

@Kamiros I’m so sorry!fingers crossed your cycle doesn’t get cancelled! 🤞

@GemmTryTTC Thank you, Friday feels a long wait. DH is being overly optimistic and as much as I love him, I kind of want to punch him 😂. My amh was 0.3 a year ago and I haven't ovulated since before my last ivf in April so there really is a chance they're all gone. If it is cancelled I feel like it might be time to think about a donor, he wants to keep trying.

@Kamiros Sorry to hear bloods aren't looking great. Keep you head on this cycle for now until you know what's what, plenty time for you and DP to decide next steps if and when it comes to that

@GemmTryTTC The longer you can resist testing the better I say now after my own experiences early testing - it never makes you feel better

I'm feeling a bit wobbly myself today. We did trigger last night and was feeling very tender this morning, had a chilled accupuncture session and nice lunch. Went for a gentle walk with DP and 3/4 of way round had quite intense stabbing pains that went away quite quickly. Really worried my larger follicles have ruptured, and really paranoid about it all now as I'm not feeling nearly the same lower abdomen feelings as this morning and last couple of days.... Now even more nervous about egg collection tomorrow afternoon

@2mumlife I had some cramps while on stims (mild as I never stimmed a lot), so specially if you’ve triggered might be normal! Fingers crossed for you 🤞
I am quite happy not testing at the minute to be honest, I am partially enjoying being in limbo, although I’m also very curious to know the outcome. I’m not sure if we’ll change our minds, but might test Saturday when my period would be due or Sunday so we can process before work. Monday we have bloods.

@GemmTryTTC Has none of these feelings first disappointing cycle, so I'm not sure what's "normal", pain on walk though was proper intense stabbing though, and they've let some of my follicules grow a lot larger than typical because we got so few eggs from follicules last time so they've pushed me for longer, just hoping I've not been pushed off at the other end...

@Kamiros I'm so sorry to hear this, this is such a rollercoaster and there's big parts of it that fucking suck.

@GemmTryTTC you have great self control 😁 it makes zero sense to test early, it just increases your anxiety.

@2mumlife I know it's easy for me to say but try and not let your mind run away with what ifs. During this process we are super sensitive to what are bodies are doing but I sometimes felt like I was too sensitive and over thought twinges, cramps etc that otherwise I might have barely noticed. Best of luck for tomorrow!

@itsmschanandlerbong Yeah, this wasn't a twinge. I guess we'll just see.

@2mumlife Best of luck for today x

@Kamiros how are you feeling today? Not wanting to risk a punch like your dh but hopefully it's quality over quantity.

@2mumlife lots of luck for today, hope it all goes well.

Thanks ladies. Got a few hours until we need to go in as having an afternooon collection. So hungrily watching rubbish TV this morning until we need to go

@LouScot 😂😂 Thanks, I'm much more upbeat today. I know, poor man but he's eternally optimistic even in situations where all the evidence is to the contrary and he really crashes when things go wrong. He really thinks we can just will it into working. I'm different where I need to know the next plan, to protect myself a little when things don't go right.

I'm thinking that there's no reason we won't get one follicle to make it to collection. We only got 1 egg last time and it made a great blast- which isn't guaranteed with any number so I'm hoping you're right.

@2mumlife I was afternoon last time, remember being so hungry. First thing I asked when I came round was could I eat yet.

Congratulations @itsmschanandlerbong. Delighted for you.

Sorry to hear things aren’t going great @Kamiros. But it absolutely is quality. I hope you’re ok. This whole process sucks.

I’m on schedule with you @GemmTryTTC. FET was last Thursday, been ok thus far as we had a really hectic weekend but starting to feel really anxious now. The idea of testing actually makes me want to be sick.

Hope all goes ok this afternoon @2mumlife!

@2mumlife Good luck! Fingers crossed!
@florafoxtrot Good luck to you too :) I'm also ok not testing to be honest, it's scary to know the outcome hah Trying to stay distracted!

@Kamiros I'm like you, I want to know the plan, and always protecting myself now after lots of disappointments.

Thanks for all the well wishes. Just heading home now. We were first on list this afternoon which was good so not nearly as much waiting around as last time. Far less sore than last time too. We had an ok collection. We got 6 eggs which is still less than we should have - consultant said there were 8 follicules today that they should have been able to get eggs from, and 2 follicules which were too large now. Had Mario doing both egg collections and he's been a bit disappointed both times - for whatever reason, both times some of my eggs just don't detach from the follicule wall. He's convinced there are eggs in there just that we can't get them. 6 is still better than the 4 we got last time though, so now it's just the long wait to see how they do. Glimmer of hope though that since we are doing medicated FET we might not have to wait for a "natural" cycle which is the one bit of excitement in all this frustration, so Im hoping we have some embryos to freeze that I can push to have transferred on next cycle after my "withdrawal" bleed from collection

@2mumlife best of luck over the next few days.

Just wanted to let you know, in case it helps with expectations/planning, I haven't had to wait for a natural cycle after EC to go ahead with FET. My EC was end of July, had withdrawal bleed a week or so after can't remember exactly now and this is my first natural period after withdrawal and it's this one we are doing FET with. Just managed to sneak it in right enough as period came a few days before final FET planning call but as I'm doing natural FET they were happy to go ahead and book me in for day 10 bloods then we had our FET planning call a few days later. Bloods are tomorrow.

From EC to FET planning call was roughly 6 weeks and thats the earliest they could get me in.

@ally99101 Yes see because I'm medicated it seems like I don't have to wait for a natural period - that I could start estradiol after the withdrawl bleed which would be good. I'll just need to chase them up a lot to make it happen that quickly.

Feeling really bloated / gassy today but I think its partly from eating too much at sisters wedding dinner yesterday evening. Luckily was in a lot less pain than last time, so survived the evening with a couple of paracetemols to tide me over. Due embryologist call in a few hours so will go from there. Also have a recovery accupuncture session this afternoon which I'm looking forward to.

Morning all

@2mumlife That's a decent number, hopefully some good news today. Glad you were able to go to some of the wedding celebrations.

So I'm on day 8 of stims today, next scan Friday. This morning I've had some spotting. Had anyone had this? Doesn't feel like it's a good thing. Waiting on the clinic calling me back but obviously a little concerned.

@2mumlife that's a great number! Fingers crossed!

@Kamiros Never had spotting on stims. Definitely see what clinic has to say. I'm sorry you're having so many issues right now with your cycles, it sounds like they've really been all over the place. It could explain follicules not growing well?

Ecstatic news from embryologist, that all 6 eggs were mature and have all fertilised I'm over the moon as it puts us in such a good place compared to first cycle (first cycle 4 collected, only 2 mature, both fertilised though 1 fertilised late (my chemical embryo)). I feel like have just got a huge shot of hope, and relief that all the gambling this cycle in doing things different has really paid off. Last time both our fertilised embryos made great day 5 blasts, so I'm hoping these 6 are in with a really good chance of progressing well. We'll get a day 3 update on Friday.

That’s absolutely brilliant news @2mumlife

@florafoxtrot Thank you! I was dreading this call and really had prepared myself for not having many mature eggs, so to find out they are all mature is just unblieveable news. I feel like our chances have really improved now

@2mumlife That's absolutely brilliant news, so pleased for you. Thanks, still waiting on a call back. Its stopped now but doesn't seem right, will see what they say but might be an idea to cancel and try again.