Anyone here sick of the comments and posts how easy it is for childless / childfree?

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Anyone else sick of the post on Mumsnet and on Facebook etc about how “easy” people with no children must be finding the lockdown and how hard it is for those with children etc? How people with no children must have lots of spare fun time to spend on themselves, plus it’s so easy for them to work at home. Well, none of it’s that easy actually. When fertility treatment is on hold and time is going by all the time (especially unhelpful when you’re in your 40’s). Never mind the key workers, people with ill family and friends etc

One person even posted about how angry she was, they have it so easy

Can no one accept all of this is tough for everyone?! Rather than claiming others have an easy ride

Yanbu.

Reading how much you love your kids is not helpful to any of us right now

I have a ton of shit stuff I can tell you. My point was actually anyone could hate parenthood regardless of the journey they had getting there.

Yanbu

former it’s not a general support thread designed for the woes of everybody ... bloody hell, people DO like to keep the infertile in their place, don’t they

My point was actually anyone could hate parenthood regardless of the journey they had getting there.

But when you can't even get in the door you can't decide if you hate the club.

I have a ton of shit stuff I can tell you.

I know having kids can be utterly shit. Your experience of parenthood makes no difference to me.

Where is your emotional intelligence? Seriously?

MNHQ really needs to stop infertility threads appearing in Active - the same way that adoption threads don't appear. I started a thread in infertility once, only to be told by a poster that IVF was all a lifestyle choice. That was pleasant. This thread has again shown why infertility needs to be kept out of Active.

I’ll start a thread in site stuff about it. It’s been raised before but never happened.

Here it is if you’d like to comment...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3867454-Stop-threads-from-Infertility-appearing-in-Active?msgid=95203957#95203957

I would have to agree they shouldn’t come up on active, if this is the kind of level posts and threads get to. There had been a serious lack of thought and kindness demonstrated here. Infertility hasn’t been fun but other people’s lack of empathy, poor insight and stupidity have been the icing on the cake for me

I'm sorry, OP. It's shit. And as you can see the same ugly, unpleasant people have come onto your thread. Depressingly, they appear to be parents so will likely teach their kids similar attitudes.

Yeah me and DP are having a fucking barrell of laughs working on the front line, struggling to get a proper food shop in while still running our house and trying to avoid getting sick at the same time.

And OP, genuinely sorry for your troubles

YANBU

It took us 6 years for DD1 and 19 months plus a MC along the way for DD2. I’ve heard it all, I’ve lost friends because they had kids before I did and we drifted apart. I’ve travelled the world with DH before kids because it was pretty much all we could do. Life without kids if you want them is fucking shit, it’s often boring, lonely and feels pointless like you’re marking time. And if we’d have had to postpone TTC for any reason I’d have been devastated so can fully understand why you’re feeling shit.

I hope you all get your babies really soon.

There is some seriously unwarranted aggression and lack of empathy on here

From both sides

The irony of people referring to competitions of misery

We are all in this together so stop looking for ways to tear each other down.

And as for banning parents for being allowed to comment on an infertility section it’s potentially like former gamblers or alcoholics being banned from talking about addiction or anyone talking about anything for that matter. How does anyone know how anyone got where they are? How is anyone else’s place to decree a right to have a view?

There are many many things i will never know if my life. A truly happy relationship, trust, financial security, a home of my own. Does it stop me being able to reach out and support other people who have those things or make be compelled to invalidate their experiences ? Does it fuck

I hate those posts. I have two kids and am working from home, ok it's hard going, but having been in the position before of being long term single when all my friends were married and pregnant, wishing I could meet someone and dreaming of having kids. Also listening to friends who are undergoing fertility treatment and how heartbreaking that can be. I think these posts are so thoughtless.

You don’t get it, stophuggingme

OP didn’t invite a competition. She asked for support. And instead, she got idiotic posts, mean posts, but for the most part, posts like yours that are so so breathtakingly thoughtless.

@stophuggingme Has anyone asked for parents to be banned from posting on here? I think they just want to stop them showing up on 'active threads' so that people have to actually seek them out.

Also, many people with infertility issues are already parents- secondary infertility is more common than you'd think.

Have I said I even have children ?
And there we have it

And within five minutes of posting something relatively generalist I have been attacked and judged

And within five minutes of posting something relatively generalist I have been attacked and judged

Who attacked and judged you? Who said you have kids? Are we reading the same thread?

How is my post thoughtless?
I thought and I have my opinion
I have given it

You just don’t agree with it

Given that the general line of attack is that people who have children don’t understand I am justified in interpreting this as thus

Given that the general line of attack is that people who have children don’t understand I am justified in interpreting this as thus

You said, And as for banning parents for being allowed to comment on an infertility section it’s potentially like former gamblers or alcoholics being banned from talking about addiction or anyone talking about anything for that matter.

I was pointing out that banning parents would make no sense at all, given that many of those struggling with infertility are already parents.

Given that the general line of attack is that people who have children don’t understand

I think you've got this wrong too. It's not that people with children don't understand, it's that people who are not suffering/have not suffered infertility don't understand.