Dec/ Jan IVF support

[Chooklass]

Hi all,

I can't see a thread for Dec/ Jan yet - maybe because a lot of clinics shut over the holidays - but mine doesn't! Anyone else out there starting in December and want to support each other? This will be my first round so I'm pretty nervous! X

Hi @41trying that must suck ☹️. Already so much waiting this is the last thing you need! How thin does the lining have to be?

@Chooklass tell me about it.
It has to be 4 or less

@41trying do they expect you to have another bleed? I am sorry you have to wait longer. Hopefully there is enough going on to distract you.

@UnicornPuff. They dont expect me to but they did say the shedding that's left could just be obsorbed into the body

I'm starting down reg injections on Saturday then about a 5 week wait till egg collection. The waiting and counting days is the worst bit!

@Chooklass my OH & I also chuckle when they say must use condoms after in theory the only time we’ve ever been “allowed to TTC” has been from this may to nov & I was always told my fertility was screwed & we had low eggs upon collection yet there was me randomly pregnancy testing as my period only ever came back in nov & we were able to start straight away for FET it did make us laugh “wouldn’t it be great to get pregnant now & save the money!”

There are so many different protocols

Sorry @41trying your collection has been put back. Our first FET was put back a week 2 yes ago Cos of womb lining issues & it’s so horrible to play waiting & have holes pinned on dates. I’m trying to play it cooler this time but I know I’ll be a wreck!!

Very sorry to hear the DR scan was disappointing @41trying 💐 Keeping everything crossed for you that it's down to 4 next week 🤞🏻🍀

Wishing everyone a very merry Christmas and a good number of BFP's for the New Year!💖

Hi all, have been away from the thread for ages due to being manic in work and general Christmas craziness.

All sounds like things are moving forward for everyone which is great...fab to see so many new faces on the thread too...it's such a great support.

Any news @Hopefully84 ?

My period still hasn't arrived...could mean we start next Monday! (Told we could start first period after 27th...first scan has to be on day 2/3 so if it's before then we'll have to wait!!) Haven't has a period since 5th November so I really don't want to have to wait another 2months if it arrives tomorrow!

My cousin announced her second pregnancy this morning...in a lovely video she sent to everyone. Have subsequently spent most of the day on the verge of tears...as have spent most of the day with her.

Really pleased for her but it's devastating for us. Quite cross that she announced it like that...especially as I had a long conversation with her and my auntie about pregnancy and my IVF journey on Sunday. Some forewarning would have made today a lot easier. (But then I feel bad coz her pregnancy shouldn't be about me!)

Does anyone else get themselves into a complete emotional wreck like state with all these announcements?!

@huffleclaw you’re not alone and my partner just doesn’t get it. The longer this goes on, the worse it seems to get. I’m not one to be resentful or jealous but I think it’s only natural that this journey gets you like that, even though you are really happy for them. 3 of my closest friends are pregnant but at least since starting the ivf I feel like at least something is now happening for us so hasn’t felt quite as bad. If I was hungover things would especially get to me.

I think she should have had a word with you first especially as you’d literally just had that conversation 😢 sorry for how it made you feel. Once it happens for us it will feel even more special given how we’ve patiently (ish)! we’ve waited x

@huffleclaw I am so sorry that happened. Unless you are on this side of infertility I dont think people realise how much of an impact saying something like that can have!
I have missed a family party this christmas because quite a few of my cousins are pregnant or I feel will suddenly announce they are. It makes me feel horrible and selfish I am really happy for them, it just reminds you of everything you want that you cant seem to get!
I have everything crossed that your period holds off for another day. It could be you making the next big announcement

@huffleclaw i feel like that all the time. And then I feel guilty for having felt like that, because of course I want my family and friends to be happy too. As we pulled up in the car at my in-laws at Christmas Eve, my husband told me my sister in law was pregnant (as we had suspected from her not drinking when we saw her earlier in the month). He’d known since the day before but hadn’t thought to give me any time to absorb it or prepare myself to put on my happy face. Instead I had to sit in the car for 10 mins to have a cry and then sort out my make-up so no one knew. I’m genuinely really happy for her (and she had an awful miscarriage so she really deserves to be happy) but at the same time I can’t help wishing it was me telling everyone the good news.. I hope I don’t sound too self absorbed

Still, on the positive side I have my scan today and if it all goes well I’m hoping to start meds on Mon/Tues

Hi @huffleclaw sorry to hear that happened, I sometimes feel my friends and family don't know how to handle us being in this situation and I can understand as they genuinely have no idea and no way to help us. Announcing pregnancies should always happen when it's just the two of you and that would give us time to process the news instead of hearing it with others in the room when you have to be so strong to put up a happy face whilst dying inside.
I don't think we should feel guilty as it doesn't mean we don't want them to be happy, just we also want to be happy, that's all. Having children is one of the most selfless acts a human being can do, so no, we are most definitely not selfish.
@41trying it must be so annoying about your lining, that's one of those monsters we fear. I will have my scan in 2weeks, but already worried my lining will not be thin enough... When can you go back for another scan?
Glad Christmas is happening now as I still have to wait for 2weeks to get my period then I can call the clinic to have the scan and start stimms.
Also I am ovulating and DH caught a virus, he's got high fever and can't even sit up to drink water, had to bring him a straw. So absolutely no chance for a BD and it is so difficult as I was secretly hoping we can fell naturally in the last month right before we start.... :(

Thank you everyone! This is exactly what is fab about this thread...surrounded by people who just get it!

@LottSE20 that's so hard to have to find out just before! I thought it was bad enough and I had a couple of hours to hide and digest first! You don't sound self absorbed at all...it is such an all consuming feeling and so so difficult...it is a need on the most basic biological level before any other layers...it's no wonder it makes us all a but lit crazy!! VERY exciting about your scan! I have everything crossed it goes well today and you can start!

@UnicornPuff I know what you mean about needing to miss parties and everyone being pregnant!! It really does feel like everyone else in the world is pregnant and spending time discussing how lovely it is for them is so difficult.

@Nmvasey that exactly how I feel, I hate not being able to just be happy for people but it is crushing. The fact that IVF is starting is helping...but then there is a part of me that still feels a bit cross that I am discussing having to give myself injections when people seem to just think about getting pregnant and are successful!

But need to keep positive!! Still going to acupuncture which is amazing! I'm such fidgeter and I can't sit still for more than about 20seconds but in my last two sessions I have laid perfectly still for about 20mins!! Very weird but good sensation! Would highly recommend!

Good luck to everyone as we carry on!! 2020 is going to be our year!!

@Lily999 your post came through as I was writing mine. You are completely right, it is just a complete lack of understanding. I did end up saying something in the evening after my cousin had left...my Nan started it for me because I had already had a little cry to her in the kitchen. We were discussing the announcement and her not saying anything until 12 weeks and the video etc and she said "well I think she would've appreciated not finding out like that" so I had to say, yes it wasn't the best way to hear the news when I was spending all day with everyone. My auntie said "well there is no good time" so I did have to say that perhaps when it was just the three of us discussing my IVF and pregnancy in general might have been a better time! But equally...don't want to make her pregnancy and excitement about me! It's a bloody minefield and I don't think anyone knows how to react or what to say.

So frustrating to feel like you are missing your last 'chance' to try naturally! It's Sod's law isn't it?! Hope you have a busy and fun two weeks before your scan and keep yourself as distracted as possible.

Thanks @huffleclaw, yes, it is frustrating, but maybe due to the festive period or something else I don't know I feel calm. I have not felt this way for so long... Probably due to the fact that now I know we are starting in 2 weeks time and we have never been this close to actually having IVF. It was always the kind of situation when "only this needs to be done before we can start treatment" and "just have to put this on hold because...", but now it feel real, I can almost smell it! :) Sorry for being silly, but this is how I feel. xxx

So sorry to hear that you both had the ordeal of baby bombs to go through at Christmas @huffleclaw and @LottSE20 💐 People who don't struggle with infertility just simply don't get it - because, you know, if we all just relaxed it would happen, wouldn't it?! It sends me apoplectic with rage every time someone gives me that pitiful look and trots that one out! 🤯

And sorry to hear DP is poorly for your last au naturel pre-IVF cycle @Lily999! As you say though, the next 2 weeks will fly by and then you have the excitement of finally getting this show on the road 🤩

Last pill yesterday and first buserelin jab this morning for me 💉 👍 Didn't hurt at all, which was a pleasant surprise 😊 The most traumatic part was listening to my kitten yowling outside the bathroom door because I wouldn't let him in whilst I was doing it... definitely didn't want an emergency trip to the vet because the curious kitten accidently got jabbed with buserelin! 😾

To those of you who went onto buserelin from the pill - how long did it take for AF to show? I used to get AF 24 hours after missing a pill when I was on it way back when, but not sure if it will be different with buserelin being involved?

@Lily999 that’s doesn’t sound silly at all, I feel the same way. I think it’s because there is such a long period where you feel powerless and then finally this provides some level of control. And there’s something about starting the new year with the potential for it to be positive - this could be the year it happens for us all. I really hope so

@LottSE20 yes, probably that's it, finally felling like we have some (still limited, but) sort of control over things. What makes me really happy is that the bloods they took on the 25th of November are only valid for 3months so we must start within that time period, even if something happens in January we must start in February the latest. But we are starting in the January period that will come in 2weeks time whoop whoop! Can't wait to be able to say on Monday that "we are starting IVF at the end of next week" :)
@BambiOnIce80 so nice to read you have started the next phase, ot gets more and more exciting by the day isn't it?
Can I ask if you stopped drinking coffee? I am still allowing myself the morning one cup, but was wondering if I should stop? Or should I stop once I start the injections? I will not have down regulation so egg collection comes a lot sooner, that's why I am wondering.

hey all, sounds like the last few days have been all go. I have been a right miserable cow, snapping at everyone. I am hoping its just the buserlin.
@Lily999, I have my scan Monday so fingers crossed, I have had a couple of spots, so I am hoping it was that little bit of lining that needed to come away and I can start stims Monday.

Oh @41trying then it's only the weekend to go then you will find out on Monday what's next, so excited for you! Spotting in this case does sound like a good sign, sometimes I think how great would it be to be able to check things like cysts, lining in a way ourselves :) Not like performing a scan, but the way you can measure your body temperature at home or your blood sugar, HCG or ovulation.
Have you stopped drinking coffee?

@Lily999. Nurse did say you can get some after AF while taking buserlin waiting for lining, or it can just absorb into the body.
I only drink d cafe tea and coffee. I'll have a normal coffee if I'm out and about.
I just wish I could have started stims last week then EC would have been before I go back to work, but body's never do what they want do they.

Hm.. ok, I will stop then from today. When did you stop? When or before you started treatment?

No @Lily999 that doesn't sound silly at all! I know exactly what you mean...every day that my period hasn't arrived it has felt steadily closer and as if I could just reach out and touch it!!

@BambiOnIce80 so exciting that you are moving on to your next stage!! Glad the injections didn't hurt too!

@41trying fingers crossed it is your lining and you can start! Not surprised you're being grumpy. The stress of IVF in general is enough to make anyone grumpy...let alone all the other hormones we are having to deal with!

@Lily999 I am down to one coffee a day...that has taken some work!! But I will continue to drink that...it is fine for early pregnancy to drink some coffee...and I cannot cope with no caffeine alongside injections!! I have spent the last few months cutting down so it wasn't all in one go! I am in the same boat as you...no down regs so it'll all be very soon when it starts!

Hi @huffleclaw, I also need to call the clinic on the day when AF arrives and they will ask me to go for a scan 2days later then if the lining is ok and there are no cysts I can start the injections right away on that day, it feels so abrupt! Do you know what injections will you have to use? I was given 4 options (Gonal-F/ Bemfola / Menopur / Meriofert) and they will tell me once I am there for the scan and pick up the meds.

@Lily999, do you mean did I cut coffee out? If so, I have always only had d cafe and the odd normal one, it doesn't agree with me