Trying to conceive baby#2 following ivf treatment for #1

[lucieloos]

I thought I would start this thread as I can't see anything similar. We underwent many rounds of icsi and following a couple of bfns, and an ectopic pregnancy we were finally blessed with our beautiful daughter last year.

We recently started thinking about baby no 2 and had 4 frozen embryos of which 2 had been tested and found to be chromosomally normal so are meant to have a better chance. We didnt have the other 2 tested.

A couple of weeks back we had our first fet with one of the tested embryos and got a bfp super early at 4dp5dt. Sadly by 8dpt the line was barely visible and resulted in a chemical pregnancy. I've been feeling really down about it as this was meant to be a super duper embryo with no genetic problems which they said was the main reason embryos fail.

I thought it would be easier trying for #2 and of course it is in a way as I realise how lucky I am to have had a baby but I can feel the infertility fog starting to descend again as I realise although I've had a brief respite I will never be like my fertile friends and I do really want another baby and a sibling for my little girl.

Im feeling a bit negative at the moment. We will probably go back for the other tested embryo in the near future but I can't see how I would ever get lucky enough to get 2 bfps in a row. These things just don't happen to me so just not too hopeful about it at all. We said that if we used all of our frosties with no success we would be happy with what we have but already I am thinking should I do more fresh cycles. I will be 39 soon though so time isn't on my side for that.

Anyway just wondering if anyone else is in a similar situation and would like to share the journey. Please come and say hi.

Just peeking in as gearing up for FET. I've read the first few pages of the thread but have some catching up to do. My first cycle brought us DD but have had 4 unsuccessful ones trying for a second.

Yes Twinkledag, just what I was thinking yesterday when my AWOL period arrived just as news of Kate did. :(

Welcome @HelloMist. I recognise your name.

Good luck with your FET. How many do you have frozen?

Hi everyone just checking in

lucie how are you feeling? Hoping all is well. Do you have an early scan booked?

cupcakes hoping for good news from you, but if not hoping you are looking after yourself

jen did you get an answer on your progesterone?

twinkle glad to hear from you. I think we can all agree that kate Middleton is incredibly annoying with her perfect fertility and cute on-schedule babies

Welcome mist - hoping this is your lucky cycle.

As for me, have started the progynova and first scan scheduled for next Tuesday cd11. Hoping everything goes ok!

Hi snow I'm good thanks. Feeling pretty tired at the moment but probably a combo of starting back to work, a baby that still doesn't sleep through and being pregnant. I have an early scan booked for a week Sunday when I will be 7 weeks so still a while to wait yet. Did my final digi test today and got 3+ so that's it now no more tests for me. So glad that you've got your next round underway. Not long to wait for the scan. Hoping this is the lucky one for you too.

Welcome mist good luck with your fet.

Twinkle, hope you're ok. Yes all the kate drama very annoying!

Good to hear things are going well @lucieloos.

Good luck to you too @Snowdayfet!

Sorry I posted that from my computer and it used an old username 🤦‍♀️

I'm pissed off today.

Pissed off at all the debt we are in.

Pissed off that others take for granted what I want so badly.

Pissed off that I have to see my lovely husband so sad when cheating scumbags like Wayne Rooney have 4 kids so easily.

Fuck off world today.

@Snowdayfet eeek exciting to get started at last!

@lucieloos well done on getting a 3+ on a digi. Hope the next week goes quick until your scan

@PonyPals and @HelloMist hello 👋

@twinkledag sorry to hear you are feeling so fed up. It's a horrible time after a failed cycle and waiting to go again I'm totally fed up of hearing about the royal baby, it's everywhere!

I went for my scan on Friday and baby still had a heartbeat. They dated me as 6 weeks but I should have been 8. They then tried to discharge me until 12 week scan. They just kept dismissing my dates I'm really worried about measuring so far behind. They agreed to scan again in 2 weeks. Ive not even booked with midwife obviously since they've been telling me every week it's a delayed miscarriage. I'm now booked in at ivf clinic for a scan on Friday. They have said they are worried about dates and still think the chance of miscarriage is high. I can't even believe this is happening. It's been 5 weeks since my first beta. I am dreading Fridays scan as every scan I'm waiting to be told there's no heartbeat anymore

Big hugs @nocupcakesorcocktails. I don't even know what to say! On one hand I am so so pleased that baby still has a heartbeat but on the other hand so scared for you that the chance of miscarriage is high! Praying it's a good sign that the baby's heart is beating! Please keep me posted and wishing you all the luck in the world for Friday.
xxxxx

Wow @NoCupcakesOrCocktails I can't even imagine what you must be going through. Please keep us updated and wishing you all the very best.

Lucie sending good vibes for your scan next week. Twinkle sorry to hear you are so fed up, it is all so shit sometimes this journey. And the money side of things really stings. We are about to embark on yet more debt to try and get our second child. I find it hard. Cupcakes what a hard time you are having. I am really hoping that you get some good news on Friday.

So we got our protocol through:

Day 1 Progynova
Day 6 Start Prednisolone
Day 12-14 Scan
One week after scan Embryo transfer.
Start Ultrogestan 400 twice per day.
Then test....

I wrote this all down as I am after some advice: Fresh IVF I took 1200mg in total of progesterone. Less this time and I'm not sure why. Also the Prednisolone I started taking only 5 days before transfer, not sure why I need to be on it for all that time? Any advice ladies who have had Prednisolone? I bloody hate the side effects of the steroids so would like to take them for as little amount of time as possible!

Also, anyone else relate to this: Obviously want to go ahead with FET as have another child but also just getting my life/sanity/figure back after DD1 who is nearly 1 now. Feel like I have to rush into another due to previous infertility and also age after so many years unsuccessful TTCing. I just can't face all the drugs, the increased appetite, the possible failure and disappointment. Just having a wobble I guess but it is hard to get myself motivated.

Good luck today @NoCupcakesOrCocktails 

@Jenbot78 - can't help with the prescription question but definitely can relate to the part about not being motivated. That's exactly how I felt before this round. Be kind to yourself. This shit is so hard!

Jen, I think prednisone can take a little while to kick in which is why they've probably started you in it earlier. I started on day 1.

Cupcakes, good luck today. Really hoping everything goes well.

Twinkle, hope you are feeling a little better now. Infertility is so hard and unfair.

Snow, hope all is going well with your cycle. Good luck for the scan!

Sadly no heartbeat at today's scan. It's what I expected but still feeling devastated. I'll probably be off mn for a few weeks. Good luck everyone for your upcoming cycles

I'm so so sorry cupcakes it really is devastating even though you've been expecting it. Take care of yourself lovely.

Oh no @NoCupcakesOrCocktails, I'm so so sorry to hear this. Look after yourself. Life is so cruel sometimes.

So sorry to hear that cupcake. It’s shit. Look after yourself

jen I hear you on the motivation!

twinkle sorry you’re feeling down. It’s all just so unfair. And am not even thinking about the cost!

lucie glad all is well.

My scan is Tuesday so we’ll see!

Good luck for scan @Snowdayfet!

Advice needed -

I had a hysterectopy and they did deep cuts at the same time to help with implantation. This was in January. I've asked clinic if I can do my FET June/July. They have said yes but recommend that I have the hysto again as it is effective 6-8 months. The closer you have it done to a cycle the better.

But it's another £1600 plus flights plus hotel! So I've told them I will do the FET May/June - this means from hysto to transfer will be 5 months.

They've said I should be ok but would be better if I have the hysto to May, then transfer in July.

What would you do? The money side of this is depressing me!

This is just my opinion twinkle but personally I wouldn't do it. I had the scratch on my very first ivf and had bfn. I've never done it again and I've had a mixture of bfns and bfps. Personally I don't think it makes a difference but you need to do whatever makes you feel best. If you didn't do it and got a bfn would you think afterwards would it have made a difference if I had the hysto. For me it was never even a consideration after the first one failed. I wouldn't repeatedly pay that sort of money for it as ivf is as expensive enough as it is. Just do the 5 month transfer if you would still like the previous one to have some effect.

Thank you @lucieloos, sensible advice as always. I had the scratch with DS and have had it before and had BFN too.

It's so much upheaval to do it too - money, time off work, lying to work, being away from DS. My gut tells me not to do it, I just wanted other peoples experiences too.

@twinkledag I probably wouldn't do it either. Personally haven't had the scratch but others have and had a mixture of bfn and bfp as lucieloos said.

Just have a question. I am a bit confused as what to do.
So, woke up this morning and I had spotting and some blood when wiping. I rang the clinic as I thought this must be CD1 but they said it has to be a full flow before 3pm.
I checked again at 1pm and there was maybe half a teaspoon on the pad and then I couldn't check until 6pm  as we were driving in the car. By that stage I would say that it was a full bleed but who knows when it started to fully bleed.
So my question is. Do I count today as CD1 or not. I am due to start gonal f on day 3 and don't want to get it wrong.

I would probably count that as day 1 pony

I would count that as day 1 too.

Thanks guys

pony I would also count it as cd1

twinkle - re the scratch, I haven’t had one - but after my last failed cycle my doctor told me that he would recommend the scratch only where there had been no evidence of implantation, as the effect of the scratch is to sort of kick your uterine cells into action. But because I’d had a chemical he didn’t recommend it. So on that basis you wouldn’t need it either.

As an alternative view if you do want to have it but don’t want to travel is there somewhere in london that could do it for you?

cupcakes hope you’re doing ok. I am thinking of you this weekend