IVF - A supportive group of ladies at various stages of the ivf journey.

[Dbear35]

A super group of women supporting each other and sharing their personal journeys and experiences during the IVF processs. All are welcome !

Hi @Liverpool19,

Very exciting sweetie!

I did not feel much at all, apart perhaps for being a bit more tired. It is all happening for you as well hey? Mine was short protocol, so 2 weeks of injections (13 days total I think) Started for 3 days with 2 in the evening and then 1 was added in the morning. But we are all different I guess. All the best sweetie!

XXX

@Dbear, 2 weeks to FET? That's wonderful! Woop woop! Well I am waiting for my AF which should be in the next few days. Then will get my prescription and next month I am on! In the meantime I am trying to determine where to go on holiday, Borneo seems to tickle my fancy for the time being....It is so exciting to read where everybody is with their progress .

Try not to be nervous sweetie, soon your embie will be on board. It will be magical! I know, the dreading 2WW, but the truth is we can't do anything but make the most of it. It is daunting and our mind can play tricks, but believe with all of your being, all of it! I have everything crossed for you sweet soul. BE happy and think of your love for one another OH).

Lost of love,
XXX

Hi star thanks! Tiredness plays a massive part in my job too as I work shifts. I can be up from 3am ready for a 4.30am start. And then my late weeks I sometimes don’t finish until 1am. So I just need to factor all this in and see if it’s possible for me to do another role. Extra things to think about 🙈😂 x

@Liverpool19, you will be fine, you will see , but yes I find that planning is key XXX

Hi @Liverpool19 I had the scratch done but it was part of my hysteroscopy so I was under sedation. Didn't feel any after effects tho.

I had no prob with stimulation drugs - although I wasn't able to move around at my usual pace towards the end (usually I am buzzing about from here to there). I had to move slowly and I sometimes got out of breath if dizzy. No tiredness tho and it didn't effect my moods.

So exciting that you are nearly ready to start

Xxx

jane thank you for your reply. It’s moving very fast 😂 x

dbear 2 weeks left how exciting, you are on countdown! 😁that’s come quickly too!

And star not long til you start again!

Hello all, hope everyone is having a good week?

Dbear and Star So exciting that you start so soon!

Minster Did you arrange the harmony/NIPT test? do you know how quickly you will get your results?

Dinks how are you feeling?

Hope everyone else is doing well?

We had our NHS dating scan yesterday. Our little baby is growing well and was waving its little arms and legs about, and stroking its face. They took the measurements to test for Downs etc, and we will hear back on that in 2 to 7 days. Hopefully all will be ok and then we can start telling people...

I did tell my mum last night who was very, very emotional. She also pretended that she had known all along. She hadn't, but I'll let her think that... :)

Neither me or my OH were very impressed with the hospital. The lady who did the scan didn't shut the door when she was doing it, and were staff were wandering in and out. The nurses i saw were nice, but the doctor wasn't very impressive. She was very officious, didn't say her name, or what she wanted to talk to me about (which i always find rude!). She also said that my pregnancy is high risk because the conception "wasn't natural" so my body will spend the whole time trying to "reject the embryo". I just don't think that's accurate, do you? I left the hospital frantically googling it, and found a few studies that had shown a slightly increased miscarriage rate, but they strongly stated that it might be because that people having IVF tend to be older, and have underlying medical conditions so it's not accurate to compare to the "normal" population. I also remember, the IVF consultants saying that there is no strong evidence to show that there is a higher miscarriage rate with IVF compared to natural conception, and once implantation occurs, the pregnancy will pan out the same as any other.

Thankfully we have another good hospital just near us, so I think I'll go there. I don't need to hear any pseudo science or things that will send me into a panic! :)

Hi Rose,

Yes it is approaching but i am still to have my AF this month and will; start on my next cycle. I am not in the rush, says the 44 years old, but I am getting ready .

I have done lots of research, read lots of articles and talked to 2 of my friends GPs and my OH's husband who is a surgeon and they told me that the body knows what it is doing and will adapt. IVF/ICSI is just a little help to start and then nature takes over, and I firmly believe it.

I think it is utterly outrageous a Doctor comes out with such statement, or at least if it is backed up with real facts I could understand, but even then it is extremely insensitive. My OH uncle's wife could not get pregnant all these years ago so got some help and ended up having 5 children, always with help. @RoseWrites you are doing a great job, sweetie, your body is doing very well and yes stay away from that "witch" before you get too worried. You will be fine . The truth is there are risks, at any age, with any methods (natural or not). All we can is our best and trust nature to do what it needs to do.

It is Friday & pay day and I am so delighted!!!!

Love to all ladies!

XXX

LOL LOL LOL my OH's husband????? So many typo in my previous message! Meant to write my OH's uncle!!!

Sorry a bit busy at work :-)

XXX

Thanks Star. I was cross that she was so irresponsible to talk about things that she obviously doesn't understand... she banged on and on that i was high risk, and then paused and said "I need to check". And then left the room. The whole thing was bizarre. But at least it's early days and we have a good hospital we can still move to!

And I didn't notice the typos Star :)

x

Hi everyone!

Quickie from me... I've been reading when I can but work is insane :( Hope it doesn't continue like this for much longer... I am shattered.

Rose We had a totally rubbish Dr at the hospital too, I think ours was in training though as I looked up the list of consultants afterwards and his name wasn't there. He just kept telling me I needed to take aspirin for high blood pressure or "YOU MIGHT DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". I questioned the aspirin as 1) I have seriously low blood pressure anyway, like medically diagnosed low blood pressure 2) I still have bleeding episodes 3) I have a stomach ulcer and have been told not to take aspirin. He just kept saying "yes but... YOU MIGHT DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" in a really dramatic way. And he also wouldn't say my name and kept calling me "woman" and on all the notes he's just written "woman". FFS. Needless to say I am going to refuse to see him again!

Your Dr is a total moron. Literally, she is wrong. You don't need a medical degree to interpret that evidence. This is not a baby transplant, it is your own genetic material, supported by your own hormones, not a sodding donated kidney. ARGH why are they all morons!! I would love to get paid 6 figures for being a moron. I hope she didn't worry you.

The bonus of being high risk is you get extra scans, but you need to be prepared for more morons along the way.

Jane Hope you're doing ok! Did you decide to go for 2 or 3? I guess it depends whether any of them are good for freezing? Fingers crossed for you :)

Liverpool The only side effects I got were bloating. Got stretchy trousers?! After egg collection I was super super bloated but it turns out it was undiagnosed OHSS. Which then cropped up again later. Most people don't get OHSS.

How is everyone else doing? Dbear and Star time is coming around so quickly for your treatments!

Aliona Well done for sticking the counselling out for this long. It doesn't sound like she's quite the right counsellor for you... hope there has been something useful though, even if it is "I now know I don't like this style of counselling"!! Does your clinic offer counselling? Ours did, and you could go for any reason, not just IVF related.

As for me, work is nuts, so I hardly have a moment to myself. Which is good as I don't focus on the fact I'm STILL getting waves of nausea. The reflux is under control thanks to Gaviscon!!!! Thank heavens for Gaviscon. I have a sizable bump, though I am wondering if it is more to do with the amount of cake I have been eating...............................................................................

We have the 20 week scan in early Feb. I am quite nervous about it... it feels like the last big milestone. The midwife at my last appt went on so so much about starting to notice the baby's movements, but I've not felt a thing. I know it's normal, but I really wish NHS wouldn't harp on so much about all the risks and things that go wrong. Like, we all know stuff can go wrong, I just feel like that's all they talk about!

In unrelated news my new sofa arrived today (thank you John Lewis clearance!!!) and I am comfy for the first time in ages!! We also bought an ex-display dresser for our kitchen, so it is starting to look like a home. Just need to replace all the carpets, finish the joinery in the kitchen, re-tile the bathroom and re-turf the lawn. Then on the market it goes . Starting to think that selling a house before a tiny baby arrives is a bad idea, but I need to get out of here...

Minster Have you had your NIPT yet? Hope it all went ok!!

Ciao for now lovelies!!!

@Dinksandbinks lol lol I loved your message!! I am still laughing my head off!! But I do concur, they are so many morons, it is unbelievable! I couldn't have put it better!

It sounds like you have had to deal a fair amount of morons as well hey? I mean yours sounds like not just a moron, but the King of Morons! The highest level! YOU MIGHT DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you actually kidding me? I have been in your beautiful country for almost 25 years now, but I promise you I wouldn’t have been able to contain my calm and my Latin/Frenchness would have taken the better of me and would have told him to F right off!! OMG Is this for real? He told you this? What is the issue with just “things are going well, keep doing what you are doing” or “all good so far, hopefully all will carry on to be ok”. Why always dramas? I swear to you if I ever write another Thesis in my lifetime I would do it on how Human Beings like complications. I love your attitude, yes move on from this despicable Doc and take good care of yourself.

That’s lovely to hear your house is coming together. 20 weeks in a few days? This is amazing!! A fantastic milestone indeed!

Yes soon again for me, but another 4 weeks before it all kicks off so still time to relax even more. Next week I am off to Milan and Naples for work and will remain there for the WE with OH joining me. Looking forward to it.

Love to all!

XXX

Aww Star I am glad I made you laugh!! I was soooo proud of myself for being calm and polite in the consultation, my DH just kept squeezing my hand really hard because I was swinging between "ARE YOU KIDDING ME" rage and hysterical laughter every time the doctor called me "Woman".

Normally I would have had very strong words for a doctor like this but I think he was a trainee, and I didn't want to be too damaging to his confidence! Plus I wonder if some things were lost in translation... English was definitely not his first language (or even second, by the sounds of it) and maybe he thought of me like someone who would ignore advice to quit smoking (btw I don't smoke, just FYI!) and wanted to make sure I was taking it seriously...

Of course the alternative explanation is that he was, as you say, the King of Morons!!! I think being pregnant has made me go soft, for not telling him exactly what I thought at the time! Once upon a time I was known as "the Queen of Mean" so something obviously has changed!!

I am so envious of all your travelling... A weekend with your DH sounds lovely, and a perfect prelude to the next cycle! Hopefully there will be fabulous food and some lovely weather to restore your energy! Fingers crossed for a wonderful trip!

P.S. I hate complications, and dramas. I would love a quiet life, yes please. Does that mean I disprove your thesis? ;)

LOL Oh No @dinksandbinks, it would mean you will be in my antithesis, which I am pretty sure will be the minority ;-) X

Hi everyone rose brilliant news about your dating scan and ignore the nurse she sounds horrid 🙈
dinks I wear an issued uniform for work and I think they are made by people who are like 3 stone 😂 there’s no give. So I’m going to have to buy my own! We are in the process of selling our house everything is with the solicitors hoping for a completion date soon 😂 so I am completely with you there! Nice to hear your pregnancy is going well. Xx

Liverpool I managed by wearing longline vests to cover the waistband and zip, and putting a hair bobble through the button hole to connect it to the button. That got me through the bloating! It was really just my abdomen - butt, boobs, everything else was fine, so just waistband that might need some attention.

Ooooh good luck with your house sale!!! I have everything crossed for you :) I am sad, but I love moving, can't wait to do it again!!

Star Always happy to be a minority in anyone's thesis!! I'll even be a case study if you like

dinks thanks for the tips I will try them! Ahh thank you shouldn’t be too much longer before we are out of here. I keep thinking I’ll start sorting out and keep putting it off. I know I am going to be sorry 😂😂 x

Ha you all make me laugh so much, there are many many morons in the NHS i’m afraid, though to be fair there are many morons in all professions...horrible for not closing the door (i mean seriously??), “woman” (you should complain on Twitter and say #metoo. #ifeltlikeapieceofmeat), and oh god YOU MIGHT DIE!! 😂🤣🙈🙄 seriously I haven’t enough emojis! I’ve had ones like that, like my IVF consultant nurse (we like to call her “the angel of death” as EVERYTHING is said with the same face and expression she told me in the same tone as the above “you might die” that “YOUR EGGS ARE RUBBISH, THEY ARE DYING, EVERY DAY, DYING” then swiftly followed by “how does an appointment in 3 weeks sound?” Errrrr like how many of my eggs will have died by then??!!!

Honestly FFS!! Then you have my doctor friends telling me all the doctors & nurses are they are probably all out caning it & doing cocaine every weekend to get through the weeks. I DON’T WANT TO KNOW THAT they should be looking after me & my embryos!!

However, rose so pleased telling your mum went well, it’s a lovely feeling isn’t it! It is like a normal pregnancy, they are talking big hairy bollocks.

dinks 20 weeks is the last hurdle so you are nearly there then, not too long anyway!

My friend has done the bloods for the NIPT, waiting for a call next week, should be before mid week so fingers crossed, & for rose too

In other news gin dog is doing well but now trying to make her baby & pram safe is not fun & im heading to London to see some ppl this weekend!

Virtual hugs to all!

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is well! So today I had my first appointment. It looks like I am going to be on the short cycle. I will b starting Norethisterone tablets on 14th Feb (day I go away) for 10 days. Then have a scan 4/5 days afterwards. If all ok I will then be starting my first injections. Nurse is hospefull it will take around 20 days from start of injections until egg transfer.

X

@Liverpool19 exciting! How are you feeling about it all? I was pretty daunted but it was much easier than I feared once I got going. Valentine's Day start seems appropriate!

@Liverpool19 this is great! So we will be doing stims and the rest around the same time I think! It is happening so fast hey? X

jane I think I was in a bit of a daze when I left the hospital but I think I’m feeling ok about it now 😂 I’m away with my mum for a week taking the first set of tablets which is fine because I can hide them from her. Trying to keep as much secret as possible. Then home and a scan a couple of days later.
star oh great I’m glad I have someone who will be going through it roughly the same time as me to talk to. Even if it is on here 😂. Everything is moving really really fast I can’t belive it!!

Hi all - what do you think I should do?

My progesterone levels have been steadily decreasing since transfer. They test me every 2 days. They were over 300 Friday, 284 Sunday, 178 yesterday. They said anything over 100 is fine and they added cyclogest pessaries to my injections yesterday.

The thing is, in a natural cycle I get a headache when my prog drops and I had a bad headache on Sunday night - now it turns out it was dropping then. I have a headache now. Should I tell them that it may be dropping further or just trust that they know what they are doing? I know I'm not meant to be anxious in 2WW but I am!

Hope you're all well. @Liverpool19 glad you are feeling positive xxx

jane give them a call. You know your body so to put your mind at rest call them. X