IVF cycle buddies March/ April cont.

[Hobbes39]

I saw that we were nearly at 1k posts and think we get cut off at that point, so hope that you all find this new thread - going to post a link to it in the old thread...
Will be nice to keep updated with how everyone is getting on x

hope I'm so sorry. That's so sad and can't imagine how devastated you must feel right now. Huge hugs to you.
geeup great (sounds so wrong but hope you know what I mean) that af had made an appearance so you can move on.
Afm as expected follow up pretty hideous. The dr was lovely to be fair but I fell apart in there. Basically the options are to do it all again/donor eggs/adopt an embryo/adoption/give up. . She said that one option is to take them to day 5 and then freeze them and then put them in as a fet, not sure how that would make more of a chance of things.
She is sending us a copy of all the tests/scans we had done so if we do decide to go elsewhere then we have the info.
Apparently there was nothing wrong with the eggs/swimmers, but the embryos may have not been quite right or the implantation window was missed.
I have been very sad all afternoon, going through the same emotions I did the day I found out it hadn't worked. However we have booked a holiday for my time off in July (as that's too soon to try again, esp as af is showing no signs of showing like she should) so something to look forward to.
Hope everyone else is ok xx

Oh no hope I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you've got some close support around you and that you can be kind to yourself this weekend and have some time to recover and rest. Thinking of you X

Hi bjones great that you have booked a holiday to enjoy and relax, especially while you wait to try again.

It's a numbers game ladies, our PGS has shown us that most embryos aren't meant to make it, especially after 35. It's not our fault, we just have to stay strong and know that one day it will be that lucky embryo!

We will all get there, I know it! X

Hope, I'm so so sorry - I'm devastated for you - it's just so fucking cruel. After cycling with you last time, I was so happy for your BFP, I can't imagine how awful you must be feeling right now and wish there was something I could say to help...Sending you a v unmumsnet hug x
AFM - no AF yet. V odd. Thought it was coming roughly on time as I usually (tmi warning) I get looser bowels around the day I come on, and that happened, but now all signs gone and still no blood. I'm actually glad we took a break from ttc this month as my head would be all over the place at mo if we hadn't....
Bjones sorry about your follow up. I think the thing is they just don't know why it works or not, so it's all a guessing game so they can't really tell us anything. I know a friend of mine who went through many rounds and ended up with a baby did say her consultant had said that 'if you do it enough times it will work, it's just a case of whether you can put yourself through it over and over'. I'm sure that's only true for some people, but it illustrated to me that it's a numbers / luck game.
Hope everyone else is ok x

hope I am so sorry to read your devastating news. It's just heartbreaking, there are no words. I hope you and DP are looking after each other.

Glad you are seeing the positives in AFs arrival geeup

Bjones I've read oh MN that lots of clinics prefer to do freeze all cycles followed by FET. The thinking being that full IVF cycle is so hard on your body that it's not in an optimal state to conceive. The added benefit is that you can have PGS testing to ensure a chromosomally normal embryo is replaced. Downsides are obvs extra time, cost and the risk of none getting to day 5; but then if they don't make day 5 it's unlikely they'd take anyway.

Sorry your body isn't playing ball hobbes. Are you planning to cycle again soon?

Hope you're both doing okay bee and laurel and waves to anyone I've missed x

Thank you all for your kind words, all your support thoughout has been invaluable.

I think i would of rather just had a negative than to see that positive and have it taken away again. Its just so bloody unfair.

I'm going to take a few days off next week to just sulk at home, but i'm dreading going back after, the 17 yr old trainee at work is pregnant, by accident, doesnt want it, about same time scale as i would of been.
How cruel is it that i have to now see her everyday, she doesnt even want her baby, why does she get one and i dont.

Next steps will be scan friday, wait for bleed and hormone levels to come down then FET and keep everything bloody crossed that it thaws ok and works. No idea how long we will have to wait, i just wanted to get out of there this morning so didnt ask xxx

Oh Hope poor you. Remember you don't want her baby, you want yours and you will get there. Is your partner supportive? Everything crossed for your FET x

Situations like that are the worst, I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. Seems like everywhere I turn people are having babies and I can't help but think some people don't deserve them.. It doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you human! X x

Hope I'm so sorry to hear your heartbreaking news! I feel so sad that you're going through this, life really can be so cruel at times! I hope you've got people around you that are taking good care of you! Thinking of you xx

I hope everybody else is doing okay xx

Hi everyone - hope you are all ok?
Hope - been thinking of you... I hope you are doing as well as can be expected - taking some time off is a good idea. It's perfectly understandable to feel crap about the trainee - I often feel angry about people who get pregnant so easily/accidentally... and nothing got my more angry than seeing the full term pregnant ladies just outside the entrance to the hospital (which is a shared entrance maternity with fertility unit 🙄) smoking away... there have been many a time when I've been going in for scans etc when I've wanted to shout at them for being so flipping complacent!
Anyway, rant over.. sorry!!
Good news is my period came (prob explains the rant!) today, 5 days later than usual just like you Geeup!
At least this means I'll hopefully be on track for FET starting with my June period. Can I ask, does anyone know the timescales for a medicated FET? I figure it won't be as long as with a fresh cycle, but anyone know? Thanks x

Hi hobbes. FET procedure varies depending on your cyxle. Assumings it's generally regular and less than 35 days you start down regging on buseralin on day 21, scan a week later to check ovaries are quiet and (if they are) add in oestrogen (progynova usually). Another scan a week later to confirm lining is good, if so stop buseralin, continue with progynova and add in the progesterone pessaries. ET is booked for x days +1 later. X being stage of embryo development; so ET is four days later for a day 3 embryo or six days later for a day 5 (I hope that makes sense!)

Thinking of you hope

And hope everyone else is okay x

Weird we were both the same hobbes. Was yours really light? Mine was virtually non existent - hardly any red blood, mainly brown (sorry tmi). I'm worried what impact this would have if i go ahead and start cycling now?

Hi Geeup, I know it's odd that we've both had the same delay. Mine hasn't been as light though - while it's been very light in comparison with the bleed after it all failed, (anything would be though!) it's been pretty mediumship so far for me. I did feel like crap this morning though, but I think that might be more down to deciding to start 5:2 diet yesterday and I was so lightheaded when I got up today..!

You're very determined to do the 5:2 diet hobbes good for you! Is it good to have another focus, or do you feel it's just another part of the whole bigger IVF vs separate thing to try take your mind off upcoming cycling?

Thinking of you too hope. Good luck in waiting for AF and scan at end of the week.

When is your next appointment with clinic geeup? Hopefully they can give you some expert advice and direction on timings for next round based on your current situation/symptoms?

Hope you're doing ok bjones? Nice you have holiday in July to look forward to and enjoy before decisions and next steps. Some time away from work and for you and OH to kick back.

Waves nemo thanks for checking in. Hope you're doing well? When is your upcoming scan?

How are the headaches 8um8le8ee? You feeling ok?

I'm definitely thinking about doing PGS testing now too laurel as you mention such interesting stats on getting that best embryo by checking the chromosomes and ruling out the ones that likely never would have implanted anyway. Makes you think. A lot. And I'm wondering why this isn't seen as a standard thing?! Surely clinics would want to give us the best shot through these check, as it would increase their success rates? Is it the cost? I'm going to raise at my consulation next week, hopefully an option for me (I'm on NHS) but would be happy to pay if it's really something that can give more of a guarantee. So for you laurel, great to know you have got some good ones for your upcoming FET. Fingers crossed x

Good luck facing the scan tomorrow silver. Keep us posted. Hoping the meditation is continuing to help with your sleeping better and overall wellness.

Hi to everyone else xxx

Hi Bee - I decided to do the 5:2 as I'm not v good at dieting, but what appealed to me was that I don't have to the majority of the time - just those 2 days... so thought I'd be more likely to manage it. I'm not overweight I'm just bigger than I was when I got pregnant with my DS so I'm aiming to get to that weight and to lose some body fat in the hope that as that weight was a good weight for getting pregnant back then, maybe it will be now too...
had a bit of a shitty morning, just got a message from a friend to say that a mutual mum friend of ours is pregnant again - with her 3rd - an accident supposedly! 'Hardly ever do it these days' I'm told... 😠😩. It is just so hard when people with children the same age as my DS have siblings galore now but my gorgeous wee boy who is so bloody lovely to babies doesn't have any despite desperately trying. I know that I'm so so lucky to have him, and that secondary infertility isn't the same as primary, but god it is still so so hard... 😢 x

I'm okay thanks Bee! Scan is next Thursday - counting down the days, it'll be such a relief to have confirmation that everything is progressing as it should be. Hope you're okay!

Good luck for tomorrow Silver - will be thinking of you!

Hope you're okay Hobbes, pregnancy announcements always seem to come at the worst times!!

Hope everyone else is doing okay! xx

Hello everyone. Let me know what your consultant says about pre-Implantation genetic screening Bee, I'd be really interested. Ours is an evangelist for it, while it seems that others are more sceptical, as it's a relatively new treatment with a small number of randomised control studies.
Some doctors say the testing can give false negatives or positives, because some healthy embryos have a few abnormal cells.
We have high hopes though. AF arrived at the weekend, so tomorrow I have my scan and start medication ahead of my FET.
Good luck everyone, love reading your updates.
Stay strong. We will all get there! X

Hello all. Haven't been on this board for s while as have been trying to think of other things. Have just caught up. Am so sorry for those who've had bad news, especially Hope - what a terribly cruel blow. I hope that the EPU have a plan for you which will bring this to an end swiftly so that you can start to heal and look ahead.

Hobbes and geeup, I am having the same problem as you re no period. Starting to worry as today is day 35 for me and normally I'm regular at 28 days. I have absolutely no feeling that I'm about to come on, either. Is it normal to be this late? Clinic said nothing about it. It's starting to drive me a bit crazy.

Gah! Just typed a long update on my phone then lost it. Thanks to everyone for the well wishes for today. I'm relieved to report all was well and I heard a lovely heartbeat. Still a long way to go by today I'm pregnant.

Sorry AF hasn't made an appearance wanda. Can you call the clinic for advice?

Kudos on the 5:2 diet hobbes; I'm a terrible dieter and wish I had more will power.

Good luck for Thursday nemo and waves to everyone else

Congratulations silver, wonderful news

Hi Silver - that's brilliant news! Hopefully you can relax and enjoy it all a bit more now! I'm on a fast day today and despite having just eaten my lunch, I'm so desperate to go eat chocolate...!! 🙊

Such good news silver what a relief to hear that tiny heartbeat I'm sure. Keep with the meditation, it seems to be doing you well. Best wishes!

Stay strong hobbes, chocolate is evil, ha ha! Good luck with rest of fast day today.

Good to hear from you again wanda. Hope AF arrives for you soon.

Congrats silver. That's lovely news. I must get back on my meditation...

Hi all. Have not been on here in a long time due to getting over the complete and utter failure that was my last cycle. My head is in a better space now and we are looking into a third cycle. In the meantime, I've had my bloods retested - as even the Dr was surprised by my poor response in March - fingers crossed my ovarian reserve remains OK (find out Friday).

Really sorry to hear about the BFNs on this thread. And Hope so sorry about your recent news. Like Hobbes I was happy that at least one of us from the Nov/Dec group seemed to have a "win". Massive hugs. xx

And good luck for those of you with BFP. x