IVF June 2017

[Avocadosmoothie]

Hello, is anyone due to start IVF In June? My consultant has put me forward to start IVF, my next appointment is April 26th and if I start on long protocol I would start stimms late May and egg retrieval would be mid June. Would love to hear from someone on the same path!

Hi all, hope everyone is doing well.

Katherine, I'm so sorry about your update, I really hope you are okay and the frostie will be your baby.

Bluberry, amazing results. Hope you don't have to wait long for your fet!

Bee, the bloating sucks doesn't it! I can't wear jeans atm.

Vox, gosh this ohss seems like such a pain! It's good that the hospital are keeping a close eye on you though, fingers crossed you won't have to be admitted. Feel for you about the extra needles!... on et day I was told that following a positive a result I will need to start daily injections of blood thinning medication for the whole length of pregnancy.

Avocado, it's really what you think is best regarding testing early or not. I was trying to hold out until 9dp5dt but I caved and tested the evening of 7dp5dt and got two visible lines okay. This was 6 days sooner than my clinic's otd. See how you feel tomorrow morning and I would go with an early detection test if you do decide to test early though.

Mrsdarcy, good luck for tomorrow! Hope all goes well for you.

Macarena and veinarde - what is the next step for you both after your bfp? Are you due for a blood test or scan?

I'm due to call my clinic this Friday and my information guide mentions that I will need to order more pessaries up until 12 weeks and book an ultrasound for around 3 weeks from Friday. No mention of a blood test though to confirm pregnancy - do you think that's okay?

Best wishes to everyone xx

Katherine, sending you lots of hugs! Perhaps there is still a glimmer of hope this cycle? Take time to relax and clear your mind xx

thevox sorry to hear your OHSS is still there! I heard it gets worse in case of positive result. Hoping you get better soon to fully enjoy your pregnancy! Xxx

avocado good luck with testing! I was very determined to test on 9dp5dt as I was sure it didn't work, so didn't want to get upset in advance. I am keeping everything crossed for you!

Lauralife I didn't have a blood test. My clinic didn't mention anything either. I tested today again to make sure it's still there :) I have no symptoms and it drives me crazy!!
in terms of pessaries I was told to stop as soon as get a positive. I was worried about it as I heard most continue up to 12 weeks so I researched it - apparently no evidence it is necessary past positive hcg surge, many clinics do it to be on the safe side. I am still on Metformin which I reduced to one pill at dinner time only (without doctor knowledge) as it really upsets my bowels.
I'm going to see my GP on Thursday (I will be 5 weeks then) I will ask for an early 7 week scan, to make sure pregnancy is in the right place & not ectopic.
Otherwise I am back to my exercising routine, which I now refocused on strengthening the back muscles!

Blueberry1 congrats on 3 frosties! Hope you enjoy nice summer days before getting ready for your FET :)

Mrs Darcy good luck with EC! Xxx

Hello, I tested this morning and got a BFN. I had a hatching embryo transferred 7 days ago and my period is due on Friday so I'm pretty sure the FRER would have picked it up if I was pregnant. Does anyone know if I will be able to do a FET next month? As in, just over 2 weeks or if I have to wait for the cycle after that?

Hi folks. I'm still getting BFN at 11dp5dt so I'm pretty convinced I'm out this time. Blood test on Friday. I am sooo happy to have finished the pessaries, just want to get my body back to normal and we still have a frozen chance when we're ready. After that we've agreed to take a break (unless it works obvs but I'm not feeling hopeful). The physical stuff has been fine but it's such an emotional, and financial, drain. Thoughts with those of you in the same boat and delighted to hear the good news from others. Hang on in there everyone. X

This thread has had so many bfps, congrats to everyone.
Scott and avocado, I'm so sorry and can absolutely relate to how you feel. It's devastating.
Avocado, at 7+5 there could still be hope. But I hated people telling me that as I knew it was negative. So I totally understand you thinking it hasn't worked. Test again at 9+5, from all my reading that's really the day where the result is pretty much definite. If it is a bfn, and I really hope not, you won't be able to use this cycle for fet. But you can start on the next one. For example I had my AF two days before OTD, I'm now day 18 of my cycle and will start medication on day 2 of my next cycle. To be honest I needed the time to grieve and also logistically you need time to plan and get the drugs for the fet. For me the time has passed quickly, almost too quickly!!
I'm so sorry Scott, I was thinking of you as you hadn't posted in a while. I hope you can decide on the best time for the fet, take your time. I have found the sadness comes in waves but most of the time I am now excited about the fet.
Hugs to all xx

Also, Katherine, I'm thinking of you and keeping everything crossed. This is emotionally so so tough. Xxx

Hi all, I've woken up this morning with a very sore ' toothache ' feeling in my calf. I still have it 6 hours later so I called my clinic to explain the circumstances. (There's a family history of pregnancy thrombosis- so it is part of my treatment plan after a positive test to start blood thinning injections).

So anyway I spoke to the nurse and I think they were unhappy with me testing early, my otd is this Friday 13dp5dt. I'm still testing positive today at 11dp5dt. The nurse explained that the positive may be hcg still in my system from the trigger so a false positive.

My trigger shot was 18days ago now - do you think that there is a strong possibility I still have it in my system? I'm sure some clinics go from 9dp5dt as their otd. I'm a bit worried now - I only called as I was concerned about my leg. (My mum literally almost passed away with her pregnancy because of thrombosis).

Hi Laura, no way that could be trigger. You got a grumpy nurse! 😁 Hope your leg is okay, could that happen so early on? Glad they'll be monitoring you x

Laura - if it could still be hcg, surely other clinics like mine wouldn't request you test 11dp5dt! It sounds promising, although it sounds like you'll be joining me with the daily blood thinning injections (I'm on Fragmin). Personally I think you should call again and ask to speak to the duty doctor this time.

Thank you for getting back to me Scottish and vox. I appreciate your quick responses.

Scottish - I hope it was just that. I was quite confident that I had dodged any potential trigger hcg before testing but that telephone call had me doubting myself completely. Yes surprisingly there is a chance of blood clots forming quite early on with me. Pregnancy increases clots slightly as does IVF meds (still only 4 in a 1000 cases- I think). However, due to the family history mum,grandmother they want to try to eliminate it early before it could potentially start.

Vox - Yes that's what had me so confused and upset! It's so bizarre how every clinic's OTD is different. My gut instinct is that it is a true positive after all this time. Just keeping every crossed until the 7 week scan now.

I've spoken to the clinic again and have been prescribed the injections now by an IVF doctor. I think I have to wait 2 days to collect them though (after I have confirmed another pregnancy test on the official OTD). I was also told to see GP tomorrow morning, have my leg checked over and possibly start injections straight away with them.

xx

Just checked over recent posts that i've missed.

Scottish, glad to hear time is going quick for you. Cd 18 has come around so fast! I think I remember reading that FET are stronger than a fresh cycle. I really hope you are next for a BFP :).

Avocado and Scott, sorry to hear about your updates. I hope it's not over yet for you both and if FET is the next step for you I wish you all the best.

Best wishes to everyone, so grateful that this thread exists xx

Egg collection day today and I ovulated early so of the 14 follicles only 3 eggs were remaining, 2 mature.
We have severe male factor so just willing icsi to work and for us to get a fertilised embryo to transfer.

Awe Darcy that's bad luck, I thought the drugs suppressed your natural ovulation. That's what I was told when I was freaking out about that happening early on, but I was down regging on long protocol so that might be different to you? Good they got some though. It's quality not quantity as has been proved elsewhere in this thread.
Thanks Scottish and Laura. I'm doing fine really, used to the disappointment by now and chances were always slim. This thread is definitely defying the odds though! Hope your leg gets better soon Laura that sounds grim, and boo to your grumpy nurse. X

Hi Scott, yes I'm on long protocol too and the drugs are meant to suppress your own hormones so that the clinic can control ovulation but in very rare cases unfortunately the body Over rides it and ovulated when it wants which is what mine did. Just lucky there were any left at all really and hoping so much they have fertilised.

Mrs darcy, that's so unlucky! Thank goodness some were left! Have you had a fertilisation update?

I've not tested again this morning. I'm going to test again on Saturday but 99% sure it's not worked. I've seen so many negatives I can't imagine seeing a positive. I am worried about my chances now though. The doctor told me everything was on my side for this transfer - age, top quality hatching embryo and perfect lining. I feel very pessimistic that if that didn't work, a FET with lower success rates isn't going to work!

It's good and bad news. We have one which fertilised. But, they were not happy with the quality of the sperm when preparing it for icsi. They picked the best they could find but they think it was very abnormal. So they are going to keep the embryo out in the lab till Monday and then if it survives transfer it on Monday. But if it doesn't survive then they said we need to have a talk about future cycles and the sperm source ie donor.
She said tomorrow it should be 2-4 cells and if not then they know it is game over before Monday even comes.
So it's bitter sweet really. Glad we have one but that one may not survive and if it does it's the only child we will ever have together

Try not to despair avocado, it has to be down to luck more than anything. Even people who have no issues don't get there straight away. I'm in exactly the same (but a bit older) boat. Whose to say the next time won't be the one... I'm going for my blood test tomorrow. Fed up looking at one line on a stick. No AF yet but I'm pretty crampy so reckon it's enroute with a vengeance! I think I need a normal months cycle to regroup with my body before trying FET. X

Aw darcy I'm sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed yours does ok. X

@avocadosmoothie - sorry to hear you're getting BFNs . I think the difference in success rates between fresh and frozen cycles has narrowed quite a bit (see: www.accessfertility.co.uk/blog/frozen-ivf-success-rates/ and www.advancedfertility.com/blog/which-is-better-fresh-or-frozen-embryo-transfer-for-ivf/), so don't lose hope! Also, remember that the frozen embryo could happen to be a more viable one than the one used in fresh transfer, you never know.

I am now thinking we should have done a fresh transfer, but as we were almost sure we'd do PGS, (but then didn't), we didn't discuss it. In any case, as I had to be stimulated for quite a bit longer (5 days?) than expected before egg retrieval, we were on holiday when fresh transfer would have been done.

If none of the 3 blastocysts for FET implant successfully, then perhaps on 2nd cycle (we paid for two upfront) we should do a fresh transfer then PGS any remaining embryos? DP now getting a bit impatient because we now have to wait for FET. I think after 18 months of TTC, he just wants things to be over either way (he's already a Dad, so not as keen as me).

@MrsDarcy - I didn't know that drugs don't always work to stop ovulation; sorry to hear that. We used ICSI too, because DP's motility was a bit off. Hope very much that your embryo makes it to blastocyst stage.

@Scott - it's not over til it's over. But you may know your body well enough.

Mixed day for me today: this morning I had a scan which shows I'm recovering from the OHSS and we also saw the gestational sac...

This afternoon i got made redundant. I'm in bits. Trying to be reassured that stress doesn't cause MCs but I'm in such a state!

The vox I'm so sorry, extra stress is not what you need but you are right it's unlikely to cause miscarriage just not what you need.

Our one embryo was at 5 cells today - day 2?/9 please although long way to go.

I've been out tonight for in laws anniversary. fab music and food but I have the absolute worst PMT. is this normal? Normal cycle wise I'm 6 days away from af so I'm worried my body is gearing up to that despite the progesterone. Can anyone reassure me? My husband has man flu and I literally could kill him if he coughs pathetically once more 😡

@MrsDarcy, right after egg retrieval, I had some AF like cramps and my boobs were a bit swollen. Then I got my usual PMS symptoms (swollen boobs, hormonal acne) followed by AF on same timescale as if I hadn't done IVF ie 12days (normal luteal phase) after trigger shot (equivalent to ovulation?).

If you're taking progesterone (I wasn't) then it's not surprising you have PMS symptoms, as it's natural production of progesterone in 2nd half of your cycle that causes those symptoms.

Vox, sorry to hear you've been made redundant. Do you still have chance to get maternity allowance if you can find a new job?

For those who got negatives this time, when did you stop taking your progesterone pessaries? I've got my period now so it's definitely over but the nurses said I should keep taking the pessaries... I don't really fancy it!

So so sorry avocado, please feel free to pm me if needed. I know exactly what you're going through. I stopped the pessaries when my period arrived. I did one final test to be absolutely sure. It was two days before OTD. It would have felt ridiculous and insulting to keep going with the pessaries. Hugs to you xx

Sorry vox, hope you are doing ok with your bad news about work. That's a very stressful thing to go through xx