December/January 17 cycle buddies

[HelloMist]

Is anybody else about to start a cycle?

I start down regging on boxing day! I could use some company.

Oh Tiny, I'm so sorry about the other embies. That's gutting. Totally understand how you're feeling.

Allow yourself time for the anger and upset to come out. You're allowed to vent as much as you like on MN. That's the beauty of it. We're all here.

All I will say is that there is still one wee embie on board and it's going to need all the positivity and strength you can muster so channel that into it whenever you're ready and let's all hope that it sticks.

I also really hope that after what happened to your little boy, they'll watch you so carefully throughout the whole process to make sure nothing like that happens again.

Sending huge hugs. xx

Thanks Spread ❤️ xx

Tiny first let me say - woohoo you are PUPO!!! :D

now let me say how sorry I am for all the upset you had last time and what happened to your little one. and because we are IVF twinnies, may I remind you that the reason I am even going through IVF is because my doctor misdiagnosed me and literally forgot to check my blood test results which resulting in me almost dying and only just making it alive - but losing my tubes in the process (although somehow they also "forgot" to tell me that my tubes were f*cked and let me ttc for 2 years before I went to a consultant, had an op and was told "your infertile").

so NHS messed us both up and here we are.

sorry I am also feeling really down at the moment so HUGS here xx

Bloody hell wish! That's beyond awful. I'm speechless 😐

It's OK. We are all in our own awful situations aren't we. What we would give to just have sex and boom be with child!

Pants day all round girls - my HCG isn't increasing as it should be so not looking good. Have to wait to see what scan says next Wed.

Sending you all hugs xx

hugs spread.

Aww why is today so shitty? It's our hormones isn't it :( spread I hope things look up for you!!! Wishing it all works for you I really really do.

Hugs to you all.

I tested yesterday and only got a faint positive (none on another brand). Still faint today and a little brown blood when I wipe. DH is angry with me for testing early and thinks I'm making this harder for us both! I'm scared because this feels similar to what happened in my chemical pregnancy. I hope it doesn't end up the same way. :(

Morning, congrats Hello!! A faint positive sounds very promising. Really hope it's not a CP but totally get that fear. It's your big day tomorrow so only a little more waiting!

I'm starting another bleed which coupled with my non doubling HCG means the inevitable is coming sadly. In a weird way, I feel happy that I got this far, although ultimately it was for nothing. I also feel relieved to just know where I stand rather than have so much false hope.

Have asked clinic for another HCG on Friday just to confirm the position and then we can start to grieve and move on.

Rooting hugely for you guys to have much better luck!! Xx

Mist, like Spread said, a faint positive two days before your OTD is a good sign. Brown blood is old blood so I wouldn't worry. Will you test again today?

Spread I am so sorry. What a journey you have been on! How is it that your hcg hasn't doubled but the pg test went from 1-2 weeks to 2-3 weeks. What's up with that?! Hopefully you will get some answers on Friday but maybe try another pg test?

We've all been through hell and sending big hugs all round xx

I know Tiny!! So done with this weird rollercoaster!

Anyway just confirmed another HCG for Fri morning. If they've not seriously jumped, then it's game over. But glad I'll know.

How are you feeling Tiny? Hopefully better than yesterday.

Wish - put that test down now!! Haha. Just kidding! What are today's lines looking like?

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I stopped testing after that one guys. I just took that test and another. the one you saw was the faint positive and the other one was pure negative.

so then I fell into a depression. I also fear a chemical. My test day isn't until the 7th though which is a full 14 days post a 5 day transfer which I think is a little over the top.

I am having terrible cramps since last weekend. they wont go away! and a left side stich. nothing otherwise.

I have one burning question. With the amount of AF pain I am having, am I to expect my period if this has not worked? I don't know with IVF. normally AF pains with no AF would give me hope, but during IVF no one mentioned if maybe you don't get your AF until you stop the luteal support? :(

I'm feeling ok Spread. Really constipated and find any form of exercise, even really light yoga, unbearable.

Got some good news from the clinic at least: we have been able to freeze 4 embryos! The worst quality of which is a 5BB and after much googling I can see other women have had success with 5BB embies during an FET so feeling very calm about things now.

Wish - I was having on and off cramping the whole time during my positive first cycle so that could be a good sign!! AF won't come while you're on progesterone. If it turns out to be a negative on OTD (fingers crossed this is not the case) then the clinic will tell you to stop progesterone and AF will come 2-3 days after that. Well that's what happened with my failed FET anyway.

Tiny, thank you SO much for your reply. This has been my biggest burning question! I have been embarrassed to call the clinic to ask and also cant be bothered with the waiting time on hold to get through to a nurse lol.

so on a negative cycle we are saying you could be cramping because your period WANTS to come but cant due to pregestorone maybe?

anyways I have decided to test again tonight. If darker than two days ago when I posted here, then I will use fmu tomorrow. if negative, then I will call it a day and say we have failed and get on with my life.

4 embies is fantastic Tiny! I was actually thinking about you last night in bed lol. about how many you had collected and only one was viable. so so good to hear you got another 4! now they can be frozen with my 2 that were frozen and we can carry on being ivf twinnies :D

I was crampy on my positive cycle and I think that was down to my uterus starting to stretch and adjust to the growing bean inside. So AF cramps not necessarily an indication AF about to happen.

On my negative cycle I was unbelievably anxious, like PMS on steroids (or PMT whatever it's called these days). I was so highly strung and I think that was my body gearing up for AF but was getting angry it couldn't because of the progesterone 😂 Don't recall being particularly crampy with the failed cycle, just had next level PMS anxiety.

BUT... every body is different so don't want to say X definitely means Y. You'll just have to hold out to see if the pg line gets thicker/darker 😓😓

yes googleing around has definitely told me that, that what is a BFP sign for one person was a BFN for another.

basically NOTHING you feel means anything

I don't think it's true that period can't come on progesterone. Maybe less likely to, but it can. Don't know for sure it's AF yet but I've got red blood. :( I think last, unsuccessful, time it started before I stopped drugs too. Just cramps could be fine though.

Tiny glad to hear that you did get frosties! Takes off the pressure slightly to know you have those.

I definitely had what appeared to be my period (came exactly on my due date too and pretty much identical to normal AF) whilst taking progesterone pessaries... so I think it can come.

Am having really acute cramps now - so painful I even had to leave work and wasn't sure I would make it home without doubling over in pain ... definitely a miscarriage happening I think - not had a pain like this before.

Madness really - was none the wiser and totally felt pregnant (and was!) yesterday morning - today, it's all change.

Tiny - fab news re. Frosties!

Ah! How confusing! I was told I wouldn't get my period whilst taking cyclogest.

Spread it hurts my heart to hear what you are going through. I don't think there's anything I can say to make you feel better but I'm going to try: take comfort in knowing that your body has excellent quality control - it has (I'm assuming) picked up on some abnormalities of this particular embie and decided it was not safe to carry to term. A friend of mine has the opposite problem - her body has no quality control and carries anything that's implanted; she's had 7 losses around the 12-13 week mark when severe abnormalities were identified in the foetuses. Also take comfort in knowing your body was able to implant the embie and produced enough hcg to become a growing little magic bean so I don't think there is anything wrong with you. It just wasn't meant to be this time around. (I hated when people said that to me after my failed cycle but I do believe that maybe it wasn't meant to be after all)

Mist I'm so sorry to read about the red blood. Do you think it is another CP? :(

I am angry and sad for us all. Why do we have to go through this hell?!

I'm so sorry Spread :( We are here for you.

I'm so sorry Spread :( We are here for you.

Guys. .

Sorry I didn't refresh. Was in shock.

What tiny said is excellent advice. Getting to 12 weeks with abnormalities must be terrible. We are all here for you hunhugs

According to my clinic I should be testing for almost another week . Will they be mad if tell them tomorrow I wander? And still make me wait until the 7th?..

Thank you Tiny - perfect words.

More importantly Wish.... OMG!!!!!!!!

That's AMAZING!!!! So so so happy for you!!

Let clinic know I reckon but they'll probably still make you wait.

I've got to go the EPU tomorrow for scan just to confirm what's happening. Will be good to know now.. and just accept it xx

I'm completely in shock. Like totally can't process it