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December/January 17 cycle buddies

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HelloMist · 21/12/2016 16:38

Is anybody else about to start a cycle?

I start down regging on boxing day! I could use some company.

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wishmeluck16 · 10/01/2017 15:07

Hi Strandy!

Oh gosh I am so glad to read your post! I am going in on Sunday for the first scan. I am also on the list of potential over stimulate as I have a very high ovarian reserve.

I am on menopur. No side effects yet. a lot in my head though.

Work is also making me nervous and I am also having the "what if" thoughts! But I completely understand what you mean about the anxious pit about getting it right! I am not scared of the injections but terrified instead of the potential of getting something wrong! Plus my AF is heavy so any pains I am unsure what they are from :/

TinySalmon · 10/01/2017 16:33

Thanks so much hope. Definitely don't remember the headaches being this bad last time Sad I'll be on my 2ww in Feb so I can keep you company while you're going through IVF x

spreadthelove omg yes. With our last FET I was almost crying because I had a full bladder and honestly thought I would wee on the consultant as her assistant pressed the ultrasound thing on my abdomen.

Sending you. If virtual hugs wishmeluck! It's all so tough.

I always injected in my thighs - I don't have much belly fat and always thought I was going to stab a kidney or something. My thighs on the other hand are full of fat so didn't mind jabbing them every night Grin

SpreadTheLove · 10/01/2017 19:51

Sending lots of virtual cuddles to you Wishmeluck. I honestly felt the same about screwing up the injections but I learnt that it's hard to do anything really wrong. I ran out of gonal on New Year's Day and spent ages panicking. They just upped my dose the next day. I also finally forgot to take any air out of cetrotide one time and injected loads of air in before the actual fluid! Gave me a bad tummy ache but ultimately it was fine.

Strandy, nothing wrong in dreaming about this all working. I'm fighting off the excitement of this actually working as I'm trying to protect myself from the fall of it's a BFN but actually positive thinking goes a long way!

Had acupuncture today - one needle was inserted right on top of my head (OUCH). Designed to make embie stick. Here's hoping!!

Hope2409 · 10/01/2017 20:05

Thank you tinysalmon i am just in limbo at the moment, waiting for my AF to start before i can book in for round two. I dont really fit on any thread so just lurking and waiting! Will be cheering you all on!

strandy i felt excited at the start of my first cycle, felt good to be finally getting somewhere, a step in the right direction. Then after ET i tried to be realistic, didnt want to get my hopes up incase it didnt work. It didnt matter i was still devastated when my test stayed stubbornly blank yet again.
So i say be excited, be hopeful, its a big step and it works first time for lots of people so why shoudnt it for you! Fingers crossed!

spreadthelove i feel your pain too, remember all too well trying not to wee everywhere as they push on your super full bladder!!!

Strandy · 10/01/2017 20:23

Thanks for all the words of support and well done to everyone for managing to stay SANE at this stage.

So many of you have lots of IVF experience and insights - this thread is very helpful. I just did another injection and I seem to be grand. Am donning my fave pyjama bottoms and making my OH unpack the washing machine. 'Bout time he pulled his weight. HAAH!

It's nice to have a flicker of excitement every now and again... I am just so sad inside at times that I'm even doing this. So many people have steamed ahead with their families etc but YES this is proactive - VERY proactive!

Wishmeluck - yeah I have a very high ovarian reserve too and PCO. I am hoping that they will monitor this effectively for both you and I.

Good luck to everyone. Treat yourselves to cosy nights in and remove any stresses that increase the anxiety if possible (I say this as if I am able to do that myself...not so... but am trying!)!!!

HelloMist · 11/01/2017 08:22

Wish and Strandy glad you've both got started. :) Wish big hug, sorry the first one was stressful. I got myself all worked up after one of my injections so do know the feeling! DH talked me down. Thanks for what you wrote Spread (glad to know they can adjust next day if I run out, that was part of my worry).

Great that you're PUPO now Spread! So much luck to you.

Ah, hello again TinySalmon :) nice to see you again! Is it very unlikely that you could suffer some of the same as last time after EC? That sounds awful. Hope they will monitor you closely.

I'm feeling more tired now and less motivated to go places (few days in on gonal F). Have had fleeting nausea and headaches but nothing lasting luckily. I feel a bit bloated already and expect that to get worse. Whatever dates I've seen (best before dates etc) I've worked out the day in relation to the next scan! Which had to be Friday 13th. Hmm will be relieved to make it to that and hopefully hear it's looking as it should.

Hope everyone's doing OK :)

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wishmeluck16 · 11/01/2017 09:19

hey guys, the sad me comes on every morning slightly excited to read all your posts!

Tell me, with menopur, is it ok to put it in the fridge AFTER mixing? I am at work and stressing the office is going to get too hot as the heating is on :/

Divorcingjack · 12/01/2017 07:48

Hi all, can I join? I've been DR since 28th dec, 1st IVF cycle after unexplained secondary infertility diagnosis and 3 losses.

I wasn't feeling too bad but had a proper wobbler yesterday, my poor DH. It's just so scary! I compared it to an exam that you can't revise for, I hate feeling so out of control. Baseline scan next week, but my DH is away on a course so I'll have to go myself Sad. I'll catch up on all the replies later on. So nice to have some buddies!

HelloMist · 13/01/2017 16:43

wish I don't know about Menupur, sorry. Can you ring or email your clinic to check?

Welcome divorced. Sorry that you're feeling a bit lost and that first scan is alone. At least DR isn't making you feel too bad.

AFM, had my first stims scan today. It's looking fine. The sonographer was barely saying anything as she looked and measured though so she kept me in rather worried suspense! Will continue same dose and scan again on Monday. Then they'll decide whether EC on Weds or if I need a few more days.

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wishmeluck16 · 13/01/2017 17:53

divorces, welcome to the thread! I went to my first scan alone, it is by far the least exciting of the whole process so I wouldn't worry too much :)

hellomist, I have my first scan on sunday, but I am pretty sure I am running out of menupur (stimm med). I wander at which point I need to inform them of that? hmm...

TinySalmon · 14/01/2017 20:43

Wishmeluck so sorry I don't know anything about menupur. Hope you found an answer elsewhere though.

Welcome divorcing! I'm so sorry to hear about your 3 losses. Having lost and buried my beautiful son at 20 weeks pg I know the pain of loss.

Slight TMI warning: Does anyone else bleed after a Gonal F injection? I inject my thighs, sometimes there's nothing, not even a prick mark, but tonight as I took the needle out there was a big spot of dark blood. Does this happen?? Did I not inject properly?!

Help! Blush

wishmeluck16 · 15/01/2017 08:12

Sorry tiny salmon, I don't inject gonal f and all my injections are in the tummy.

I am currently in the waiting room waiting for my first scan to see how the stimms are doing. There is a family with 2 kids here. Highly innapropriate in some ways in a room full of women desperate for a child and there is a woman here clearly having her 3rd :/

Anyways wish me luck guys for lots of healthy follies growing or whatever the terminology around here is _

SpreadTheLove · 15/01/2017 08:51

Hi Ladies

Tiny, are you using gonal pen? My nurse told me to keep the button at the top pushed down right until you pull it out of your tummy otherwise sometimes there may be a bit of blood. That might be what happened? Don't think it's anything to worry about but maybe call clinic just to be sure.

Wish - good luck with scan!

AFM, I'm 6 days post my 3 day transfer. This waiting business is soooooo hard! Taking 3 progesterone pessaries daily so I'm sure all my sore breasts and cramps are due to that but you can't help but start to get your hopes up that maybe, just maybe, little embie has stuck... fingers crossed!

Sending luck and love to all

HelloMist · 15/01/2017 12:10

Tiny not sure why it happens but I do see some blood after some of my gonal F injections (in tummy). I don't think you need to worry! but as Spread says, check with nurses for reassurance.

Spread that bit is so hard! It's impossible not to start analysing what you're feeling and wondering if it's a good sign or just down to the progesterone. When is your test date? Fingers crossed for you. x

Wish did you decide to phone the clinic? I would if you know they're open at weekends and you don't think you've got enough to inject tonight. But maybe they will be able to adjust tomorrow's dose if you can't get hold of more in time. Good luck for the scan.

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TinySalmon · 15/01/2017 19:35

How was your scan wish? Yes I agree about children in IVF clinics - they shouldn't be allowed as it's incredibly insensitive.

Thanks for the advice Spread and mist! I think last night I left my finger on the top of the pen pressing down so I'll release my finger as I withdraw the needle tonight and see if that makes a difference.

Spread I really don't envy your wait.... I have the worst anxiety during the dreaded 10 day wait till OTD. When I did FET last October I bought two tests a day (cost me a fortune / should have bought shares in Boots!) but it was the only thing that got me through. It messed me up a bit though because it fluctuated between faint positive and completely blank negative so basically was a chemical pregnancy but if I just left it till OTD it would have been negative and I'd be none-the-wiser.

Don't know how I'll feel this time round.

Who else is on their 2WW??

Strandy · 16/01/2017 09:50

Hi Everyone

Haven't had a minute to update you all on here. I've been stimming now for 7 days.

Scans show 10 follicles including two big ones. They are thinking that Egg Collection will be this Friday or Monday latest. Suits me fine as I've no major meetings at work and will just book a holiday day and say that I've a medical thing to attend.

I do have bad news though... my womb lining is 17mm and too big to implant. They're going to go ahead with fertilisation and possibly freeze teh embryos (should we get any). I may be waiting a while (couple of months?) to get to FET stage.

Does anyone else have information their womb lining or experience of this? I'm so disappointed but also, at least the follicle growth is good and I'm not overstimulating.

xxxx

TinySalmon · 16/01/2017 10:38

I'm so sorry to hear your upsetting news strandy. Have they given you a reason (medical or otherwise) as to why it's so thick?

Thanks for the gonal pen advice spread. No bleeding last night :)

HelloMist · 16/01/2017 12:47

Oh no, Strandy that is disappointing as you were probably feeling excited and ready to go! I hope fertilisation goes well and that it isn't too long a wait. I did hear of someone on another thread having similar but I don't know much more about it. My clinic haven't specified lining thickness unless I asked, so I'm not sure what is ideal and what's too thick. I think today they said mine's 12mm which they were happy with (I am probably triggering tonight, awaiting phone call to confirm after blood test). I had about 12 follicles.

Was debating whether to ask for a general anaesthetic (my EC was painful last time) but have just said sedation: they say they've improved the combination since a few years ago. They say most women are fine with it.

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wishmeluck16 · 16/01/2017 12:56

Hello everyone

Hope you are all well. Strandy I am sorry to hear about the womb lining- I also have no info on my lining at all so don't know what to say about it.

As it is my first time, I am really confused about the info they gave me at my scan yesterday.... here are my results on day SIX scan yesterday.

I have 17 on one side and 18 follies on the other side that are still small (but I only started stimms on day 5 so had only had one injection before this scan).

I THEN have a further 3 on one side and 2 on the other that have grown.

I don't know the sizes or anything but I have 40 in total!

BUT they weren't worried. they said to carry on the dose I am on and come in for day 8 scan and even day 10 scan. so....

SpreadTheLove · 16/01/2017 15:37

Hi all

Wish - OMG that's amazing! With that many follies, there's great odds on a good number fertilising I hope...

HelloMist - exciting that you might trigger tonight. It's honestly fine - hardest part was staying awake as it can be quite late! Really hope EC goes well - I was also so scared but it was truly fine. Try not to focus on your last experience. Sending luck.

Tiny - glad all sorted and no more bleeding!

Strandy - sorry to hear your news. I was also told at my last scan before EC that my lining might be too thick to implant. They then did a blood test and checked progesterone and confirmed it was ok. I had never heard of a lining being too thick but once I started looking it up, I realised it's not that uncommon. Don't worry - the key is that the follies are developing nicely.

AFM - a week today is my beta and I'll know one way or the other whether embie has stuck.... trying so hard to prepare myself for both outcomes... but it's so hard!

wishmeluck16 · 17/01/2017 11:02

Hey everyone how are you all doing?

So went in for my day 8 scan today and basically I am ready for EC! That means trigger injection will be today or tomorrow- eeek!!

So they counted 35 small ones and 7 large follies that they think will have eggs in them! So fingers crossed. Womb lining 10mm which she said was good. I have been reading so much from you all so I was full of questions this time lol

TinySalmon · 17/01/2017 12:05

How exciting wish!

I have my first scan & blood test tomorrow since starting stims. I'm really nervous because I was fine last time and I'm just panicking that they say this time there is a problem.

Have been stuck in bed all day with excruciating headache from Synarel spray. I might go get McDonalds takeaway for lunch as a treat Blush

wishmeluck16 · 17/01/2017 15:38

hey Tiny! oo how exciting! why would you think the scan tomorrow will be bad? I'm sure there will be no problems at all :)

whats the synarel spray? are you on long or short protocol? I think mcdonalds sounds like an excellent idea you go for it :)

TinySalmon · 17/01/2017 15:57

I dunno... I was so excited during first cycle because I was so naive about it all and that's great because it worked but then I gave birth to my son at 5 months pregnant and lost him and then we had to wait for FET and that failed and I just think what's next?! Sad

Synarel is the ovulation suppressant used by my clinic on long protocol. Have to sniff it, each nostril morning and evening, and it gives me the worst headaches imaginable!

It's my DP and my anniversary today! We are going out somewhere fancy tonight and I'll be injecting my thigh in the loos. Oh so glamorous life of trying to make a baby!

wishmeluck16 · 17/01/2017 16:22

aww tiny sucks that you have to inject during you meal! I take all my meds as injections so nothing to sniff.

however mine are all in the morning so I have to do them at work- equally awkward although my boss knows all about it so I inject in front of him!

I am so terribly sorry to hear about your loss during your first cycle. Fingers crossed for you here!

clinic rang me to say to carry on treatment and they will call again tomorrow about potentially me taking the final injection! eeek- cant wait!