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The mind numbing boredom of infertility II

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PotatoesPastaAndBread · 28/02/2016 10:29

This is a thread for peole who really want to get pregnant but can't, who have tried pretty much everything, and are really fucked off about it.

Have you ever nearly punched someone for advising you to "relax", "go on holiday" or "just get drunk - that's what we did"? Well then this is the thread for you.

You won't find much sentimentality here and there's no baby dust, but there is empathy, a lot of swearing and a surpirsing amount of glittery dog shit.

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loopylou1984 · 14/03/2016 08:18

Bip!!!!! Congratulations!! Fx very tightly that it sticks! Moral of that story for us all it step away from the sticks when you know it's too early! (Mainly that is to myself!) Xx

Grumpelstiltskin · 14/03/2016 08:44

Bip that's fab news! Happy BFP to you.

karlafox · 14/03/2016 09:01

bip what great news on a miserable Monday morning!
Fingers crossed for you and Mr Bip x

Fractiousfractions · 14/03/2016 09:12

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loopylou1984 · 14/03/2016 09:42

Are we not meant to put kisses? I always do it automatically! Oops

Lauraqc · 14/03/2016 10:12

I'm definitely sending xxx's Bip that's fab news, congratulations!

I'm at the clinic waiting for my scan at 10.30 - will find out today when my trigger shot is and when EC is. Feeling really positive actually, this week is going to fly! Will update in a bit!

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kiwiblue · 14/03/2016 11:00

Great news bip- fingers crossed for you.

fractious good luck for your meeting-hope you get some answers and some clarity around next steps.

Exciting Laura- keep us updated!

Hope everyone is having a good day.

BipBippadotta · 14/03/2016 11:30

I'm more than happy to be showered with kisses from you lovely ladies!

About an hour after my bfp I started to bleed a bit Confused, but I'm trying not to stress about it - I've had little bleeds around this point in each of my pregnancies (I'm now on BFP number 5...) so hoping that it's not the end of the road just yet. Nothing's ever straightforward, eh?

Good luck with your scan, Laura, and Fractious I really hope you have a decent conversation with your consultant today. Don't let them fob you off & bring specific questions if you've got them. Hoping they come up with a good plan for the next cycle. Glittery shit for everyone.

Lauraqc · 14/03/2016 11:45

Well hardly any follies have grown apart from one which is at 13mm, rest are still a piddly 8-9mm which isn't good enough. Will wait and hear what the clinic recommend. Nice 8.3mm lining tho which is exactly what they're after apparently!

Good luck today Fractious!

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PumpingIron · 14/03/2016 13:24

Hello ladies, very nervous about posting this. I have lurked since Icy started this thread, it has been a source of sadness, strength and comfort to connect with women in the same (miserable) boat smeared with glittery dog shit. Many of you have been through so much more than me, and I truly empathise with you all.

My (long) story: I married aged 36, and we began efforts to reproduce early 2013. I was adamant I didn't want to medicalise our sexlife, and tried not to be obsessive (i.e. kept my obsessive behaviour to myself...). June 2014 I had a scan privately, fibroids but nothing that should impact getting pregnant. Worried about my age, I spoke to my very sympathetic GP who got me on the NHS waiting list for IVF, and after lots of test I was diagnosed with the dreaded X-File "unexplained". First IVF cycle was Aug 2015, during which sonographer found uterine polyps so cycle was freeze-all until I had another hysteroscopy. Date for hysteroscopy was end of November, so while waiting I did another freeze-all IVF cycle privately (££crazymoney). I have 4 blastocysts in the freezer (two from each cycle).

Had the hysteroscopy end of Nov 2015, and waited for period to come in order to pump myself with drugs again in anticipation of embryo transfer. But it didn't come. Just before Christmas, I peed on a stick and there were two lines. My husband and I couldn't believe it. I still can't, despite hideous maternity jeans at 17 weeks.

The point of my story is NO ONE understands how fertility problems affect you, except others who have been through it. It is mindnumbingly boring to put your life on hold (no proper holiday since March 2014, terrible work performance); feeling excluded from all your friends as they pop out babies left right and centre and stop inviting you round or returning your stalking phonecalls; putting up with other people's crass comments about relaxing and getting drunk to get pregnant and other people's anxieties (eg. my mum's) on my behalf; not punching my dearest and closest friends as they as they effortlessly impregnate one another and discuss optimal spacing of siblings; the anger, frustration and bitterness that your own body is defying you; the exhaustion of just keeping going and facing the world every infertile day; the sheer effort required to keep all those feelings to yourself.

And, I am sad to say, those feelings haven't gone away, and I fear they never will. Once you have been on the wrong side of statistics, there will always be (good) reason to focus on what can (and has in the past) gone wrong. During my first IVF cycle, I had 4 eggs retrieved, no OHSS, yet I had a bleed and fluid build up in my abdomen that put me in agony in hospital for 3 days. There is a 0.07% chance of this happening. That was me.

The only people I have told about the alien I am growing are my family and a handful of friends who see me all the time so I couldn't hide it from them. I don't want people to know as I am just waiting for something to go wrong - and being a "geriatric mother" there is plenty that can. I have no plans to buy anything for the alien until he materialises.

So in conclusion, I feel your pain every day infertile friends, and hope for all of you that this month is your last month of waiting for those two lines on a stick.

That was looooooong. Thank you for reading. x

BipBippadotta · 14/03/2016 14:16

Laura I had slow follies too - they extended my stims by 2 days & added Menopur and we got there eventually. Fingers crossed!

Welcome PumpingIron - thanks for de-lurking & congratulations on your little alien Smile. Being pregnant after so much effort & loss & disappointment is fucking terrifying. And I absolutely get it about being on the wrong side of statistics, having been in the unlucky 0.014% who suffer a fatal umbilical cord accident at full term. When the vanishingly unlikely happens, no amount of evidence-based reassurance reassures you about anything anymore. Hang in there and keeping filling out those maternity jeans.

PumpingIron · 14/03/2016 15:02

Thank you Bip, and I hope your little alien stays on board too, fingers crossed for you.

I forgot to add, I still consider myself a militant barren. When undergoing fertility investigations and IVF, the unit was 2 floors underground at the hospital, it was so gross. Whereas all the antenatal and birth units are on the first floor with a lovely view. Keep the barrens in the basement where they belong and can't infect others with their misery and infertility!

And we must all keep applying pressure for full investigations before being launched into the IVF rollercoaster. Who knows if I had undergone that second (and evidently thorough) hysteroscopy sooner, I might not have needed to have any IVF at all, saved the NHS and myself £1000s.

End of rant.

Pebbles086 · 14/03/2016 17:08

bip I've come to shower you in kisses. Was so happy to read your BFP this morning! Hope your birthday celebrations didn't involve gallons of vodka and loads of fags Grin and even if it did would it matter? All these people who drink, smoke, take drugs etc fall pregnant after one go....fuckers!!
Really hope the small bleed is nothing to worry about and your body is just preparing its self. Have the clinic advised what to do now?
laura great news about the lining. From all the gooooogling I've done isn't the lining the best thing to get right and the follies can catch up with more meds?
fractious hope it went well and you got some answers/clarity (insert kisses)
Thanks for sharing your story pumping it's nice to hear a full story from someone who knows how awful and alienating all this shit is. Congratulations on your little alien baba boy! Hope the rest of your pregnancy goes well. Do stick around and share your IVF wisdom.

Grumpelstiltskin · 14/03/2016 17:51

Pumping thanks for your post - you nail it that after even 'after' infertility the whole thing is still horrifyingly scary and shit and that these thoughts and feelings just don't go away. I was briefly on an antenatal thread last month and my God that's a whole other weird instadiffa world of loveliness and excitement. I'm now (somewhat forlornly, like a massive loser wannabe) watching a thread called Pregnant after Infertility which is ace. Full of people who get it. If you haven't come across it I recommend.

Best of luck with your alien, and keep spreading the militant barren word! Smile

Fx for you Bip. More mindnumbingly tedious waiting and seeing ThanksThanks
Nice work on the lining Laura and hope fractions that your meeting is/was useful.

Once back off hol I'll be booking a consultation to hopefully look to shoving my frostie up there in the next few months once/if I get a bfn (total headfuck about-turn from usual, this being fucked off with still getting bfps) and an AF. Pfft.

karlafox · 14/03/2016 19:26

pumping welcome and thanks for sharing your personal story. To hear those words from an exbarren is a breath of fresh air because you just 'get it'. I swear if I ever got a BFP I am going to die of shock! But I will also be making list after list of things that could go wrong!

Today I had another quote back from fertility2U re the meds I need. They were £300 more expensive than the clinic. What the actual f@@k! Which took it to just under £2000 😱I swear I'm never going to moan about the cost of an NHS prescription again!

Thinking of the rest of you barrentastics on your mind numbing journey to motherhood the other side!

PotatoesPastaAndBread · 14/03/2016 20:06

Hi pumping thanks for sharing your story - I second the advice to seek out the pregnant after infertility thread (link posted upthread here). Sometimes you need people who GET it. But feel free to hang out with us too!

bip what lovely news. Fingers crossed he (they???) hang in there.

Laura I'm sure there's more they can do to get those follicles growing. Best of luck.

fractious how was the debrief? Mine is next week. Suggested questions welcome.

Sorry to be brief. I'm in agony. Still bleeding three weeks after ERPC. Every 24 hours I get major cramps and expel some clots. Pain is worse than weeks 1&2. Went back to doc and she was not very bothered. "It will probably settle down". Gave me prescription for anti biotics but only take if I have an infection - I don't have an infection (no temp, no discharge) so have to leave it a week then I guess ask for a scan to see if have retained products. I'm so pissed off. I want my body back. I want to sleep through the night. And I want a day where I don't have to wear two pairs of knickers and a night time sanitary towel to work!

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BipBippadotta · 14/03/2016 20:35

Fuck me, Potatoes, that doesn't sound right at all. Take the antibiotics just in case. Your doc sounds awful. Could you go to A&E / EPU and demand another ERPC, or at least a scan? I'm so angry for you & so sorry you're having such a shit time.

Grumpelstiltskin · 14/03/2016 21:10

Potatoes am echoing Bip here, I would definitely march yourself down to epu for a scan, stat. Or if they're being dicks, A&E.
I know we're all different but I was told 48-72 hours of pain/bleeding is normal after ERPC, sometimes up to 10 days with a steady tapering of blood loss. If there were clots or anything different to a 'normal period' go to get checked out. Am already down to brown spotting and feel ok. You don't sound right at all. Please make a fuss if you feel so unwell. ThanksThanks

Lauraqc · 14/03/2016 21:29

Thank you Pumping and how pleasantly unexpected for you. Love the fact you're harbouring an alien in there!

Thanks for the link re pregnancy after infertility - handy to know in case I'm ever in that situation.

Got baby bombed when I got back to the office after the scan - I said where I'd been (I've been v open with everyone about it) and her response was that she's got morning sickness. FFS really?

Potatoes that doesn't sound right and I hope you get some more tests done to establish what's going on.

Thanks for the slow follies advice - have got to stay on same dose, start Orgalutran tomorrow for 4 days and then another scan on Thursday. Slightly unexpected - I naively thought I was on the downward curve toward our flight...!

TammySwanson · 15/03/2016 09:59

Bip > congratulations! Fantastic news! Fingers crossed for everything.

Potatoes > I'm pretty sure my EPU told me that if I had clots after my ERPC (or funny smelling blood) they would need to investigate. I consider myself a heavy bleeder and even I only had about a week of light bleeding after mine. Hope you can find someone who can help you - might be worth checking directly with your EPU.

Many thanks to all those down thread who posted about the IVF drugs and the differing prices. I had my final 'fuck off you are too old we can't do anything else for you now' appointment with the NHS last week and DH and I are seriously thinking about doing IVF. For reasons that I won't go into in case of outing me it's a really difficult financial decision but I feel like if we don't try it we'll spend the rest of our lives thinking 'what if?'.

bananafish81 · 15/03/2016 13:33

Lurker unlurking, some of you I know from other threads

I started the pregnancy after infertility thread mentioned a few posts back, as I was fed up of the pregnancy threads full of instadiffers planning their nurseries immediately after BFP and wondering why people were getting early scans and not waiting for the 12 week scan.

Obviously most of them all have a gazillion kids and are chattering about which buggies they will get. Cunts

Unfortunately I will be ducking out of said thread as we discovered at my 10w scan yesterday that our miracle baby (from our second cycle of IVF, having been diagnosed as being in borderline premature ovarian failure at 33 - so the NHS wouldn't have treated me and several private clinics would have refused to take me on as patients because I was too poor a bet and they don't take women with high FSH) had died. MMC. Beautiful heartbeat at 7+1 and 8+5. Then nothing yesterday. Baby measured 9+3 and died a few days ago.

I had the ERPC a few hours later and it's done. Tissue testing will hopefully give us some answers.

So I will be ducking out but I can recommend the thread to you all when you get your BFPs as it's women who actually fucking GET IT. I hope at some point to be rejoining you.

potatoes my Dr told me to expect bleeding and not to be concerned if it was clotty. But it shouldn't be as painful as what you're describing and certainly going on for so long might ring alarm bells. Echoing all the PP to get yourself checked out. Much love. It fucking sucks.

Xxx

Grumpelstiltskin · 15/03/2016 13:59

Hello banana. Good (and, equally, shit) to see you here. Have been thinking of you all day. Hope you're as OK as you can be. Glad to hear you had a swift ERPC, agree that sorting the physical where you can have some control over the shitty situation is a good thing.
Man, we need a glittery dog shit emoji. In the meantime:ChocolateThanks

BipBippadotta · 15/03/2016 14:50

Bananafish - I am so, so sorry to hear about the loss of your baby. Take good care of yourself. Huge hugs.