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Anyone starting IVF soon? Join me (3)

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purplemeggie · 15/04/2015 10:17

Ha! I was just about to post the last message in the old thread linking to this, but I'm too late, we've already filled it up! I'll do the same as last time and send PMs to everyone who's been on the thread recently, but everyone's welcome Smile

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Blackandwhitecat3 · 28/04/2015 21:14

Have had too busy and stressful a day at work to even remember about those blasts on board Hmm, I suppose there's a positive in there somewhere. Time to wind down and relax...and listen to my ovaries zinging away.

Waiting you're on such a cocktail of drugs, I do hope things are better for you soon.

Lucie I'm 3dp5dt, just one day after you in the cycle.

Ha! When I got home yesterday DH informed me that "at 2dp5dt many women think they can feel something but in reality it's too early for the implantation effects etc.etc.". He'd spent the day on google then! Glad he's finally got quite interested and involved, I didn't feel he was listening to any of it (even the doctors/nurses) before.

*Purple" triple check those meds! No point in hiding them under the pompoms Wink

Hope everyone has had a better day than me. Not wallowing in it and kind of glad to be distracted for a bit but I really want to relax and let these cells find a solid new home. Boo...there's no home icon!

But where did that dragon suddenly appear from? Dragon

Shellster52 · 29/04/2015 02:24

waiting, not sure if you recall earlier in this thread when lucie was worried about her egg numbers. I reassured her with a study that showed if you produce 5 eggs or 20, there are only the same number of few perfect eggs in the batch which were the ones your body would have naturally selected to grow that cycle if you were not hyper stimulated with IVF meds. And we've seen that apply in the IVF experiences on this thread. lucie got 7 eggs, cat got 6, my last IVF produced only 3, while you got 16. Yet we all ended up with 2 embryos. So don't panic about going from 16 down to 2 - this is perfectly normal according to the study and these are hopefully your top 2 quality embryos! So I assume you'll get another call tomorrow to say if they've frozen them or are growing them on. Hopefully you will hear that these two are progressing as they should and it will help to reassure you. Keep us updated.

cat and lucie, one more day under your belt in the 2ww!

Blackandwhitecat3 · 29/04/2015 07:03

Half ww completed (tick)! One ww to go....

Edenviolet · 29/04/2015 12:23

Still no call from the clinic, I've sat next to my phone nearly all morning as it was charging. Desperate to know what's going on!

Edenviolet · 29/04/2015 13:44

Totally confused and feeling silly whilst waiting for lab manager to all as the embryologist phones to say they froze two yest and were freezing another one of good quality today and we're continuing to culture others to freeze day5???? I said I thought I only had two left? It's very hard to understand as I think all theembryologists are Spanish and every question I asked she didn't understand and I have obviously misheard her so no idea what is going on ??!!

lucieloos · 29/04/2015 14:06

Blimey waiting can't you ring back and speak to somebody else? Must be hard not knowing!

Edenviolet · 29/04/2015 14:29

I'm waiting for the lab manager to call back and very nervous

lucieloos · 29/04/2015 14:51

Well sounds like it could be good news and you could have more than you thought!

Edenviolet · 29/04/2015 16:24

The clinic called I have three frozen embryos two were frozen yesterday and a top grade 8 cell embryo was frozen today. The lab manager said the other two are now 'arrested' and will be disposed of.

lucieloos · 29/04/2015 16:45

That's brilliant news waiting! Is it day 3 today?

Edenviolet · 29/04/2015 17:03

Yes, but they froze two embryos yesterday, I think she said a 4 cell and a 5 cell and today's was an 8 cell

Blackandwhitecat3 · 29/04/2015 19:29

Great news, waiting. How are you feeling?

Edenviolet · 29/04/2015 22:30

Physically, a lot better just a tiny bit of nausea and a swollen r ovary but mentally I feel quite drained. Trying to take it easy for a couple of days

Shellster52 · 30/04/2015 10:32

How frustrating with the language barrier waiting. But must be a good feeling knowing that the 3rd one made it to freeze. Which one was the fragmented one? I've read that the number of cells is more important factor for determining which embryos will make it than the grade. And your 3 are all the perfect number of cells for their freeze day.

It's even harder for you than the standard woman going through IVF. We would have had them transferred and our excruciating wait would last two more weeks. But you have an excrucating wait for a whole month to see if they a) defrost and b) continue to grow, and then you still have the 2ww!

If you go ahead with the embryo transfer next cycle, we should be cycling around the same time, so you will have me in the 2ww with you :)

Edenviolet · 30/04/2015 10:37

The one with a lot of fragmentation stopped developing so was discarded. The first two frozen on day 2 were good quality and the 8 cell day 3 embryo frozen yesterday was apparently very good quality.

The waiting is the hard bit, I estimate I've got at least six weeks till I can start the frozen cycle. Need to have a bleed then wait for AF and my cycles are often 35days+ so it'll be a while and I'm very impatient (hence my username!) I feel a bit miserable today but that's probably just because of all the medicines I've been on.
Would be good to have company in the 2ww if I ever get there!

Tashab07 · 30/04/2015 12:04

Hi all,

I'm new here, thought I'd post a message as I've just received a call from the IVF clinic to confirm our first appointment! I'm so happy! Been TTC for 8 years and I'm 40 years old in 2 weeks! Diagnosed with Unexplained fertility which is just pants!

Basically I'm just after any advice or guidance you can offer me and what to expect. I'm dreading the egg harvesting the most, so any tips on this would be great ??????

Tasha

Edenviolet · 30/04/2015 13:09

Hi tasha

Don't worry about egg collection! I was terrified about it and it was fine. I had sedation and was out completely for over an hour and had minimal pain after

Tashab07 · 30/04/2015 13:59

Thanks waiting. I've heard some horror stories and I'm a bit of a baby when it comes to procedures. Suppose I had better get used to it, as I'm sure the process is going to be hard. Hopefully it will be worth it in the end! :)

purplemeggie · 30/04/2015 22:40

Hello Tasha - congratulations on getting your appointment. I can sympathise - unexplained infertility is so frustrating, isn't it? I always wanted them to find something that they could fix and lost the will to live a little more each time they perkily told me that each subsequent test had come back clear...

You'll be fine with the egg collection...it's no more than mildly uncomfortable. Mine were both under general anaesthetic and I was a little bit sore afterwards, but no big deal.

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Shellster52 · 01/05/2015 01:02

waiting, so on the 28th, you reported only 3 embryos left including one with lots of fragmentation. But now you have 3 frozen embryos and the fragmented one was discarded. Is that one extra embryo than you were initially told too due to language barrier or am I misunderstanding something. Sounds like you'll be waiting a bit longer than me for your FET. I thought you would start after your next bleed, but you are actually having a one cycle break in between this cycle and your FET. As my eggs are still inside me, I am still going strict on the high protein diet and I can't wait til I get to where you are so I can enjoy some fave carb foods. Hope you take this time out to do the same!

Tasha, 8 years is a long time! The injections and procedures are fine. EC involves a quick injection then the next thing I know I wake up to tea and sandwiches. I have no pain afterwards. It's the emotional roller coaster that I hate dealing with, worrying over how many follicles are growing, if they are growing the same size, how many eggs, hoping they make good embryos... it's an emotional month!

Edenviolet · 01/05/2015 07:35

On day one I was told 6 embryos but the lady I spoke to on day 2 (I thought) said only two left and talking about fragmentation (and I was a bit upset/worried as numbers down a lot after the initial 16) she was so hard to understand. I was then completely confused on day three when another embryologist called and was talking about the two frozen on day two (??) and other ones to freeze that day and two with fragmentation /slow to be left in culture. Turns out they were the ones that were also discarded.

When the lab manager called me she was quite clear about things but the language barrier was a massive problem in the first couple of days, I hadn't even realised they had frozen two embryos on day 2 and I wish I'd understood her better as I'd like to have frozen on day 3 or ideally 5.
In all other aspects the clinic is great but the language barrier has made me really stressed as every question I tried to ask was not understood and I misunderstood what they said to me

Blackandwhitecat3 · 01/05/2015 07:40

Welcome Tasha. I concur, EC is fine, I was completely out under the sedation. Bloated and tender around the ovaries for a day or so afterwards, but nothing paracetamol couldn't cope with. Good luck with your journey.

Lucie all quiet from you. How's your wait going?

I'm just tired, looking forward to the long weekend. Started this week feeling very positive and hopeful, then had a couple of days feeling like urgh this is just going to be like any other 2ww, hopeful then disappointed. Now I'm just "what will be, will be". This week has flown by, so I'm hoping the next five days will too!

lucieloos · 01/05/2015 08:01

Hi blackcat, not doing so well really. I caved and tested early at 6dp5dt and it was bfn. I know loads of women get their bfps by then which is the equivalent of 11dpo trying naturally. I've convinced myself it hasn't worked now and feel terrible. DH and I had a good cry last night Hmm

purplemeggie · 01/05/2015 10:31

Sending a big hug Lucie, but don't be too disheartened. Although many women get a bfp by 11dpo, plenty of woment don't - according to this website, over 1 in 5 don't. My only successful pregnancy, with DS, only showed up on the day AF was due, as a very, very faint line. There's still hope xxx

You're sounding remarkably chilled, Cat - what's the secret? xxx

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lucieloos · 01/05/2015 11:44

Thank you purple it's another bfn today at 12dpo though. I'm heartbroken at the moment. I know it's over for us now. DH and I had a good cry last night. He was so upset, he said he had felt really positive about all this and can't understand why nothing is working for us. It just crushed me. I just don't know how to get through it at the moment x