So free school meals for children of low income familes to be scraped

[ruckyrunt]

and only if you live on unemployment benifit will your children get free school meals

Nothing like not giving any incentive to go back to work then.

This gives those people living on benifit another reason not to work and claim tax credits and working tax credits

it was proposed to give low income fmailies free school meals in junior school.

Its the children that suffer, the little mites do end up going hungry whilst money is spent elsewhere

thing is even when it is free for those that qualify - as the pilot scheme states - there are still parnets that don't claim the free school meal - perhaps because they can't read the letters home form school about the free meals.

There are children in the uk that are hungry and would benifit greatly from a free school meal - they woudld then learn better with a full tummy.

it is all very well saying where is the money coming from - there are better things to cut than food on the table

when I here about chidlren eating frozen pease as they have no food - in the uk and I think why?

moondog - if only it were true

I repeat Rucky-that is absolute crap.

so if you don't work you get
free meals
uniform grant
free laptop with internet access for 1 year
free bike with bikeability
huge reductions on trips abroad
subsidised music lessons
and if you do work - you get

this

Its not the out of work poor that suffer its the in work poor. No wonder this country has a huge welfare dependancy. For many work does not pay.

In work poverty is a huge problem in the UK- read some reports and work within the sector- then draw your own opinions.

moondog-they do- I see it all the time.

moondog - come here and I will take you to where children are going hungry.. let me know if you want to come and see

On adiet, yopu may see peopel who are too stupid to manage thier money-that's a different thing altogether.Peopel in this country have no understanding of the word 'hunger'.

no rucky....you can still work on income support,just not alot,but basically yes,the working poor are worse off

its crap!

Bedtime reading ..............

and that was my point of the thread, they are taking the proposed idea of free school meals for working people, low paid working people and scraping it - they are in some sense taking the incentive away fro people to want to go out to work - better to have things on a sliding scale to help get rid of the benifit culture

Well the in work poor will be hugely helped by raising the minimum income tax threshold to £10000.

It already doesn't exist in many councils for people who are working poor. It doesn't in ours if you get WTC.

So we do packed lunch.

I do think moony has a point, I don't entirely agree with her, but not having them does not necessarily mean a child is destined to be hungry. It's about education and budgeting and parenting to include good eating no matter what your budget.

Raising the minimum income tax threshold will be far more effective as an incentive to work than throwing government money into individual schemes for low-paid workers.

Tax them less so they have more money, and let them make their own choices.

My own breakfast must cost about 6p a day-porridge.

Eggs, bread, cheese, oats.
Cost bugger all.

Moondog- you generalise too much. Perhaps you should walk a mile in their shoes or take ruckyrunt up on her offer. There are people who are rubbish at budgeting yes- but there are some who are very good but cant magic up money that simply isnt there.

Situational constraints means that poverty than be an endless cycle and almost impossible to break out of. Along with an increasing disincentive to work as in work poverty rising its no wonder people want the security blanket of benefits.

Ruckyrunt...the whole situation is going to get worse isnt it? Im off to bed- got a presentation on child poverty to present tomorrow.

excuse typos.....too tired to type!

breakfast clubs are free if you get free school meals....

Onadiet, spare me the sanctimonious lecture.
I work in the public sector in one of the poorest parts of Britain.
I have rubbed shoulders in a variety of contexts with the poorest of the poor and I repeat-there is no such thing as hunger in the UK.

Stupidity.Yes
Sloth. Yes
Ignorance. Yes

Hunger. No

yeh yeh yeh moondog - but on the offer of seeing hungry children you decline I take it as you will be cooking your breakfast and stuiffing yourslef with eggs and bread.

but i guess your not 6 years old either living with a alcholic mother who doesn't like to let her purse out of her sight incase you take some of the money which is needfor the booze - so you run along to school without any breakfast and havn't had more than a couple of slices of bread and marg for tea last night, ucnhtime comes but your not doen for lunch and have no packed lunch like some of the other dc - you ask the teacher after lucnh if she has any biccies - she send you down to the dinner ladies who give you a biccy to keep you going

no mondog your not 6 and your not aware of food povery either as you have food on your table like you say 6 p for porridge you have sthe nounce to get to the shops and buy it and you are lucky enough to not know what hunger means

moondog....being poor with 5 dependent dc,i can only agree with you....

I live in a supposed poor part of the country and TBH obesity is a bigger problem. That and fuckwit parents who spend all their money on anything other than their children.

Rucky, formulate your point a little more coherently please.
I can make out though that you are describing stupidity and fecklessness. Not hunger.

What does it matter why you are hungry when you are? If it is because your parent spends your food money on fags or booze you still go to bed hungry.
And if you think no-one in the UK knows what hunger feels like you you're a moron.