fox attacks

[wagtag]

Does anybody else think there is something not quite right about the so called fox attack in London? I have always known foxes to be timid and certainly not likely to climb up two lots of stairs. There is more to this than meets the eye

OP have you ever lived in London?
I have the foxes are bold as brass.
If there was 'something not quite right' about it we would have heard about it by now, how the fuck would you fake a fox attack!

Yes mint humbug that is a much more rational theory - thankyou. And if it did happen then it is indeed very rare. However if the media hadnt rushed to persecute all foxes and try to create a sense of hysteria then many of us wouldn't feel so outraged. As i said shall we demand a ban on guns because of cumbria or is that a different issue altogether? And does it matter if i'm an old member or a new member i am allowed to have an opinion, aren't I?

wagtag, are you a journalist?

I do have a theory which I've just posted on the other thread.

I admit to being very about this case when it broke, and I am still not convinced it was black and white, but i think there are perhaps logical explanations which do involve foxes but also human stupidity, not on the family's part but someone else's.

flies are native too aren't they? and spiders.

ooops - killed 2 flies this evening and one spider...........and I'm going to get another little flying bugger in a minute as well if it doesn't piss off.

ahh well - I'm damned then

when my eldest was a few months old he was in our kitchen on a baby rocker...back door was left open and i came downstairs just in time to chase a fox away from him.....it was a bit odd as foxes don't normally come into the house.

So do you think all foxes should be killed now then?

So do you think all foxes should be killed now then?

"And does it matter if i'm an old member or a new member i am allowed to have an opinion, aren't I?" It matters because:

If you are a new member then you're probably either a troll or a journalist or some kind of blogger looking for fodder for your piece/blog.

And if you're an old member then clearly you don't have the balls to air your opinion where it will be recognized in your name and feel the need to hide behind a namechange.

"As i said shall we demand a ban on guns because of cumbria or is that a different issue altogether?"

Yes, that is a different issue altogether.

It is pretty obvious you are trawling for something op.

I just want us all to think what to do in a calm. rational way that involves a degree of respect for our last remaining wild dogI. Is that too much to ask for? I know heaps of people in London actually who adore foxes.

"So do you think all foxes should be killed now then?" no, only trolls and journalists of the type that come trawling for information on websites like this one.

No one is saying all foxes need to be killed some are saying that there is a problem with urban foxes in London which needs to be addressed.

I presume that when deer are culled the meat is at least used - is it?

" shall we demand a ban on guns because of cumbria or is that a different issue altogether?"

It's just not a logical argument. When animals reach pest status or become aggressive they have to be dealt with appropriately. Urban foxes are not an endangered or protected species

Whats a troll? Crikey, I would say you're the defensive one.Of course i'm not a journalist. Why would I be?

Troll nah, more like thick jurno who can't write her own article.

Wagtag, I see where you are coming from. A hysterical 'cull them all' response is not what's needed here. It's a very rare for a fox to attack sleeping babies and to have a cull would be rather an extreme reaction by anyone's standards I am sure. After all, when a domestic dog attacks a child we don't see calls for all dogs to be culled.

I wonder why the fox problem only seems to be in London? Or are there other cities where there are foxes coming into houses?

I think people need to remain calm about this whole thing and not worry that foxes will be breaking into houses and mauling their children.

why not. Plenty of them come here.

Chill tbh I'm not sure a cull is the answer, what is is that people need to be educated, not to feed the foxes, to put their rubbish out of reach of foxes, and eventually nature will take its course and the sick ones will die - yes it's sad but it's nature.

The reason why there are so many urban foxes is because we have positively encouraged them and they're not living in the wild in the sense that when there's not enough food the weakest die - there is always enough food and so the weakest survive also. If man stopped interfeering and feeding the fantastic mr fox then it would go back to nature and the weakest would die out.

I dont understand. What information am i looking for? And I did not say the family lied. i said something just doesn't seem right. It seems very hysterical for an isolated incident. Incidentally,concerning the other case of a fox being blamed for an attack, if you do your research you will find that it actually turned out to be a dog.The high number of dog attacks on children is much more worrying

"I dont understand. What information am i looking for?" well now let's see..

a headline appears in a paper along the lines of "suspicions raised over fox attack claims," with various quotes from people giving their "views". Much easier to obtain those quotes sitting on your couch with a laptop and a glass of wine than actually going out into the street and talking to people...

i remembered a little boy was attacked in 2003 when my dd was just a baby. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7807232/Twin-girls-in-hospital-after-fox-attack-at-London-home.html