Didn't know whether to feel sorry for this journo..

[Twiglett]

Sunday Times Article praising older women without kids .. some kind of we can still party piece

made me feel incredibly sad for the journalist TBH ..

Sorry for calling you Bungle on another thread BTW!

We must have missed the irony in this piece, surely? 'Ageing Party Girl'? I can't think of anything more insulting and pathetic, children or no children.

In fact, I think I'll print that article out and, whenever I'm feeling pissed off and ground down by the 'drudgery' of motherhood, I'll read it and remind myself how much worse things could be

When I was a YPG I aspired to the kind of life where I could get up at 6.00 am to do yoga. Now I'm glad of the excuse not to have to.

And to think, AbFab was meant to be a satire!!!

(sorry haven't read thread - and tbh, the article made me cringe a bit because I was this woman before having ds )

If she doesn't feel sorry for herself, why pity her?

Tracey Emin = yuk. She had a couple of abortions, anyhow. Now she wants to be a mother, b/c this is the time that suits her? Well, life is like that sometimes.

Same here Blu..

Always felt sorry for Tracy Emin. She blundered around saying the most idiotic things that I bet she's shuddering at now.

Blu .. I have a feeling a lot of us 'later' mothers (ie waiting till 30's) were this woman before we had children .

Get very irritated by some women who have decided not to have kids but then bemoan the "benefits/handouts"(as they see it) that parents are "given".

I chose to have children, this woman chose not to. Our choices bring their own benefits and disadvantages. I cannot party till dawn anymore and a lie in is where I get up after 7am. However, I am doing a good job (I think) of raising a lovely, happy child who will (I hope) contribute something to society - even if this is just the tax he pays from his salary as an adult which will contribute to the cost of healthcare that all people (including childless) need at some point in their lives.

I think it's time these childless by choice women got off their high horse and started to think a bit more logically about why children can be a good thing - even for them.

I am not including the women childless through no choice of their own in my rant below. IMHO if the benefits of no children helps them to cope and comes to terms with their childlessness then it can only be a good thing.

I don't think anyone has written about why the woman wrote the article in the first place. It was in reply to another article the previous week in The Sunday Times written by a man who thinks every woman over 35 is desperate to get married and have babies and he's fed up that he can't have a date with a woman without her sizing him up as the father of her baby. Unfortunately the article wasn't accompanied by a photo of the man to let us judge how many dates he gets.... It was quite a blunt piece of work, but it was the sort of thing you'd read and think "dream on mate"!! The fact the woman journalist waded in with a scathing reply explaining how much fun her life is without the need for marriage or babies says more about her defensiveness of her childless choice and her underlying desperation to appear fulfilled than it does about the twat who wrote the first article.

I did mention the previous article - and many years ago I worked with the writer. I know he's got a daughter (whose mum is Suzanne Moore, yet - we all worked together) whom he doesn't live with, but I think he may be flattering himself....

Well I'm over 35, and I'm up for just a shag, thanks - I've had all the babies I want. Pass him my number, would you, MI?