MN = Cyber-Bully In DM YOU magazine

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DM Couldn't find any threads about this. Has it been discussed ?
In the papers agin. Shame , if it was 7 years ago then she joined before even most of us. Bit sad.

I read that too. No proper mention of all the supportive threads on here though.

Although, yes it was sad she felt she was cyber bullied. Made me think of Cod.

Cod ?
No, I didn't think of Cod.
But I think the articel has got a point. The competitiveness of parenting is getting bitchy. Not just on Mn but generally, school gates and all. What are we doing to eachother. I don't know. Really I don't.

I imagine 'Sandra' is completely fictional. The DM has run a lot of negative stuff about MN, ever since justine et al asked them to stop nicking our threads and turning them into articles.

Also the 'female (95 per cent), educated (70 per cent have a degree or equivalent) and well off'.

Can I still come on here if I'm only 1 out of 3? I wonder where they get the 'well off' bit from?

Iklboo, those stats are all from the big survey that was conducted about a year-18 months ago.

LOL at the hack being concerned for us all being so lonely IRL and using online sprites as substitutes for 'real' friendships.

I bet it always was though, it's just that people do it online now where there is a record of it all for eternity... or until the server explodes

There are definitely supportive threads, the kind that make you proud to use Mumsnet. But there are also threads where many people say offensive, unacceptable things to each other (quite often a majority "against" a minority) which I definitely consider to be bullying. That's the ugly side of Mumsnet (and, to varying degrees, many RL group situations). So the article has a point about the bullying, but that's not the whole Mumsnet "story".

Thanks policywonk. I just wondered what the quantifier for 'well off' was (so I can dream )

I think it is a fantastic article tbh

God aren't they tired of writing something about nothing yet? THere is NOTHING NEW in that article at all.

Boring.

On MN, same as in RL, there are people who support you and people who are rude to you. THere are people who have differences of opinion that can be quite major and can descent into a bitchfest if not careful - but this can happen in RL too.

I have some very good friends who I NEVER discuss certain things with because we have already established that we have dagger-drawing differences of opinion. Therefore there is a tacit acknowledgement that these topics are never mentioned in order to avoid bad feeling.

I think the biggest problem on MN is when naive or innocent MNers post on AIBU and get shot down (occasionally justifiably, it has to be said) - perhaps AIBU needs to carry some kind of even bigger warning, or maybe newbies should have to wait 3months before they're allowed to start an AIBU thread! That would knock some of the trolling out...

There is also a huge difference between being told yes, YABU and taking offence at being told, and being cyber-bullied.

Many people unfortunately, don't seem to get that.

That's very true Bucharest - and a lot of it will also depend on the poster's tolerance level, although no one can know that at the start so it would be nicer if people trod a little more circumspectly to start with, perhaps.

I thought that we had reached the point where there were tens of thousands of people on here. Of course there are bullies. If you take any sample of society that size in any context, you will find bullies and they are often the loudest and most easily noticed.

'When you?re on the receiving end of so much hate, you can?t just log off and laugh it away.'

can the mners reach out of the computer and bites you? yikes!

i think most of the internet can be pretty nasty - though it's pretty ironic that the daily mail printed that article, have they not read the comments to their own site?

erm - typical misread stats - peole spend more time online because they are alone, spending time online itself does not isolate you..

after all, i could be here reading a book, whilst my kids sleep, or i could be mumsnetting - Mumsnetting is actually the more social activity.

i think it would show very little knowledge of the World Wide Whinge to believe Mumsnet is particularly bad for pack-hunting, quiches, hounding of individuals....

my husbands photography forum has had some terrible examples...

our local paper's website is particlarly awful too

ooh yes southeast - ours too. i have given up commenting on news stories since i am part of the 'pc brigade' but i won't be losing any sleep over it!

what a vague article.
nothing to do with me

God the DM really hate us now don't they.

Do they know we have been infiltrating their comments? Is this their revenge?
DILLIGAF?

Have just sent the letter below to them..........
Dont know if they will print it.......

I was saddened to read the very negative article about Mumsnet. I belong to an ongoing Mumsnet thread which has run for nearly two years for bereaved mums. It was started by one very brave mum after the death of her daughter and many mums, myself included have posted on there and received thoughtful and helpful comments from other mums in our darkest hours. Mumsnet isn't always about " bickering bitching and bullying" It is also about helping people through the most traumatic times in their lives as well.

There is and always has been a lot of good and support on mumsnet, but it does have a darker meaner side, it can be nasty and bitchy and some people do go over the top with the name calling and insults.

I think anyone who thinks/says it is all sweetness and light is either deluded or has never been on the receiving end of the bitch fest it can sometimes be

gosh it's nothing compared to the Daily Mail - any article about women has 400 comments saying how fat and ugly they are and how they need to get to the gym

(so my friends tell me)