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So it's Budget day

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ShadeofViolet · 23/03/2010 11:05

If you were the Chancellor, what would be in your budget?

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MadameCastafiore · 24/03/2010 18:07

I think Brown has to behave like or he will get up and smack DC in the face and then jump on his prone body!

fallon8 · 24/03/2010 18:49

leave alchohol, we,ve precious little else,,,but as Im not a cider drinker or smoker i dont care!!!

atlantis · 24/03/2010 18:50

"I think Brown has to behave like or he will get up and smack DC in the face and then jump on his prone body! "

Yes Brown the thug, what a shinning example of mandome he is and such a great ambassadore for the country, maybe someone should put a muzzle and a straight jacket on him before the election.

ShadeofViolet · 24/03/2010 18:54

Atlantis - you really are a ray of Sunshine.

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ShadeofViolet · 24/03/2010 18:56

Is this you www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00141/Student_141698a.jpg

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atlantis · 24/03/2010 19:01

"Is this you.."

Err, give me a sex change, a red marker pen and bad taste in glasses and hell yes, spot on!

morningpaper · 24/03/2010 19:04

lolol @ Atlantis

In terms of attractiveness, it would be 1. Clegg (for appearing to have considered the finances etc) 2. Cameron (on grounds of shouting "Sit Down" a la Edward Grey in Secretary) and 3. Brown (who looked very dapper I thought nonetheless)

(Do you think that will do for tomorrow's compulsory What Mumsnet Sed articles?)

ShadeofViolet · 24/03/2010 19:08

Nick Clegg has better taste in ties - no doubt.

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Clarissimo · 24/03/2010 19:37

It was a nothing budget, always would be

PMSL at cider as a good SOmerset girl, MP for taunton said its not the choice of binge drinkers- either something's changed or he is outta the loop, becuase when I grew up it was the choice for anyone under 18 who'd snuck a fiver from Mum's purse / got a job at the all night petrol station (that would be DH, the last bit, I was a good girl and didn't drink then).

Dh a bit miffed at the job finding support for under 24's, he's the only over 24 year old on his University course so it seems everyone but him will get help to find a job, and he's the only one with a family to support . From redundancy to the dole queue perhaps?

brockyg · 24/03/2010 19:46

Not a hugely exciting budget, but then it was never going to be was it? The news on the deficit was positive I thought, although I know forecasts can change.

Someone said earlier in this post that there's nothing for families, well nothing taken away and nothing specific given - but I think that's good news. Keep tax credits and child benefit as they are, nothing extra for sure start, but he's not cutting anything either. I for one dread a Tory budget, I find the idea of it truly depressing having lived through the last recession under them. And I don't like personalising it, but having read about George Osborne's lack of experience (even the City are concerned about it), I really worry. Hope it doesn't come to that...

Clarissimo · 24/03/2010 19:49

Me too Brocky but hey ho, we'll just have to wait and see

Nowt for us either (carers / disabled) but we knew that, whilst a wointer fuel allowance would be nice given the amount of rick older people receiving them I know there's no cash anywhere right now and I can live as we are, just not with much taken away. not without becoming an even bigger burden on the state wrt to housing etc, anyway

rimmer08 · 24/03/2010 20:52

how is increasing the tax on private cars going to help? i need mine for work so i can pay towards the fucking system

fallon8 · 24/03/2010 22:24

I wish someone would give Hachet Face Harman, a decent haircut,clothes that actually fit and a smile, she could get it all on her claims form and tax relief, day after day she sits there, looking bloody miserable and grim.I know she is part of the " I dont have time to think about clothes etc" brigade,but please. do the rest of us a favour.But then,I suppose, talking while driving is a bit time consuming too.

CameraLady · 24/03/2010 23:04

Fallon8 you have proved why women in the public eye SHOULD get a clothing allowance.

The nit picking public daily dissect women (and only women) such as politicians/news readers/presenters (well pretty much anyone with celebrity) clothes and hair.

How can any woman expect to find time to please the critics without a team of stylists, shoppers and make up artists?

Can i ask what you thought of Mr Darlings tailoring?

Can you tell me what colour his tie was?

atlantis · 25/03/2010 01:46

"The nit picking public daily dissect women "

I think women disect other women because we notice what they are wearing and either like or dislike it, we think to ourselves we would or wouldn't wear it, when we look at men (in suits) we are either attracted by them or repelled but we don't think about wearing their clothes (well most of us ).

I personally can't stand HH, and I hate that girraffe 'thing' she constantly wears and she did look like a moody old frump today, but sometimes she can look good for her age.

"(and only women) "

Not so, there are threads about male celebs and even shagging GB or DC all over MN, so if it's equality your looking for then you've found it.

WhistlersMum · 25/03/2010 09:22

MillyMollyMoo: how will they know if you already own a property, if you are a cash buyer?

Xenia · 25/03/2010 09:46

I couldn't care less what they wear and it's absolutely disgusting that women in 2010 on a budget thread pick over what female politicians wear. They should get back into their kitchens and iron their husbands' shirts if they are of that ilk.

As for the boring budget it is of abolutely no consequence because there will be an election and whoever gets in it will be changed. I am not too happy that if I wanted to move 50 miles to live nearer a boyfriend I'd have to pay the Government £100k but I'd just choose to stay put instead and the increase to £2m in the 10% CGT entrepreneurs' relief is interesting given it had been thought a move to harmonise the 18% normal CGT rate and 40% income tax rate was more likely. The Tories did well in making those two rates the same but we seem to have lost any impetous to simplfy tax and remove distortions. Thsi is all jolly good news for tax advisers and I suppose I'd rather Ernst & Young partners got cash rather than Brown so there is some comfort there. Unless and until we get low tax rates again tax advisers will do very well.

CameraLady · 25/03/2010 09:53

Hear hear Xenia!!

Clarissimo · 25/03/2010 09:57

Do you mean 100K for stamp Xenia? Is there some signioficant reason you are unable to inhabit a house costing £999,999?

Clarissimo · 25/03/2010 09:57

(But Xenia totally agreed with your comments on apparel)

fallon8 · 25/03/2010 10:12

camera lady and xenia...she could have acess to the best dressers etc in the land,as could the men, for free.
i dont have time to iron and I only look at AD,s eyebrows.I remember when he had a scottish accent too.Clothes maketh the man,look at GB on "holiday" in Southwold. These things are very important, especially with an election,God help us, looming.

sarah293 · 25/03/2010 10:56

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Clarissimo · 25/03/2010 10:58

Bollocks, I am married to an excellent man with no interest in dress at all. Rather that than a proissy self obsessed clothes horse.

Although HB does look a state; I could also describe AD's tie but only becuase I watched clips of him after it was mentioned on here and pointed out that MN were right, it truly was awful.

OK so wrt to stamp etc Peachy's guide as to why I am OK with the way it has been done (bit not everything in the budget, soem minor things really narked me off)

*many people work hard, soem fo thema re very rich, some are middling and quite a few are really poor becuase of carer roles etc.

*The country is broke

*very high tax on high earners is bad if it risks chasing unusual talent away from the UK: we need both the grunt and the entrepreneours

*if the hosuing market doesn't shift again then the economy is stuck

*nobody on the island cannot live in a house under £999.999 in value. That doesn't mean people making a lot therrough sheer effort shouldn't be allowed to have nice homes, just that ensuring everyone can have a home and the economy improves comes before ensuring access to really special housing is given much in the way of concern

*Most people owning £££££ houses now benefitted from the housing market when a 2 bed cost £29k (well it did back home). Their equity was at least part luck rather than all graft

*we have a responsibility to protect the great many people who are vulnerable through no fault oif their own

*people who are genuinely unwilling to supporet themselves don't deserve that sme protection but their children and dependents do

the choice when we have a broke country is between cutting services that keep the poorest and most vulnerable above water, or endsuring luxuries for the super rich. That in my way of thinking is a no-brainer.

*If there were a way of penalising the people unwilling to work becuase of laziness without affecting tehir children etc that would be gold dust and a political holy grail and the super rich could have lots of nice little bonuses with the benefit money saved. Sadly there isn't an answerr to that so far. And chucking anybody out to grass when tehre is a genuine shortage of jobs would be excessively cruel: sink or swim is only OK when there's no weight strapped to your ankles.

*when there are no other options beciuase of a broke country, the rich can take more of a hit than the very poor (and really, being restricted to hoses under £1 mil is not a real hit). The rich benefit too from a buoyant housing market

  • refers to my acceptance that my philosophy is only one way, many will agree with me (they ahve yet to see the light LOL)

And the bit that annoyed us is the restriction of post uni support to under 24's: Dh is the only over 24 on his course, he now faces a distinct disadvantage due to everyone else on his course getting help wrt to job searching- in what way did being a bit older, having a family to support and tackiling compulsory redundacy head on with retraining make him less deserving?

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Clarissimo · 25/03/2010 10:59

HH not HB

HB is my ds2's teacher

sorry

Clarissimo · 25/03/2010 11:01

'many will agree with me (they ahve yet to see the light LOL)
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many will not agree with me

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