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Did anyone read this article in The Times yesterday on the London bombings?

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oliveoil · 14/07/2005 09:51

I think it is spot on, what do you think? It's a bit long.

here it is

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snafu · 14/07/2005 13:06

'these people'. Because they're all the same, aren't they? Sheesh.

beatie · 14/07/2005 13:06

Quite a few of the dead aren't central Londoners anyway are they? Lots of home county commuters seem to have been killed so it's not just a London thing.

northerner · 14/07/2005 13:08

But surely we left ourselves open to these attacks because we have such high levels of uncontrolled immigration and because they are allowed to hide away in thier own communities and because they are allowed to visit mosques and listen to the likes of Abu Hanzer(sp)and various other muslim clerics who speak of killing englishmen

fishfinger · 14/07/2005 13:09

I msut saY i ahev never ha d a close asian friend
black yes chinese yes
never asian

kissalot · 14/07/2005 13:10

totally agree northerner

whymummy · 14/07/2005 13:11

stop blaming inmigrants,the only culprit here is bush and his f***g illegal war,we didn't give in to terrorism we just told bush to fuck right off

oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:11

I think some of you are picking on how kissalot phrases things. Some of you can post articulate ponderings (journalist anyone?) and some of us just waffle on and don't quite get our point across.

Agree with Northener. Clamping down on immigration does not make you a racist either.

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fishfinger · 14/07/2005 13:13

oi oo have forgotten your rl name
hence cant email

beatie · 14/07/2005 13:15

But you'd have had to have stopped all immigration to prevent this terrorist attack since the bombers were home-grown. Born and bred here.

oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:15

Eh? Like I am going to post my name on here? Cat me.

Best regards

Zoella Charmaine Chardonnay Smyth-Jones

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kissalot · 14/07/2005 13:16

How exactly do I phrase things olive oil? Terribly sorry if I am not articulate enough,but I don't criticise people for their poncey intellectual way of commenting

fishfinger · 14/07/2005 13:16

no i mean you email me

Blu · 14/07/2005 13:16

Oh well, Dp's family arrived as part of this 'uncontrolled immigration' - (or was it because they needed his Mum to work as a nurse in a mental health hospital??), and yes, some of his family were forced to hide away because of racist attacks and general dicriminatory behaviour, and many of his family are still allowed to visit mosques and actually have the intelligence and morality and humanity to behave with love and dignity to the people around them, including the whole of my family, but some of you people obviously think that he has no right to be here, and my DS has therefore no right to exist.

I stood outside our building under our banner at 12.oo weeping for what happened, but also weeping because the things that make London GREAT - that we are a truly diverse world city - are being undermined as this sort of stuff comes so naturally to people's minds.

I'm out of here.

oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:17

Bombers were home grown but the immans (sp?) that spout the shite are not in most cases.

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oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:18

am not having a dig kissalot, I was defending you! Ye gods, think I will go and do some work.

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oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:19

er, think you may be jumping ahead of yourself there Blu, no-one has said anything of the sort.

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Blu · 14/07/2005 13:21

they they they.

It's real people.

kissalot · 14/07/2005 13:21

Ooopps.

oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:22

I don't see the problem with the work they.

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binkie · 14/07/2005 13:35

I know what you mean oliveoil about not jumping on the words people use to put across their idea

but "allowed to hide away in their own communities" isn't just a bad choice of words and it's really made me cross - it makes a mockery of the rejection and refusal (remember "no blacks, no Irish"?) that is common immigrant experience

and let's take a poll: who here has invited a local immigrant family over for tea?

dinosaur · 14/07/2005 13:38

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bundle · 14/07/2005 13:38

largest group of illegal immigrants in UK (ie overstayed visas etc): Australians. not "visible" though, huh?

oliveoil · 14/07/2005 13:39

I couldn't invite a local immigrant family for tea as it is a no go zone for me unfortunatley and I would be lynched in that area. A small minority of idiots rule.

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binkie · 14/07/2005 13:39

exactly, dino

dinosaur · 14/07/2005 13:40

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