Did anyone read this article in The Times yesterday on the London bombings?

[oliveoil]

I think it is spot on, what do you think? It's a bit long.

here it is

I don't think Kissalot has expressed her views in quite the right way, but I think what she is trying to put across is that although the London bomb attacks have superficially at least provoked a feeling of solidarity and togetherness, they have also made in some way each and every one of us a little more suspicious of everyone else. It has served as a reminder that we don't really know that much about anyone else and that this could happen anywhere, regardless of area, community, prevalent religion etc.

I live in Oldham ()and have been told of a horrendous incident when the bomb went off in London, a small number of asians cheering and whoopping in their cars, celebrating. But I would not tar the whole community with this bunch of brain dead idiots. SOME of the muslim community do hate us, but MOST of them do not. You cannot blame immigration for the tragedy in London.

@ kissalot

Ummm, wasn't Guy Fawkes Spanish anyway?

That explains it then - it was his heritage.

I saw enough images of the Baghdad suicide bombing on TV last night. We saw the atrocities in Beslan all too graphically. If there are fanatics who despise children so much there's not much hope is there?

I'm not trying to blame immigration for these events, but it is a situation that shouldn't be happening IMO. Surely there is the slightest link though - these people were of Asian descent, these people are all muslims (yes I know they are not all crazy mad fanatics)

Anyway I think I'll shut up now coz I've upset some people.

hey, oliveoil, I am so glad you changed your mind ... I was feeling a wee bit grumped that the thread had whooshed on to other matters after my so-carefully argued defence of the silence idea

I went into the big open squarey thing in Moorgate, several hundred people - bit that made the biggest impression was the end, when this huge silent still crowd sort of shook itself back into life. Very intense but solemn feeling of life-goes-on.

I totally understand why we have become targets for Muslim hatred! And the US! And previously the IRA.
Foreign Policy anyone!

Disclaimer: I am in no way advocating terrorism as a means of demonstrating your wrath.

I am not too big to admit when I am wrong!

x

No, Guy Fawkes was also from YORKSHIRE! see here...

So where on earth did I get Spanish from then? Must be the heat

I just find it so hard to beleive that their hatred for the Western World is not known by the rest of their communities.

If we're not going to crack down on immigration we should at least start by cracking down on the Muslim clerics who deliver speeches inciting violence and hatred against the Western World.

The story of some muslim cheering after finding out about these attacks makes my blood boil (I remember seeing reports of this after 911 also)

I love this country, I value my freedom, the education it provided me with and the NHS. If they do not feel the same way they should not be here.

I am aware that these fanatics are only a small percentage of the muslim community, but am at a total loss of how to make things better.

I can only see more blood shed ahead.

Does anyone agree with the notion that it is an age issue as well as a "religious" issue.
Disaffected young men who dont "fit" in with the culture they live in - not just these suicide bombers, but also the school killings in america that seem to happen alramingly regularly, the nail bomber over here.
They all seem to be young (ish) men

snafu - I think he petitioned the King of Spain for support and at one point was in the Spanish army

It was the Muslim public who pointed the police in the direction of the guilty.

I agree that the extreme fanaticism needs to be clamped down on and perhaps it is the role of the decent ordinary Muslims to help do this... but then I hear stories of ordinary Muslim leaders being terrorised by these fanatics. It's not so black and white and simple.

bossy
mY point is that london is covering this in such detail BEcause it its on the whole in london
*its was 50 poeple
w *in bhopal it 2as 7000
yes every death is bad but It hink the media are on a frenzy about this becasue
A) its silly seaon
b) its ont heir doorstep

cod - agree with your post.

There was an article in the Mcr Evening News yesterday reporting on local mosques and the leaders there said these fanatics are banned in their mosques but they leaflet worshippers on the way out, so they are forever fighting against them.

On Sky today they said that these bombers didn't fit the usual profile of a suicide bomber - single, young, unemployed man - one was married with children and a job.

Don't know what the suggestion is on how to solve things.

I started a post last night cos i got so upset by what is happening world wide, had a glass of wine too and over emotional pmt - here

thanks you
adn yes I do think that the london based media are intensely paropchial abotu hings that take place in "the provinces"

Agree to an extent re media feeding frenzy, fishy but comment re: Londoners not doing 2 mins silence for anyone else was waaaaaay off.

I can understand people saying 'oh the death toll was only 50' and compared to some things in the world it is a tiny amount, but the bombs in London have entered us in a whole new era of terror in our country, and there are thousands of people and their families with the thought at the back of their minds that something could happen to them on the way to work that day.

We don't know if or when or where they will strike again. Its not the amount of people that died, its more about these scary new times.

did Isay that?
I said htey woudlnt be as intersted