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What do you think about being forced to look after elderly parents? Baroness Deech says we should.

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BendyBob · 03/02/2010 18:41

Here Would you do it? Should you be forced to do it?? Would you want dc to look after you?

I understand care of an ageing population needs more consideration, but no, I think I could not do it nor would I want dc to do it for me either.

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menopausemum · 07/02/2010 22:48

I've been lucky to have loads of childcare from my parents in the past - with 5 kids it's been really helpful. My mum said years ago (when she was still fairly young) that you don't owe anything to your parents, you pass on what you owe to your own children. i.e. I should do some childcare in my turn. - Given the choice of a needy widowed mother which is what I've now got or my sons screaming baby I'm not sure which is worse - at least I wouldn't be expected to keep the baby living with me. Think I'll emigrate whilst there's still time.

3littlefrogs · 08/02/2010 12:23

Jeee - even if your parent(s) are in a care home and you have sold everything to pay the fees, and social services have got all their savings and pension, you still have a full time job keeping an eye on the care home.

You have to check the laundry, because their clothes go missing. You have to deal with hospital appointments, optician appointments, chiropody, memory clinic, hearing aid clinic, batteries for hearing aid,dental care - the list is endless.

You have to visit regularly to make sure that staff are reminded frequently that hearing aids need to be worn and have batteries in them, in order to be effective. You have to constantly check that your relative is being cared for adequately.

Every time anything happens, the care home will be on the phone asking you to drop everything and go.

It is still a full time job IME.

God knows how old folk with no family nearby survive.

thedollshouse · 08/02/2010 12:32

This makes me feel very uncomfortable as we are not in a position to care for our parents either financially or practically. We would not be forced to care for my parents on a practical level because they do not live close by and our house is already bursting at the seams. If we were forced to financially support them this would push us over the edge and I would have no option but to divorce dh. I wouldn't be forced to contribute on my earnings alone as I don't even earn enough to pay NI.

Mybox · 08/02/2010 12:36

What about daycare for the elderly?

bosch · 08/02/2010 12:48

I once read an article about a woman who gave birth to a severely disabled daughter and gave her up for adoption because she couldn't look after her. Feel it has interesting parallels to the many points being made here along the lines of 'obviously I wouldn't be capable of looking after my parents as I lack the skills'.

I agree that in the later stages of life there may be medical problems that we couldn't cope with and require proper nursing care. But, eg, my dad has Parkinson's and couldn't cope at home if it wasn't for my step-mum. If she wasn't around, I'm sure I could do the same things that she does.

I have made many financial sacrifices in order to have and keep my children. I guess the Baroness is suggesting that the state ought to equalize that financial relationship.

If I was a MN grandparent, I think I'd be really sad at the comments on this thread. I think I'd like to be able to 'refuse' my children's offers of help in the future, rather than take it as read that they have no intention of helping me in later life...

Note also that the article implies that we ought to be financially responsible for our parents - so if they've brought you up, given you a good education and set you off in life in a high falutin' career, you can just put your hands in your pockets if you don't want to get your hands dirty . On the other hand, if you are dirt poor, they'll have to rely on the state instead.

defineme · 08/02/2010 13:34

I fully intend to do this for my mother if she needs it and she's looking to move to the street next to mine at the moment (lives 200 miles away at the moment).

I have had it in mind since we lost my dad 11 years ago. Seeing my mum so vulnerable made me realise that it was my responsibility if there comes a time when she can't cope.

My older brother wouldn't want to and though he's lovely he is a bit feckless so I'd prefer it was me.

I do have the advantage of a frank relationship with my mum. I can say exactly how I feel about anything and we will eventually reach a resolution. I have had to work on that though.

Ideally she's live in sheltered housing and I'd go every day, but she's welcome in my house if necessary. My ds1 has special needs that may mean he's always with us, but we'd fit them in as long as the other 2 move out!

I have no issue with wiping bottems or anything like that.I did work experience in an old people's home when I was 14 and they put me in the incontinent section. If I can wipe stranger's bums I can do my mum's.

My inlaws are another matter. Would they want me to care for them in a personal way? I'd certainly visit them every day, doo laundry and so on, but personal care? My dh would do it if they'd let him, but I'm not sure if they'd let either of us do it. They have enough funds to pay for carers so I imagine they might prefer that.

We have the wonderful eg of my mil who looked after her mum (not in her own house though) for years, despite her mum being a deeply unpleasant women. She and fil did it because they have a deeply ingrained sense of duty. They'd no more not care for their family, whatever their disposition, than they would step over an injured stranger. Great Gran made everyone's life miserable for years, but when she was frail and old someone had to look after her and sort stuff out.

We have had a lot of babysitting, though never childcare as we didn't need it. I don't think they really did it out of a sense of duty-they do it because they adore their grandchildren. I am really lucky. I do tend to ask friends instead though because I don't like pil to stay up late and I want to see my mum when she comes to stay.

There are so many exceptions to this situation that I fail to see how it can be a matter for the law. I do think that perhaps it's the kind of thing that people need to be encouraged to talk about and plan for. I really need to get dh to talk to pil.

I would hope my kids would want to care for me, but I hope that I'm financially secure enough to not make it a n ecessity because they might emigrate or soemthin g. This worries me about ds1-if he never becomes independent who will look after him when I'm dead? His brother and sister I hope, but I would like to win the lottery just in case they can't.

poole2 · 05/03/2010 19:39

I feel that I am under pressure to eventually take in MIL. I am at my wits end and my husband isn't supportive. He just says if I keep going on saying I won't then he might be forced to bring her here. I don't know what to do. I have tried to explain I can't do it.

MillyMollyMoo · 05/03/2010 22:55

MIL has already tried to give me some of her life savings a whole £40k to move in with us and take up half our house and have me wipe her backside for the next 20 years.
I have pointed out to DH might have considered it for £400k but not on your nelly.
I guess all her assets will be sold and she'll end up in a home where I'm happy to keep a close eye to ensure there's no abuse but that's it.

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