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BUSH "we will find and deal with the perpetrators" Is this going to mean another war??

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sharklet · 07/07/2005 13:41

Was just watching President Bush at G8 making a statement about the attacks on London saying he was standing by Tony Blair and that the US Gov would seek out and deal with the perpetrators.

Last time Bush was saying stuff like this it was afghanistan and then Iraq. Its got me worried now. DH is in the US Airforce based in the UK. Their alert status has just gone up. They have locked down the base and he not coming home tonight be the looks of it.

Amm really scared this will have long term repurcussions as well as the horror of today.

Emma

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ricecake · 07/07/2005 16:18

Yes well, Bush always talks out of his a*

Perhaps if Bush & Blair, et al, had gone after the real perpatrators, i.e. Al Quaydia and Bin Laden rather than looking for what most people (with a good knowledge of Iraq and Saddam) knew were non-existent weapons (the man had been under the srictest UN sanctions for more than a decade) than what happened in Madrid and London would never have happened.

Bush simply has an agenda which is basically "let's kick ass" and that is in this case, let's kick the weakest and those least likley to be able to put up a proper fight, i.e. the people of Afghanistan and Iraq.

I have been following and studying Middle East politics most of my life, and have not yet come across a single US administration that can actually be bothered to understand the full complexity of the ME. There CIA couldn't even "predict" the biggest event of the last 30 years in that region, namely the Iranian Revolution of 1978.

If they didn't have enough "intelligence" to foresee or even know how to handle one of the C20th centuries most significant revolutions, then how the hell would they know anything about terrorist attacks undertaken by a small group of highly organised fanatics who use mobile phones to blow up buses ?

jessicaandbumpsmummy · 07/07/2005 16:21

Sharklet, hope you are ok. DH is army, but as far as we know at the moment, he is coming home tonight and although alert status is up, things seem pretty calm.

Thinking of you hun

From one mil wife to another x

ChaCha · 07/07/2005 18:31

I too hope that there's no backlash on any individual communities. I am British, a born Londoner, I'm also a Muslim.

For any of you who have the time to read this, i'm compelled post this link. It takes about 30 seconds to load and then you click to play.
I'd really appreciate it if you'd take a few minutes out and watch it:

a message

Nightynight · 07/07/2005 19:26

I hope so too. they are now fingering specific countries, which is always worrying.

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 19:38

For all Blair talks about extremists why cant he see the one standing to his right (and Putin to the left!)They could do the hokey kokey!

GeorginaA · 07/07/2005 19:43

where are they fingering other countries, nightynight? Missed that

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 19:53

The sentiment's admirable Chacha, if a bit simplistic. I wish it wasn't being sung by Boyzone though!

What gets my goat is when Bush constantly goes on about the sacrifices we have to make in the 'war against terrorism'. What has happened today is terrible and horrific, but this has been happening in Iraq every day now for months. It's the Iraqi's who seem to be making the most sacrifices for our freedoms.

I also think it's disgraceful that that phrase has been endorsed by the media. Where's the inquiry?

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 20:02

Teeavee - "london will always be open to those who are fleeing from their tyrannuy to live in a free society"

Who said that? Blair??

Sorry to sound so cynical but that's a bit rich isn't it?

ChaCha · 07/07/2005 20:04

Hi monkeytrousers - you are right, it is indeed simplistic but gets that very simple message across.

It's not just Iraq is it? I won't even start on how i feel about Palestine
What happened today is unacceptable. You just don't expect it here.

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 20:13

I agree ChaCha, it's just reaching out, isn't it.

Am I the only one who thinks that Bush's comments like that are just blatantly racist?

ChaCha · 07/07/2005 20:15

No, you are not alone.

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 20:18

Institutional racism..goes right to the top!

teeavee · 07/07/2005 20:19

no, it was ken livingstone - and I was paraphrasing - I doubt blair would ever have said anything of the sort

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 20:20

Ahh, Red Ken eh?

GeorginaA · 07/07/2005 21:06

EH?! News is saying this is the deadliest terrorist attack on British Soil.

Have they not heard of Lockerbie?!

Not minimizing the impact of this attack... but the UK isn't a stranger to terrorism - am surprised at the headline.

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 21:11

I'm just sometimes at a loss what to think of our media. There were times today when the reporters were almost salivating trying to get witnesses to describe the viscera. Didn't see the Channel 4 thing but it fits a trend.

GeorginaA · 07/07/2005 21:12

Sad and completely unnecessary. It's bad enough without embellishment.

GeorginaA · 07/07/2005 21:34

Heh... they've changed their tack - it's now "worst terrorist attack on a city in British History". Must have heard me shouting at the screen

(excuse my gallows humour)

monkeytrousers · 07/07/2005 21:51

Just watched Blair's speach...Do you think Bush could even say 'stoicism'?

GeorginaA · 07/07/2005 22:17

heh...

ruty · 10/07/2005 15:03

can anyone tell me HOW Bush managed to get back into power? And WHY the world ignores the Palestine issue? And WHY the world ignores Mugabe? I really really do not understand. George Galloway usually irritates me but I had to admire him on Newsnight when he revealed the interviewer for the government line toting sap he was. [sorry if thats getting too personal!] It does sadden me that these terrorists are supposed to be British born tho.

HappyDaddy · 10/07/2005 19:40

We don't know where the terrorists are from yet, so let's not jump to conclusions yet.
Galloway was probably right but he should have kept his mouth shut out of respect for the vicims.
Bush was re-elected because there is no credible alternative. For all Bush's faults, he's shown to be a strong leader and someone who stands by what he believes. The Democrats have a lot of work to do.

ruty · 11/07/2005 10:10

i know`Kerry wasn't exactly charismatic, but the way Clinton's character was assassinated in all his years of office meant they probably couldn't get anyone willing to put himself/herself up. Come on Hilary Clinton, what arre you waiting for?

HappyDaddy · 11/07/2005 10:19

I am amazed that Clinton was impeached because he received a blowjob in his office, but Bush wasn't for sending thousands of young men off to die on a lie.

ruty · 11/07/2005 10:22

yep.

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