Station staff refused to help her carry buggy so she went to the papers. Has she got a point?

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I'm not sure how I feel about this. Part of me thinks there must be lifts for disabled people she could have used but maybe I'm being unsisterly. I kind of feel sorry for the staff who've been blamed and find themselves in the paper.

What do you think?

quinny buzz is a heavy tank of a pram,if reliant on public transport go buy a sensible buggy

and not worth going to papers esp not the scum

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Awww I think you may all be being a little bit mean on her. (Apart from the bit about going to the papers- no need imho)

I am pregnant with my first and have the quinny buzz (ebay bargain) which was probably a mistake (newbie foolish PFB parents emoticon) if I had a newborn 10 week old (which I will shortly-gulp!!)I would imagine I would be still getting to grips with the ins and outs of buggies on public transport (in fact already planning on buying a much better smaller buggy for such occasions- but at 10 weeks would prefer my baby in her pram -have the dreami cot thingy) which is a landrover- and I defo would need assistance to get to my local station but would probably plan trips around whether DH was about to help or whatever. Anyhow I don't think she was unreasonable to ask especially if as a new mum she is having to get used to the behemoth of a buggy that the quinny buzz is. (Lesson learned emoticon!)

I think she lost all credibility when she went to the paper.

Silly woman.

but point is buy a pram you can manage alone if it takes two to lift or you cannot bump it alone, you've bought wrong pram and reason you never see quinny buzz on a bus is they are too cumbersome and large.huge wheel base and heavy

granny bought us a buzz, hated pram sold after few weeks

but yes i would help someone if i saw them struggle,but the point is not to be overly reliant

She sounds like a spoilt princess.

Why on Earth couldn't she bump it up the stairs like everyone else would? It isn't difficult.

if that station is like our one here, there is no lift for disabled people or buggies, we have to go to the next station, use the lift, and get the train back to our town, we normally just bump the buggy up and down as its too much hassle to go to the next station annd back again

I think she was being absurd tbh. If you have big wheels - and she did then you just bump it up and down. The alternative would be to collapse the wheels and tuck that under one arm and carry the car seat with the other. Not fun but not impossible. She really needs to get a grip or she's going to find the next 5-10-20 years bloody hard going! And 10 weeks old is not newborn

blimey
it's not much of a story is it?

I think this is ridiculous. I commute into work on the tube every day with my baby (goes to a creche near work) and I'm 8 months pregnant. There are no lifts and lots of steps either end, no one ever offers help and yet somehow I manage it twice a day every day. Just don't see the problem.

did anyone else think 'Pollard' when they saw her name?

The DDA does not apply to historic buildings or sites where changes may not reasonably be made to accommodate disabled users (I know this because we were excused fitting a ramp from our front door because we are listed/in a conservation area). And before anyone jumps on me we have a temporary one we bring out if we have wheelchair bound visitors.

Stations are often included. If it's not financially viable to change them, they don't have to do it basically. Ye great olde cop-out clause.

Anyway, this woman is clearly mad. I have carried two children and a buggy up and down stairs at stations and yes it's hard work but actually 10 week olds don't weigh that much and if she'd been that desperate she could always have asked for someone to come and wait at the top of the stairs, after she carried her child up, with the baby, while she humped the buggy up!

Crazy PFB behaviour, that's what this is....waaah the world didn't revolve around my child waaaah call the papers.

she should try bumping a wheelchair with a 11 year old in it, thats what we do when we go to London on the train.

It would be nice if she had been given some assistance. Our local station was unstaffed and I had to heave the pushchair over the footbridge every evening on the way back from work, which was a real pain, but achievable. The point is though that it's a pain in the arse, but it's the sort of thing you sign up for when you have a baby. What is appaling is that many stations have no facilities in place for wheelchair users and others who are mobility impaired. At the station I used to use there is a big school in the village run by Scope. I always wondered what the children there did when they wanted to use the train (a very high percentage of them were wheelchair users).

In the photo, isn't that a car seat?

Why didn't she take the car seat off, fold up the buggy?

Alright I won't say that - someone using a wheelchair.

You know, there is a real problem in that if anyone even tries to comment on any aspect of disability they are jumped all over for the language they use when they are trying to be respectful.

If you don't regularly talk about such things you don't know the latest terms which are offensive.

the buggy when folded up is even more unmanageable- having the carseat and folded frame would be worse.

Yup am so going to sell this dumb assed buggy- dunno what possessed me to buy it- bloody ebay bargain gullibility!

Which is why I whispered my comment, whomoved - don't think you can say I jumped all over you!

I wonder why people don't take a sling for this kind of occasion, much safer all round. However, anyone who needs help should be given it unless it compromises safety or essential work of the station staff. If it had been an elderly person with a heavy suitcase wewould have despaired of a society which ignored them, but a woman with a child we label as undeserving. Odd.

I think the point of the story is supposed to be that there isn't actually a set policy of not carrying buggies - someone helped her husband do it, but not her.

So the rail firm are being inconsistent.

BUT it's got lost in a general moan.

It was only when I became a mum and needed to use public transport that i started to understand how difficult it is for diabled and wheelchair bound people to get from a to b in england. It's awful for them and yes, it's awful for babies as it's potentially dangerous to go hoisting a buggy up moving escalators etc.

No rights for babies, young children or the disabled. And you should be able to expect help from transport staff provided they're not otherwise engaged. I paid £9.50 for a 1 day travel card for me and DCs a couple of days ago. As it was we were (quite publicly) chucked off the DLR for carrying two small bikes, despite only going two stops!

I'm only 5'2" but I used to put my arm across the front of the buggy and hoick it up on to my hip for staircases. Since ds has ASD (and letting him out of the buggy in a crowded place could be a big mistake ) I managed to do that until he was about 3, with various sized buggies and even a few times when he went into a Major SN buggy. As long as you have a free hand to hang on to the handrail (for safety) it is much easier and quicker than bumping up and down steps.

I think that sort of carry would be very hard with a Buzz Pixel - they are big - and you'd have the weight of the car seat as well. I agree with you though for the Maclaren type - I used to carry dd1 in hers up over a footbridge every day on my way to work. It wasn't fun but it was ok.

Shinynewthings, the DLR has quite strict conditions of carriage re bikes however many stops you are going...