Woman booted off bus because it contained too many prams already

[TheDullWitch]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226324/Driver-orders-mother-toddler-bus-heavy-rain.html

But I don't understand - why didn't she just fold her buggy?

i had quinny buzz a big heefer wouldnt fit on bus.i sold it sharpish

Definitely not news.

Although our bus service has started not allowing you to even get on with a tiny folded umbrella pushchair if the two pushchair/wheelchair spaces are already taken. That sucks.

I had a Quinny Freestyle - mahoosive thing - fantastic for what I needed 99% of the time - fitted on buses.

buzz is a doozey,wide wheel base,steers like a cart

Never understand why so many people in London buy those 4x4 bugaboo tank type buggies then complain when they don't fit on buses. Durr

What makes me really angry is the design of bus that means that no buggy (nor wheelchair for that matter) could get on. There is an iron bar dividing the door in two and then very steep steps. Now that is a disgrace definitely designed by an able bodied twentysomething man.

Not everyone can fold buggies. I have arthritis, although I LOOK very well! What are you supposed to do with your baby whilst you are folding it? Not to mention your shopping.

Round here (South London) wheelchairs take priority, no such thing as having to wait because of buggies filling the space.

I did once have a row with an elderly lady who wouldn't move her tartan shopper out of the space! Better get in touch with The Mail, sounds like they'd lap it up.

Charlotte
www.disabledparentsnetwork.org.uk

v interesting link.charlotte.thanks

This thread is annoying me a little.

A few posters have suggested that she should buy a car and yet on other threads people are slated for damaging the environment and told to use public transport.

We manage without a car as I can't afford one and sometimes it is a pain in the arse. Public transport is useless around here and only takes you to places you don't want to go. When ds was of the age where he required a pushchair it was a nightmare I ended up buying a £15 buggy from Wilkinsons which was easy to fold but I was still refused entry on buses because the buses were full of shopping trolleys. Trying to logistically get a baby, pushchair and shopping bags on the bus was a nightmare, once the bus driver drove off before I had finished loading my shopping.

Surely this is non-news!
Also like to add that the trick to having polite bus drivers is be friends with the wife of the rather strict manager of the bus depot and mention his name when having a arguement discussion with bus driver.

I've folded my pushchair away for a wheelchair user to get on (smug face). Have been told I can't fit onbus lots and folded chair - no problem but a bit irritating as one of our local companies insists on only one unfolded buggy when there is plenty of room for 2.

Phew-wee.

I thought this was going to be a judgy thread about me as I threw a complete strop with the bus driver the other week 'cos there were too many pushchairs on the bus.

In my defence I'd waited 45 mins for it, an empty one had just sailed past, it was raining, I'd just come back from A&E with DD who was having breathing difficulties, and most pertinently I was with both parents who were driving me INSANE with their panicky will-we-get-on-the-bus chatter.

I was totally out of orser though, and was going to apologise to anyone who had witnessed my undignified weepy shout-fest.

What will the next headline be? 'Mother tutted at for lost-sock baby'? 'My frowned-at-in-supermarket horror by tantrum tot mum'?

Agree- why is this news?? Only ever allowed 2 prams on London buses unless driver is being nice. And you can definately fit 2 P&Ts with 2 kids in each on a bus. Just takes a bit of teamwork

I remember standing in the rain watching bus after bus go past as their was either another buggy on it or it wasn't wheelchair/buggy accessible.

I had just had DD2 and had in my naivity bought a M&P double, no way I could have folded that and kept ahold of a newborn and a 18 month old toddler. It took me all my time to fold it with both hands.

As much as I loathe driving, I drive most places now.

I'd be a bit annoyed if I was the other mother who ended up having to get off the bus instead.

I must make clear that my post "Why doesn't she buy a car?" was ironic.

I think it's outrageous that public transport isn't accessible to everyone - disabled people and people with prams and buggies. I got a car when I had children because it was v. obvious to me, that life without one would be horrible. If public transport was better, fewer people would feel the need to buy and use cars.

I can't believe this actually made the news, this is something that used to happen to me most weeks before I passed my driving test in June. On a few occasions bus drivers just sailed past if their buggy space was full, without even stopping to give me the option to fold it, which I would have been perfectly happy to do.
The most rudeness I have experienced in my life has been on public transport, both from bus drivers and fellow passengers. A bus driver once stuck his finger up at me because I banged on his door to let me on in the pouring rain! I am so glad I don't have to use it with the kids anymore, such a big stress out of my life!

Well he seems to have been a bit harsh, but then she seems to have been rather bolshy, and I expect things escalated. However if she had had the buggy in the isle (probably in the door space if it was too big for the buggy bay) then it could well have been dangerous. I wonder if the other mum got off because she just couldn't stand the row, or if she thought the other mum needed it more than her?

I have seen some rude bus drivers, but way more rude passengers I'm afraid. When my children were buggy age (my children are 10 and 9, so not that long ago) buses didn't have any space, so you always had to fold. Sometimes I wonder whether people remember how new (in most areas - I'm an ex-Londoner) these things are, and that they come from a hard fought battle for access by the disability lobbies.

Finally I can't see why she was told/assumed she had to walk - surely she just had to wait for the next bus with space? The London bus service is pretty good now, and the 139 comes every 8 mins or so, so not really that big a deal.

In DS' buggy days, my pet hate was the people who stood in the buggy bay despite there being seats elsewhere on the bus, and who wouldn't move unless you asked them quite firmly to do so.

Well....

No idea why one would go to the paper but was in sit many yeras ago of facing a 7 mile walk in December with 2 under 2 (and mnostly vergo not path, along an A road) because driversaid no ( would have olded buggy but hedrove past waving no at me- bus half empty,last one of day)

so i feel sorry for her

but fold the thing!

?I can see a carrycot pram might be an issue, and plenty of us end up on buses occasionally because car in garage or used by DH or whatever..... but if you use them often then yep, a folding buggy is a must

I showed this to my mother who was more than slightly bemused. As she pointed out, "back in the day" you either had a fold down umbrella buggy - which had to be forlded down and stored in the front of the bus with your shopping bags. Otherwise you just carried your child or walked.

We are such pampered pussycats these days - or should that be, as this woman seemed to be, spoiled!