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"on MN this week" in the Daily Mail

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StealthBearWipesBumOnDailyMail · 14/08/2009 11:13

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silverfrog · 14/08/2009 14:11

I am under no illusions that the DM will write about dd1's dietary issues (sits back and waits for the column ) - it really isn't that interesting.

but there is plenty on the board that is interesting - including a current thread about DLA and worries that it might be pulled.

and issues on education.

and health issues - the dx prcess, the appalling lack of services.

how SN children/adults are often overlooked/have needs ignored in hospitals

and so on.

I am fairly sure that the OP in the pregnancy/employment thread didn't think it was interesting enough to make the national papers.

my point is, no-one knows where the column will be heading.

and anyhting written about me/mine (or a lot of SN posters) makes us instantly identifiable.

not really a big deal, but I for one wouldn't want my MIL (random example) reading all my back posts after she has read about me in the DM.

NormaSknockers · 14/08/2009 14:12

Oh damn you're right....I didn't think through at all did I

NormaSknockers · 14/08/2009 14:13

Damn me & my sloooooooooow laptop today!

Goblinchild · 14/08/2009 14:21

'But what I can't understand is why you feel or think that the DM are going to print a column detailing your child's dietary needs etc. It is so so unlikely to happen.'

What about the 'Nutters and weirdos in our community need locking up' sort of story?
Where they look for threads to back up the idea that individuals with ASDs are amoral and dangerous and should be held in secure facilities if they break the law.
'Oh yes, let's use this quote from Goblinchild about her son. No, delete the resolution of the incident she describes in the final paragraph, lacks the immediate fear and audience-grabbing effect we're looking for.
Just leave the animal wailing, the wild flailing and the assault on the unsuspecting child who kicked his dog.
250 words. Let's keep going. What else can we find to show that freaks are scary and shouldn't be allowed around decent people?

If you trust the ethics of the DM, why does the paper get such a hard time on MN?

Goblinchild · 14/08/2009 14:26

Silverfrog:
but there is plenty on the board that is interesting - including a current thread about DLA and worries that it might be pulled.

Don't you mean
Feckless Breeders Fear Taxpayers' Cash For Defective Children May Dry Up?

wotzy · 14/08/2009 14:28

OK so I know about the MN books and MN copyright and they own all our words. However to re-quote MN comments in National Paper by a 'journalist' strikes me that they are just lazy feckers who couldn't be arsed to find some original material of their own. How bloody boring is that, why buy a paper? Just come on MN and read it.

An that thing that LIZS said. Yep agree with all of that post, put much better than I've just done..

I don't post much more on MN anymore. And I don't like MN linking their twitter to threads back to posts on here (oddly). Not sure why, the whole thing just doesn't sit well with me anymore, even if no-one knows who we/you all are, I feel like MN members have become a circus freak show.

LilyOfTheMountain · 14/08/2009 14:29

Yup Goblin, or my son's incident years past which became a big thread with me being threatened etc- then it turned out the other child made it up anyway.

AS / ASD etc is newsworthy atm, absolutely.

that DLA thread- have reply from Head of Assembly, must paste it on there (good reply)

silverfrog · 14/08/2009 14:29

goblinchild.

but scary in reality, huh?

RumourOfAHurricane · 14/08/2009 14:31

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wotzy · 14/08/2009 14:34

Infact this thread is the latest twitter one

The strange recesses of the toddler mind: share the oddnesses your toddler gets up to bit.ly/slKUT

and Mamulik your thread bout your wiffy partner is linked back from twitter too.

Nancy66 · 14/08/2009 14:34

This reminds me of the Y2K hysteria - where we were all going to be trapped in our homes with no gas or electricty, where our bank accounts could be wiped out and we'd lose all our money and the whole infrastructure of modern civilisation as we know it would collapse.....and..err...nowt happened.

When next week's column is 'is it ok not to wear tights to work?' you'll be able to flush your suicide pills down the loo.

Goblinchild · 14/08/2009 14:34

'Then, if you are all that worried, just stop posting!

No, I'll just start lying. My posts will become surrealist and ever-changing, I will be greeted with shrieks of Troll as I slide from one truth to another, plaiting and interweaving until I can't remember which way is North.
My son hates dogs.
See, I've already started.

RumourOfAHurricane · 14/08/2009 14:35

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silverfrog · 14/08/2009 14:35

shineon, thanks for the empathy.

to just stop posting on the SN board would remove all of my support.

I have no fmaily near me (eithe rmine or dh's)

Most of my friends are from school/university and live miles away too.

there is no support for dd1 form the communtiy team (she hasn't had a paed for nearly a year now, is too old for pre-school services, and mostly too young for children's services)

but hey, it doesn't affect you, so why would oyu care?

RumourOfAHurricane · 14/08/2009 14:36

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wotzy · 14/08/2009 14:36

My point is the large twitter community (global) - I expect is bigger than the DM piece. So yes all you can do is stop posting.

RumourOfAHurricane · 14/08/2009 14:38

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Goblinchild · 14/08/2009 14:42

I'm quite enjoying the thought now of an invasion of DM readers posting honest opinions on here and stomping all over the tender sensitivities of the boards.
Offending and outraging people by not taking playdates seriously, thoughts on breastfeeding and how to discipline.
My real hope is that all the newbies will be unreconstructed males. That would truly be fun to watch unfold.
Unlikely, but what entertainment.

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 14/08/2009 14:44

Yes, but Mumsnet has 1400 followers on Twitter. The DM readership is, what, over a thousand times that?

LilyOfTheMountain · 14/08/2009 14:45

In ten yearstime- MN with adverts for greggs, fruitshhot and haven holidays

you couldarguea well needed dose of reallity, but I can get that from a thousand other places

noddyholder · 14/08/2009 14:49

It seems no one can decide whether MN is 'real' or not and it depends on who is affected by it.Sometimes the 'its only a website'opinion is acceptable like in this case it seems and in other situations people genuinely see it as 'friends' and part of thir life and are upset by these things.Make your minds up but judging by all the mn'ers i have met in RL the DM isn't fit to wipe their arses so i for one am appalled by this!

silverfrog · 14/08/2009 14:51

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foxinsocks · 14/08/2009 14:55

yes silver, no-one should take the piss out of other people's feelings

I'd just like perhaps a message on the board asking that journalists contact mn before quoting posters directly. I don't think writing about threads is bad, I do think quoting people directly shouldn't be allowed unless run past someone else first tbh.

foxinsocks · 14/08/2009 14:57

especially as they seem to display an extraordinary inability to attribute the posts to the right poster!

theyoungvisiter · 14/08/2009 14:57

shiney I think you are being deliberately obtuse.

Of course it's not LIKELY that any individual one of us will have an identifying problem printed in the Mail. But it is POSSIBLE. And thanks to this column it is a good deal more likely than it was last week.

It is not likely that I will be attacked on my way home from work on a dark night. But the possibility makes me uncomfortable, and if I had a choice I probably wouldn't walk my particular route late at night because, even though the possibility of attack is unlikely, the potential consequences might be devastating.

Equally although any one is unlikely to be outed in the Mail, it is possible and the potential consequences might be devastating for that person - maybe not in real, concrete, fiscal terms but in terms of the emotional invasion of privacy. And the very possibility of it happening will make some people uncomfortable posting on MN.

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