"on MN this week" in the Daily Mail

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How the fuck has this become such a hot topic??

jodieo; yes, it is a shame when certain posters leave, but I honestly can't see why people are getting so annoyed and leaving, are you annoyed because it's the daily mail? privacy reasons? lazy journalism?

dp I'm not going to leave but I really dislike the DM and would rather not having anything to do with it.

'Really? You would all be happy to write articles on how working mums and immigrants are destroying the country for union rates? Fair enough. Guess it's just me then. '

I'd be happier to stay at home and live off someone else's earnings and then go and tell others they're morally bankrupt.

And, yes, I find international pharmaceutical companies just as bad if not worse than anything the DM can turn out.

Oh, you came back nancy! Um, I don't mean to be stalkerish.. but you said earlier, when we were talking about privacy, "I take sensible precautions in that I don't post pictures of my family, I have a user name that bears no resemblance to my own and don't name check any of my family".

Well, I'm afraid I kind of searched your posts and did some googling... and... you've kind of given away your own name, the names and ages of your nieces and nephews, and, er, where you live. Oh, and what misdemeanours you got up to in your youth. Sorry. You might want to get MN to take some of that down if you're serious about your privacy.
Clearly I'm not going to out you on here but my email is purplehelix at google.com if you want to shout at me. Just so we have a quid pro quo thing.

Sorry. Again. But just to show that giving away too much info is easily done.And that research power is not limited to journalists...

I'm not going anywhere, although I haven't been here terribly long anyway. My firstborn is one the way - although I may not be happy about the DM associations, I'm not going to get through the last months or pregnancy nor the early months of parenthood without MN and its body of members as a resource. And I guess that's what MN is really all about.

Well, for me....

What I type is here for anyone to see and read - but if someone does google "potty training" and does come up with a post of mine they can read it in full and in context and then take what they want from that.

If MNHQ decide to write a book I am pretty confident that the usage of the words I type will be responsible and sympathetic, they are also in the business of parenting advice and so will focus more on the parenting things I write rather than the stuff about bumsex/playing online games/whatever.

If a paper picks a small part of what I type it may be out of context/miss-quoted etc but it is one or two lines on one occasion.

With this, a) it is an awful paper on so many levels b) there is no basis to it so they can lift and focus on anything including the thread I may have started about being beaten by my drunken husband, losing my baby, my mothers fight with cancer or anything else. They have no ethical or moral need to be fair, sensitive, complete, accurate or any of the things we expect from MN and c) it is an awful paper!

Why should the DM pay? Google don't pay, yet they index threads on at lightning speed. I haven't seen the DM column, as quite frankly I haven't brought a newspaper for many many years - like an increasing number of people I now use Google and other online resources for my news needs. Printed Newspapers are a dying bread... this time next year will they even exist?

lolol lazy journalism is ceasing to have any meaning on mn it's used so often.

actually... as it goes and as someone who actually does this for a living rather than curing rich people's cancer... it wouldn't really be that easy to put together. i'd rather just write the whole thing myself and get it over with, rather than having to include the words of all you tosspots.

Oh come on, don't all you guardian readers believe in equal rights/ equality/ diversity/ and lots of other nice things?...... welcome the daily mail reader as you would an illegal immigrant.......time to spread the love jodieo

Nannynick, I don't think many of us actually saw the hard copy - it's here if you want to read it.

I've already been quoted in several places, but nothing will ever top a certain poster's quip about babies, rockets and S. Lebanon .

I've been posting here for 7 years now. I would be horrified to see some of my posts from 7 years ago shoved in a book. I have completely changed my mind on many topics. I am not remotely the same person I was 7 years ago, and I would not stand by some of my opinions of 7 years ago. This was why I used to tick the 'don't use my posts in one of your books' box. When it existed.

I couldn't give a stuff about a newspaper that no-one will be looking at this time next week.

Expat - true - that still makes me laugh, just a hint at the quote has me chortling

DP, I would be happy to accept the snobbery label if we were talking about many other papers but with this paper it is not a snobbery thing it is a basic moral thing

Blimey - this really is turning into MN omnibus isn't it?

We've got Mothercare, SAHM vs WOHM, flouncing, DM, GF, cod! I shan't mention the other M word.....!

Blimey Aitch you have a Message deleted by Mumsnet too.

Saintly, tbh I think the whole "next weeks fish paper" POV is a bit naive. Do you really think old articles are dead and gone lke that? That they do not have repercusions beyond the day they are printed?

It's a fair point NannyNick, but at the moment newspapers cost and online services don't at the point of usage (and is funded entirely by advertising...) Would there be this debate if it was a free news service quoting as the source a chat room, or an online news source quoting another online news source? I don't know.

Think though that printed media being more tangible makes stories more real rather than this seemingly parallel universe that clearly goes away when you switch off.

Thanks DMCLMBalls - Pity they didn't end the column with the view of an Employment Lawyer, pointing out to their readers what the law is in the UK with regards to dismissal whilst pregnant.

has been done VVVQ. It's on this thread.

I dunno why you are getting so upset about the DM, it'll be the Sun next week and Nuts the week after.
DM will look like a playground

really wotzy? it must be because i used LH's old posting name. i don't know why that would be a problem though.

anyway, by the looks of things custy's next for the chop.

Kingcanute- I really can't imagine that a teeny tiny article about a completely open public forum where the posters use pseudonyms (such as MN) is going to have long lasting repercussions.

I am chortling at the irony of comparing DM readers to illegal immigrants