Michael Jackson is dead

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sad

Why in quotes kerry? Because you want to make it into something it isn't?

No, actually, I don't think it's perfectly ok for a man to sleep with children in these circumstances. The point we're all making is that it doesn't make it criminal. You seem to be failing to grasp that point. God help anyone in the dock if you ever do jury service kerry because you clearly have no grasp of facts.

I think that his death is either drugs or steroids related, or suicide. He hadn't got documented heart problems. Strange he just suddenly 'went'

A very messed up individual by the sound of it, and not that surprising he has died comparatively young after all that surgery. WRT the noncery: if he ever did anything specifically sexual with those boys it would probably have been the least harmful kind of abuse (ie not frigntening or painful, however inappropriate).

Gary Glitter on the other hand... isn;t he dead yet?

He was reportedly severely anorexic for a good number of years. Doesn't surprise me tbh

Kery - I would if I could remember your initials

No dittany, no one has said that, but no surprise that you are rewriting the threads as usual. People are pointing out that he has not been convicted of child sex offences.

Niw before I start I would like to say I'm not exactluy a fan of Michael Jackson, however I do feel that he had a fucked up childhood and that he never grew up and still thought of himself as a boy - rightly or wrongly.

If he did abuse those children (and who really knows for sure - we weren't there) would he have happily admnitted to having sleep overs and having young boys sleep in his bed?

No one knows for sure and I think its sad that this has started already but inevitable. He shouldn't have settled out of court the first time it happended but who knows maybe he thought it would all go away, or maybe he was guilty and yes should rot in hell, but lets just remember that his parents have lost their son, his children their father - very sad

My Dad didn't have documented heart problems either but he suddenly 'went' as well aged 54 after a massive heart attack. It happens.

And he was being treated for a different non life threatening condition by the hospital at the time.

Blimey, he was only 50.

He did make some good music in his prime but as for recent years

I'm sure I'd read that he had heart problems and thats why they were concerned whether he;d be able to do all shows

The parents in question were very happy to let their children sleep in his bed needanewname. Probably saw the potential for screwing him over and laughed all the way to the bank.

thats what I think violet - which is why he shouldn;t have settled in the first place - made himself an easy target

right off to bed now - DH woke me up with this news, bit of a shocker, now need to go back to sleep, night all!

Absolutely. A sad, lonely, weird man. But not a criminal.

Oh yes . Am sure it happens. Just something doesn't sit right here. He was in a deep coma when he arrived at hospital.........is that what happens after a heart attack? Is it usual?

Nope he's gone.

he was an amazing guy.

He wasn't a nonce.

He inspired kids all over the 3rd world. How often would one hear "Michael Jackson" when one travelled there?

I hope we don't have a "Diana Moment".

I think he had painkiller addictions after all his surgeries which probably contributed to his early death

Wow, Jacko dead!

found you I think - and added you - not sure how you got chucked off......

blimey...i must have been on a different planet today, i never heard about it

i thought he was an amazing performer, very talented, i would have quite liked to see him in concert

am amazed the sick txts havent started coming thru yet