Euro elections results

[policywonk]

Here's one prediction www.predict09.eu/default/en-us/state_analyses.aspx#united

Cheeringly, it reckons that the BNP won't win a seat. Here's hoping.

FO my firned was also considering voting BNP until I explained a bit more about them- course can't know if she did but can bloody well hope!

She was really seeming to vote on this bizarre white people are second calss citizens crap, a particualr joke living in mostly white Somerset!

The scary thing is I know she has no malevolent bones in her- she was consiering it from fear: if we could write the BNP voters off as idiots it would be so easy wouldn't it? but society teaches people to beleive the media and accept them as Gods, then we wonder why Nick Grifin et al get so much credence.

Why can he say thata bout representing non whites.... if I went into a job and said I wasn't teaching / supporting / serving non whites I'd be sacked, after all

I may be the only happy bunny on here this morning. FABULOUS result for my party - the SNP. The BNP did not make inroads in Scotland (perhaps because we have a legitamate left-of-centre alternative to Labour?)

I think you are right Granny23.

The big prob is I gues that it's going to take a few really brave 'non-whites' (aka people) to cause a stir and try and get membership / help etc but as a white eprson ica nt advocate or ask anyone to take that risk because not only is it fair to ask, but NG seems to know some rather nasty people not worth upsetting

Which just leaves me to be ashamed of the country, make sure I voye anything else, and teach my boys to do better

Granny23, I don't know much about the SNP (ignoramous, I know) but I always have heard them referred to as 'Tartan Tories'. Is that a mistake?

Certainly I know ex-Tory SNP voters, but in terms of taxation and social policy they've been somewhat left of centre (rather easy given the amount of money Scotland is subsisidised by England with).

Leicester results (East Midlands):

The Labour Party
25644 37.0%
Conservative Party
13918 20.1%
Liberal Democrats
7904 11.4%
United Kingdom Independence Party
6006 8.7%
The Green Party
5160 7.4%
British National Party
5001 7.2%
Christian Party ?Proclaiming Christ?s Lordship?
1107 1.6%
English Democrats Party
1016 1.5%
Socialist Labour Party
998 1.4%
No2EU: Yes to Democracy
894 1.3%
United Kingdom First
833 1.2%
Jury Team
497 0.7%
Pro Democracy: Libertas.eu
338 0.5%

Well, that was a rather depressing set of results.

[glum]

depressing but nor unexpected, always seems that in a recession it all goes to extremes, the results across Europe are grim

Thanks SomeGuy.

WW 'Tartan Tories' is the term Labourites use to discredit the SNP. Tories will tell you that the SNP is to the left of Labour. The SNP describe themselves as Social Democrats.

Originally, the SNP was neither Left, Right nor Centre and was rather a single issue i.e. Independence party. As more and more people joined it moved steadily to the left. Not surprising as most Scottish voters are left leaning. The early 80's were a bit fraught as left and centre jostled for control of the party but with new recruits such as Jim Sillars and Alex Neil from Scottish Labour and Jimmy Reid (the shipyard workers shop-steward and champion) and many others the shift left was inevitable.

The SNP is very inclusive, with members from all sectors of the Scottish population i.e. all people who live in Scotland. At our local polling station on Thursday, we 'got the nod' from people with Irish, Welsh English and Polish accents and white, brown, black and yellow people with Scots accents.

I think it's disgraceful that the major parties (and minor come to that) didn't really do much to get people to vote. I got one leaflet from libdems about concil elections, nothing from anyone else, not one leaflet about Europe, I have seen no posters, no advertising. I have no idea what the major parties want to do on Europe. I'm in the SE and the only reason I have taken such interest is because of the state of labour and fear of the BNP. I voted and I believe everyone has a duty to but I understand why people stayed away, it isn't just about policy and a credible alternative to labour. Its about a total lack of attempts to engage with the electorate. I bet the SNP were leafleting and out talking to people in Scotland.

Wonderstuff, I got quite a few leaflets in the South East. Do remember though, it is all volunteers who deliver them and believe me absolutely every effort is put in by those volunteers who come out of the election exhausted. They need people like you, who care about the issues, to help them.

Some Guy - Naughty, Naughty! I have to refute the 'subsidised by England' myth. You are obviously a knowledgeable chap and will know perfectly well that there is no such thing as 'England's' money. All revenue and taxes collected is the UKs money. Tax payers and companies based in Scotland pay their Taxes to the UK treasury. All the revenue from 'Scotland's' oil and gas has kept the whole UK afloat for many years and we are a massive exporter of electricity over the border. I could go on and on but YOU know that the figures are deliberatly fudged by successive UK governments to make Scotland appear to be the poor relations of the UK family when the reverse is true. This is a deliberate ploy to counter the growing demand for independence. If Scotland were such a drain on the UK enconomy the establishment would be happy to let us go.

BadKitten I guess you are right. I guess with party membership at an all time low it makes the job harder. I do think that MEP's could do more outside of election time to let us know what they are doing. Our local councillors leaflet once a month on what they are doing locally, our MP writes weekly in the local rag, but I have no idea who our MEPs are, what they are doing or how to contact them. Last European elections the BNP was the only person who spoke to us (DH pointed out that with blond hair and blue eyes he prehaps wasn't a true celt and therefore not qualified to represent the 'indiginous population' he left looking confused)
{goes off to investigate party membership}

The oil does not belong to Scotland because Scotland is part of the UK. It is the UK's oil. In any case much of it is in fact under England's continental shelf The fact is,regardless of which area pays most taxes, Scotland has far more per head to spend, which allows the SNP to implement policies on health care, etc., which simply could not be applied across the UK without leading to bankruptcy.

Even if you say that Scotland does earn more money, your argument is akin to saying that because the South East is richer than Liverpool, the people of the home counties should get luxurious hospitals with private rooms and no waiting lists while the Scousers have to put up with a third world service. Clearly that would be wrong, yet it's exactly what happens in Scotland.

I don't get the whole Scottish anti-English independence thing, surely it was the Scots who united the two countries (King James and all that) not the other way round? Why does Scotland think they get a raw deal when they are represented in Scotland and in the UK and their MPs can vote on exclusivly English issues? Surely it really should be England wanting independence? (Sorry to go off topic but this has always puzzled me)

some guy for PM please!

God, what depressing results

How are BNP allowed to prevent non whites from joining their party?

Surely this is illegal?

How are BNP allowed to prevent non whites from joining their party?

Surely this is illegal

Their reply to this is that as long as there is a National Black Police Association they will be a whites-only party. I think they also said it protects them because they can use race relations law (i.e. because actions against them are affecting one race).

Make of it what you will.

I was shocked that in another European country (not sure which) they had a party that was called "Anti-Gypsie" party.
And they may have won a seat.
If that's not blattently racist i don't know what is

Swine flu didn't really worry me, but this does.
And I feel ashamed that the majority of eligible voters simply could not be arsed to vote for some-one and NOW look what's happened.
Let's hope this is the kick up the arse that needed in order to prevent the shite poop really hitting the fan.

Ripeberry I think it's Hungary.