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Row over Secret Classroom Filming (Channel 5) Next Wednesday

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JoolsToo · 23/04/2005 08:25

any thoughts?

Might make interesting viewing.

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happymerryberries · 27/04/2005 21:14

Kind of you to say that! Sometimes I'm not so bad, I have off days. I'm very lucky to have very supportive HOD, SMT. And to be honest that is the biggest thing.

hunkermunker · 27/04/2005 21:15

Oh, absolutely, the 'I'm fireproof' attitude is also an enormous part of it.

I think that giving children decent food shows you value them too, and that attitude crosses into other things you do with them.

I also think that perhaps there should be the equivalent of Supernanny for schools

RTKangaMummy · 27/04/2005 21:16

I think it shows when you talk about the buzz when they "get it" for you and them

happymerryberries · 27/04/2005 21:16

Oh, I quite agree, and have posted as much many times.

I've lost count of the number of kids who breakfast on Mars bars and coke.

RTKangaMummy · 27/04/2005 21:20

one of DS friends MOTHERS

said she didn't have time to give the children breakfast so gave them

FRUIT WINDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So they would have some FRUIT!!!!!!!!

{if you don't know what they are it is a sweet that is a red sticky long flat sweet}

hunkermunker · 27/04/2005 21:22

Christ on a bike, what is WRONG with people?!

hub2dee · 27/04/2005 21:23

hmb - didn't quite understand 'rad' or 'MFT' (not a teacher myself), but agree with the part of the job, from my discussions with dw. When it all clicks, it is fantastic.

Kanga: oh... it's so early ! dd is still only 26 (gestational) weeks old but I must admit I have some reservations about the teaching on offer these days (though would quite probably be v. happy with some of the better schools we might be able to get into one day) and also I believe there are so many things that should get taught to / shared with kids but can't within curriculum / budget restraints.

Great teachers - hmb ? dw ? Are like gold dust. They're terribly important to the kids and to the wider society. And I can confirm their dhs / dps love 'em for it. They're the tops.

Caligula · 27/04/2005 21:27

HM I think the equivalent of Supernanny for schools is Headmasters like the one who was shown at that East End school. What an extraordinary achievement.

RTKangaMummy · 27/04/2005 21:30

Hub2dee I thought you were doing some forward planning

hub2dee · 27/04/2005 21:39

Kanga, maybe I need to start up an alternative school

RTKangaMummy · 27/04/2005 21:42

THERE IS THE OTHER SIDE OF COIN ON BBC1 @ 10.50

TONIGHT

hub2dee · 27/04/2005 21:51

May I ask what it's about ?

RTKangaMummy · 27/04/2005 21:54

Sorry late change

now your life in their hands about surgeons

hub2dee · 27/04/2005 21:57

Ta.

RTKangaMummy · 27/04/2005 22:02

HEAD ON THE BLOCK looked really good

so keep eye out for it next time

About inspirational Head teacher innner city school

hub2dee · 27/04/2005 22:40

Kanga, if you don't mind me asking, when's the anniversary and birthday ? (If you do, pls ignore). X

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JoolsToo · 27/04/2005 22:51

glad my children went to school 70's/80's

It definitely wasn't like that in my day!

Question: so if this is a national problem and no-one seems to be learning much - where are all these fantastic exam results coming from? (I suppose 16% for a 'C' grade GCSE maths says it all!)

Ofsted reports seem to be meaningless as they
appear not to be a true reflection of what is happening in schools.

Who'd aspire to be a teacher watching that.

Depressing!

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hub2dee · 27/04/2005 23:06

I went to school in the 70s and 80s ...

and it wasn't like that. Maybe they were 'good' or 'great' schools I don't know (part comp, par private).

Agree OFTSED is partly farcical.

It would be v. interesting to learn if the alleged 'decline in behavioural standards' was a UK phenomenon or virtually the same everywhere...

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JoolsToo · 27/04/2005 23:10

Son!

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hub2dee · 27/04/2005 23:14

Hello mummy !

hub2dee · 27/04/2005 23:15
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JoolsToo · 27/04/2005 23:21

we may deduce that perhaps it has something to do with Noo Labour being in goverment?

there seems to be a similar problem in teaching that there is in policing - namely that the professionals are too bogged down with paperwork (meted down from on high) so that the job they should be doing languishes. You get the impression from that programme that anyone could go into teaching all you need is a firm hand and the internet!

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JoolsToo · 27/04/2005 23:22

wait til your dad gets home!

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hub2dee · 28/04/2005 07:30

!!!!!!

Come on, it all started with Maggie didn't it - 1970 ?

It is a pertinent observation though - paperwork and teachers / police. Doubtless it has relevance to nursing too.

Hmmm.... has the computer revolution done us no favours ?

SecondhandRose · 28/04/2005 08:32

My husband's business is supplying security cameras mainly to schools. These cameras are being put in classrooms, they are clearly visible. There is visual and audio recording if required.

Unfortunately this is the state of Britain today, teachers are threatened and taunted on a regular basis. There is the threat of litigation through violence or accident (a child may say something happened and a recording can prove otherwise).

Bring back some bloody discipline, start with the cane in my opinion.

Last night's programme was rotten to the core, there should be a lot of people ashamed of themselves today but sadly they won't they will be laughing.