the Mail does it again- Cerrie Cbeebies :(

[littlelamb]

what a load of bigotted toss How is bile like this even printed? My dd is 4 and has not even noticed. Just vile. But am amazed to learn she has a 4 month old. Am v of her flat tummy!

I am LIVID about this.

My son has a congenital hand deformity, and if this is the sort of reation he is going to get throughout his life from bigoted small minded toss wanks than I feel incredibly sorry for him

I'm off to comment on the Daily Misogynist article

lol at daily misogynist! ..Sheik there a thread about this on special needs too!.

Cerrie was on the BBC this morning, she seems really sweet although I must admit I do miss Chris and Poi as well. And I am sad that Sid seems to be on less these days- he's so fab.

I get the feeling that the criticisms regarding Cerrie have actually been quite small in number and there has been a flood of support for her.

Incidentally, the paralympics coming up will be another chance for children to learn about disability.

paralympics is a great day out too!.... it inspires the SN kids and shows the NT kids that disabled people can achieve great things too!.... did you see the girl who got honour from the queen for services to sport, think she has dwarfism, but was youngest girl to win gold at only 14yr old! fantastic!

This is about to be discussed on the Wright
Stuff on Five.

I watched the Wright Stuff discussion and was quite frankly shocked and disgusted by the woman who rang in and said 'that this sort of thing shouldnt be inflicted on her granddaughters'

I was screaming at the tv!!!

I dont believe in political correctness, and have strong views that I wouldnt voice on here or anywhere really, but this really is a disgrace, and to say 'inflicted' OMG it was as if cbeebies had employed a paedophile to present.

Daily Mail..not a great paper,...but tbh, the idiots are those parents that complained...surely???

tiny minds = tiny non-existent thoughts

and yes...she did...

btw...if you got sky it's on fiver and this part will be on in a little while

I think there were two of them that phoned in with that opinion but the woman who said 'inflicted' was by far the worst.
ds was watchin the clips and said 'hey theres the lady from cbeebies' he doesnt even notice and like Matt Alright said on the programme, if children ask, you tell them in an adult and responsible manner and they accept that because thats what children are like. (He made a good comparison about him watching Floella Benjamin in the late 70's as she was the first black woman he'd seen on tv)

I honestly am still in shock that people are raising children to behave like this, why are they teaching them these appalling morals (or lack thereof). I fear for the future of these children and hope there are enough of us raising well rounded individuals (even if like mine they eat smiley faces and sausage rolls)

How do the Daily Mail get the blame for this if they are quoting what is on the cbeebies forum?

That aside, I don't think it makes a difference if the girl has one, two or eight arms. Disabled people are a fact of life, what are you meant to do hide them away from small children?

These parents are just plain thick, what would they do if they lost a limb? Move out so as not to scare their kids? What if one of their kids lost a limb, put them in a home so as not to scare the others?
Its just stupid, although saying that I am a bit fed up that the BBC seem to push PC correctness at you from every angle.
Thank God my two are too old to watch most of the crap on there now.

The Daily Mail gets the blame for everything Kimi. It's a kneejerk response from some posters on here.

Kimi - I don't think the Daily Mail had to highlight a completely pointless debate started by extremely narrow-minded people. Although I don't think the article was bad in itself, (it did seem to imply the people leaving these messages were being odd) the whole tone - "PC gone mad" etc etc - fits in rather too neatly with the Daily Mail's own ideology. It might have worked better as a comment piece asking why this sort of discrimination is still seen as acceptable by some people. Can you imagine leaving a message on the CBeebies saying your children were having nightmares because Sid is black and that scares them?

Incidentally, my children genuinely didn't realise that Cerrie was disabled until they saw her on BBC Breakfast this morning talking about what amounts to a hate campaign. Then my daughter asked why she only had one hand and, when I explained, said that she would find it difficult to tie her shoe laces. No nightmares at the lala house, I think...

SheikYerbouti - my son has a congenital upper limb deformity too, can't believe what the minority people are saying about Cerrie, thankfully most people don't seem to be as ignorant!

As most of you have said most kiddies haven't even noticed her arm, including my 3 year old son. This goes to show that children are much more apt to view the wholeness of others and not dissect them as we adults do when we tend to label people. I saw Cerri on the BBC morning show this morning and to be honest she shouldn't have had to put up with this but then this is how people can be and this will not have been her first time facing such attitudes for sure . I say we learn from our children about how to view others.

Oh riven can I bring my mum and hide with you?

I think as parents it is our privilege not just our job to teach our children that all things in life are different, colour, culture, lifestyles, religions and people.

I do not tell my children people with disabilities are "special" they are just people who have different aspects of life. I do not really like DS1 being branded special needs (he has needs that may differ from others).

My mother recently had a leg amputated, she is now an aging lady in a wheelchair with one leg, my children did not really notice any big change, thought the hair was cool and wanted to see nannas stump, they did not run screaming or find her scary, I hope partly because we have always tried to raise them to see a person not a colour, faith,disability or what ever.

My cousins daughter lives in the country and they do not have many ethnic family's about all her friends are white and so on, she was taken on holiday to a predominately west African country and would not leave the hotel as she was scared of the "black people" she is 12 FFS, but she has never been shown or told that life is a wonderful mix and she should embrace the differences we all have, makes for a more intresting life.

Both my children's school have some less able bodied children there, so if you grow up seeing a little girl with CP who has a frame and a chap with a deformed hand just a thumb on it it becomes everyday. DS2s class have been sending cards and letters to my mum and she has been writing back, these are 8/9 year olds, and they have shown more compassion and understanding then some of the adults we have come across.

so my point is some of these "adults" that have complained should maybe learn from letting their children lead the way, instead of putting their fears and prejudices on to those children.

now Riven what should I pack

it took my husband and i about 4 nights before we noticed I saw all the articles and wondered when my daughter would notice,
shes two(almost 3) and today she did.
her comments were "mummy that lady don't have an arm" i explained that she was born that way and some people are born different, her next comment a little concerned "but she won't be able to hold a handbag with no arm" i said she has the other one. tut, shrug of shoulders and no further mention.
i love kids nothing phases them unless adults make a big deal of it.

I wouldn't normally quote from private comments on a friend's blog (the friend was outraged by these people's attitudes btw) but these people don't deserve my respect:

"I really find it freaky to watch ... I can't say I would have made a complaint, but I have comment many times that I'm not convinced its suitable."

Gosh, I must take my daughter out of ballet class, surely it can't be 'suitable' for her to see the little girl there who has a missing arm, let alone the little girl with the facial deformity?

"Because I find it hard to look at and wish something were done about it (and not necessarily by firing the poor woman)."

What then, force a prosthesis on her? Pixellate out the offending abbreviated limb? This one does at least claim to accept it's her own personal 'squick', but still seems to feel entitled to have life censored for her private benefit.

She was on Radio 5 this morning being interviewed by Nicky Campbell. He said there had been 9 comments on a website and how did that merit being a story. Cerrie said that she was her disability was commented on every single day and then qualified that broad statement by saying it actually happened a couple of times a week. You could tell NC couldn't see the point in doing the interview! My ds hasn't even noticed her missing hand. I don't like her or her male counterpart because they are insipid and aren't Chris and Pui.

I have to say, though, as others have said, she is crap. And that's nowt to do with her disability, naturally.

She's just crap .. and so is he.

I told my DDs (6 & 3.5) about this debate - that a few parents thought cerrie might frighten their children and didn't want her to be on a tv programme for kids and asked them what they thought.

DD1 said she thought the parents were being mean - it wasn't cerrie's fault she hadn't got a hand. And DD2 said she'd like to give her a cuddle... And as to whether she was scary ... 'she's got a short arm mummy, that's not frightening'.

I think people underestimate their children's reactions sometimes.

I agree with Desiderata. Are the parents who are complaining about Cerrie turning the TV off for Something Special I wonder??