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How will you vote on May 5th?

462 replies

victoriapeckham · 12/04/2005 18:36

Just wondered. A little bit political...
a) how did you vote last time (if at all?)
b) how will you vote this time (if at all)?
c) what to you is the deciding issue of this election?
d) if you had to make love (not war) with one politician (past, present, senior or backbench?) who would it be?

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Enid · 30/04/2005 19:59

oh, and, shock horror...

I like Tony Blair

flobbleflobble · 30/04/2005 19:59

UKIP protest vote for me - I think no party has much power to make changes whilst Brussels dictates on so many key issues

Find it very hard to fancy any of our politicians though...

Enid · 30/04/2005 20:02

www - would you normally vote lib dem?

We can vote for each other then IYSWIM

WideWebWitch · 30/04/2005 20:05

Enid, I've never voted anything other than Labour.

Heathcliffscathy · 30/04/2005 20:21

ARgh. lib dem. could never ever vote for blair again.

i'm so peed off: they want you to believe that if you vote lib dem you'll let the tories in. the tories have about as much chance of getting in as there is of me not having a big glass of wine tonight (like, NONE)...fgs please punish blair for his lies arrogance broken promises: vote lib dem, don't let labour in with a huge majority again...they will just carry on, they will invade iran, they will not (as promised) convene an electoral reform committee, they will keep top up fees, they will continue the insidious privatisation of public services via PPPs....god, punish them and maybe they'll kick out blair and instate brown as pm and maybe he'll live by his early political life socialist credentials....

arghhhhhhhhh

ks · 30/04/2005 20:23

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Heathcliffscathy · 30/04/2005 20:27

ks, did you see my thread whose title was your name a few days ago???

Caligula · 30/04/2005 20:38

Sophable, no-one thought Heath would get Wilson out in 1972. It was a complete shock. But it happened. Never say never with elections!

Heathcliffscathy · 30/04/2005 20:48

hmmmm...do you really think that this time caligula????

i think the tories are heinous bastards...but to be honest, i think blair is just...gosh evil isn't right, but i truly believe that his only priority is self-aggrandisement and a fat career on the US lecture circuit after his third term....i do* believe he will follow bush in iran....please i just can't face it happening...

JoolsToo · 30/04/2005 21:04

blimey where have the conservatives come from? - I thought I was alone

what saddens me is when I talk to people like my friend - she's always voted Labour as has her dh (they're voting Lib Dem this time btw!)

When she talks about different issues I say - but that's a Tory policy - 'ooh' she says 'I can't vote Tory' not only that but she thinks her dh is the font of all knowledge so just does what he does - I want to shake her!

Caligula · 30/04/2005 21:06

No not really, I think you're probably right, but I wouldn't stake my life saving's on it (if I had any!) and I wouldn't want to take the risk. Upsets do happen and I would feel dismayed and very worried about the future if I woke up next Friday and MH was PM. The sheer horror of such a scenario. Whereas Blair is depressing and disheartening, but not actually pure horror.

Tinker · 01/05/2005 11:40

Urgh, at thought of Oliver Letwin as your MP! He's been kept out of the public eye quite a bit for this campaign hasn't eh?

I would genuinely weep if woke up on Friday to a Tory govt, esp as about to have a baby.

Agree with Caligula, couldn't take the chance on protest votes - shock election in Australia last time, same campaign manager this time for Tories. TB has said he's standing down, am voting for the party not him. Suspect a genuine left-wing Labour party would have even less chance of getting in and I think most resisitance would come from the South - generalising, no source backing this up.

Back to teh Greens. Are they anti EU? If so why? If not, how are they going to abolish VAT?

Gobbledigook · 01/05/2005 11:43

I think you'll wake up on Friday to find TB the PM. I've no doubt about it, despite how utterly, utterly crap he is.

paolosgirl · 01/05/2005 12:05

GDG - totally agree. TB will be in, on a reduced majority. He will spout forth about how he recognises that it is not an endorsement for the Iraq war, but rather a recognition for all the 'good' the party has done for the country and the economy.
A year or so down the line, TB will step aside, GB will take over, and then we really will be in trouble without him as Chancellor. So predictable, so tedious....

Tinker · 01/05/2005 12:13

Have to agree, don't want GB as PM, think he is far more useful where he is. Want the return of Robin Cook actually.

JoolsToo · 01/05/2005 14:55
  1. even when all this was exposed, when it became clear that Alastair Campbell's presentation of the WMD case represented runaway inflation of the intelligence provided to the government, absolutely no-one quit, or was asked to do so.
Indeed, in a subline act of hubris, Tony Blair promoted John Scarlett, the intelligence officer most grievously tarnished by collusion with Campbell, to become director of Britain's Secret Service.
  1. If Labour achieves victory as the polls predict, the British people will give a wretched signal to the world: we do not care what lies we have been told, what sins have been committed by this Prime Minister. We care only that the sun shines, interest rates are low, and it will soon be time to take the boat out. Think of the host of government ministers forced from office in recent years - Mandelson for his personal lies, Byers for mismanaging the railways, Blunkett over his lover's nanny's passport, Estelle Morris for finding education too much for her. How trivial their failures appear, alongside those of their leader! If a man expects to go to prison for issuing a fraudulent prospectus for a mere City company, what should be the judgment on one who has launced a nation on a fraudulent war? From the dock, Blair cannot even claim personal penitence. He regrets nothing, because he is confident it is all OK with God. This is a sorry story, and its threatened outcome reflects sorry truths about the British electorate. The man who has made fools of 60 miilion people is confident we shall re-elect him, without even needing to dose us with 'soma'. And unless there is a dramatic awakening the next five days, the British people will return a wholly discredited prime minister to Downing Street.

(Yes, The Daily Mail and every word of it true!)

ionesmum · 01/05/2005 15:34

Tinker - the Green party aren't against close co-operation with the EU and want to have a common foreign policy in line with Europe rather than siding with the US. However, we are also against a European Federal state as envisaged in the draft constitution and will be campaigning for a No vote. The reason for this is because we believe as many decisions as possible should be taken locally and transparently ('think global, act local'), rather than by unelected beaurocrats in a centralised government. If you take just the UK, we can't manage even to get interest rates to balance our own economy - too low and house prices rise (particularly hitting those on low and average incomes in the South), as at the moment; too high and it hits what is left of our manufacturing industry (particularly affecting the North). If one interest rate can't work for a country as small as ours, it can't work for a continent as vast as Europe. The Portuguese economy is in a terrible way because of penalties due to the Euro and poverty is a real issue there atm.

Tinker · 01/05/2005 20:42

Thanks ionesmum. So they would want to leave the EU then?

bossykate · 01/05/2005 21:09

i still haven't decided - have been a labour voter (but not a party member) since 18 - but despite the numerous good things they have done i can't get over iraq and the arrogance with which that issue has been dealt with. can't bear the tories. mixed feelings about the libdems. green as a protest vote? maybe.

Caligula · 01/05/2005 22:07

Amazingly, I actually agree with JoolsToo and the Daily Mail! Everything about having to re-elect Labour is deeply depressing.

Which doesn't just show how awful TB and Labour are, it shows how bloody awful our political system and the main parties in it are. The alternative to this mendacious, manipulative little creep is another mendacious manipulative little creep, who would have Oliver Letwin as his chancellor instead of Gordon Brown.

No wonder people can't be bothered to vote.

JoolsToo · 01/05/2005 23:23

(I think!)

ionesmum · 01/05/2005 23:31

Tinker, tbh I don't know exactly what we would do, but I know we are pushing for a complete change in the way Brussels is run.

Caligula - there is a choice. Can you imagine how different things might be if everyone who said that they will vote Labour just to keep out the Tories actually voted for someone else?

juniperdewdrop · 01/05/2005 23:39

a)labour
b)lib dem
c)iraq
d)ewwwwwwww no ta

juniperdewdrop · 02/05/2005 20:01

Just had an aquaintance labour councillor hovering around the door earlier and had to say I wasz voting labour God I'm such a coward. Glad dh was indoors or he'd have told him we're not. dh isn't voting at all for the first time.