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How will you vote on May 5th?

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victoriapeckham · 12/04/2005 18:36

Just wondered. A little bit political...
a) how did you vote last time (if at all?)
b) how will you vote this time (if at all)?
c) what to you is the deciding issue of this election?
d) if you had to make love (not war) with one politician (past, present, senior or backbench?) who would it be?

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victoriapeckham · 15/04/2005 12:50

OK

a) Labour
b) sigh, heavy-heart, Labour
c) poverty, education, enviroment
d) as I said before Alistair Campbell, but when he was all strutting and powerful, not now he s a bit of media saddo.

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muminlondon · 15/04/2005 13:29

I take it you don't agree with Lib Dem then VP? I think 50% income tax is a good idea, but I think the local income tax sounds bureaucratic and unfair (though I didn't read the details). Why should a retired old lady in a mansion with thousands in the bank pay significantly less than a family of 6 in a tiny house in the same area? How come they have any more disposable income? It'll end up being some terrible mish mash of means testing plus number of rooms, etc.

But I'll vote Lib Dem because they'll never get in power anyway, we just need more balance in parliament and my vote might be effective where I live.

muminlondon · 15/04/2005 13:51

can we believe the result anyway? According to the BBC 20,000 postal votes have been registered In Blackburn. Jack Straw's majority in Blackburn is 9,249. A Labour councillor there has already been jailed for forging ballot papers. How much of a coincidence is that??!!

donnie · 15/04/2005 14:58

everyone keeps harping on about all those rich retired people with loads of cash, but what about all the poor ones like my dad who just about makes ends meet on his state pension plus the lowly one he gets from his years as a civil servant. He lives in a poky high rise council flat but because it is in Inner London and a borough where some of the spots are des res ( Islington) his council tax is sky high and well beyond his means.And there are plenty of people worse off than him.He did not 'choose to buy this home' as fsmail's posting suggests all people do: he has never been able to afford to buy and this is where the council has put him, he has no choice in the matter.Anyone who thinks the council tax system is fair is barking!

muminlondon · 15/04/2005 15:14

I think there should be a better rebate system for those on a state pension anyway.

ionesmum · 15/04/2005 22:05

I think what really gets me about Labour is the way they merrily fuck up this country's education system, yet so many of them have been privately educated and have enjoyed free university educcation. Tony Crossland, who originally brought in comprehensives, was an public school/Oxbridge boy. Thanks to him three generations of children have had their futures knackerd by the failed idealogical experiment of 'comprehensive' education. When grammar schools existed more children from state schools were admitted to Oxbridge than from independent schools. We all know what's happened since. Now we have Tonly Blair and Ruth Kelly (both privately educated - what a surprise) tinkering around with something that is beyond repair. The Tories are just as bad - they could have done something about it when they were in power but didn't because of teh cost - but at least we should really have expected no different. We should from Labour and they do not deliver. They are a moral vacuum.

BTW when I said earlier that I admire Simon Hughes and Kate Hoey I would like to point out that that is as politicians. I do not want to shag either of them, although I'm sure if I were a bloke I would find Kate very alluring.

But AC????? It'd be like fancying the playground bully!!!!!

ionesmum · 15/04/2005 22:05

As you can see, my comprehensive education has done wonders for my spelling.

Prufrock · 15/04/2005 22:44

My view of teaching is not deluded Donnie - it is formed by coming from a family where my father, 3 of my 4 aunts and 3 of my grandparents are teachers. I am not in any way attacking the profession.
I also need to clarify my point - I am not saying that extra effort leads to extra income - but that extra income means extra effort. My father as HOY has 3 RP. Which gives him an extra 3 hours a week of non contact time. And it takes far more than 3 hours to look after the needs of the 225 kids in his year. So the extra salary definately comes at the expense of a whole lot of extra effort.

zebraX · 15/04/2005 22:47

Is that really VPm in the photo she posted, with Matthew whatever his name? Am I the only one to get excited about that, or is she having us (me) on?

I don't vote in UK, but we're in a LibDem-Conservative marginal seat, so could be exciting....

Cam · 15/04/2005 23:08

Glad someone else has picked up on the AC fancying thing - what's that all about - he's one of the nastiest people in a whole spectrum of nasties

Prufrock · 15/04/2005 23:20

What Cam - and that doesn't make you want to leap into bed with him? We are talking a quick shag here - not long term relationship

JoolsToo · 15/04/2005 23:23

standards!

ionesmum · 15/04/2005 23:27

I like men with standards - it's why I married dh!

ionesmum · 15/04/2005 23:28

sorry - have a feeling I'v e unwittingly made a rude joke somehow...

jemimah · 16/04/2005 19:12

Does anyone have husbands, or relatives in the army. I think the war in Iraq was enough to prove Tony Blair is cut out for it. The real politicians/parties (the ones that truly care) are the ones the people aren't interested. The ones that keep it realistic and don't make too many promises no one can keep. You know a crap one when they promise the earth as you know they can't give it. I think the majority of politicians do that job for fame, not to help the people. I think there is too much confusion about who we should vote for and why, they should spend more time explainig their issues...in english!! Hope I've not offended anyone?

jemimah · 16/04/2005 19:19

it was supposed to say tony blair ISN'T cut out for it! My typing gets worse!

ionesmum · 16/04/2005 21:07

jemimah, I think our armed forces are fab and it really pisses me off to see them having to risk their lives whilst the politicians lie about why they are fighting in the first place.

Tony Blair doesn't just promise the earth, he promises heaven too.

And I felt deeply patronised by the appeal to 'school gate mums' this week. Wtf???

jemimah · 16/04/2005 21:17

My hubby is in the army and I am so lucky that he didn't need to go out there. I don't know what I would have done if he had of done.

munz · 16/04/2005 21:23

jem yes my DH is out in iraq, well he's due to fly home tomorrow thank god, he's been on standby to go since it all kicked off and tbh we got fed up of him being toldf every 6 months he was going so in the end he volenteered so we would be able to get it out the way. I've got a thread going if u wanna have a moan about the army/DHE.

voting - me i'm raving looney (only cos it's a waste of a vote but I can still moan about the state of the country) I would vote UKIP but apparently I can't, somthing to do with DH's security checks??

munz · 16/04/2005 21:25

did I support the war - no I didn't, do I like TB no I think he's a mong.

munz · 16/04/2005 21:32

a) lib dem
b) seriously not decided yet favours UKIP
c) Immigration and the armed forces policys
d) our local candidate for the county he's the green party, v yummy!

jemimah · 16/04/2005 21:32

Its nice to hear some that. I was beginning to think the whole country was being Brainwashed by tony blair. I'm glad your DH is soon coming home, must be a worrying time for you.x

munz · 16/04/2005 21:42

yep u and me both I just hope we don't have any 'friendly' fire or problems now on the way home, should be in the UK early hours monday morning.

just looked at the manifestos from the link below - quick question, how r UKIp planning on getting extra money into the government if they raise borrowing to reduce taxes? reading that i'm unsure if they've thought there plans thru properly, will have to watch some of the PBC's on channel 5.

jemimah · 16/04/2005 21:44

Its unlikely that any of the parties can really do what they are planning. I have never voted, but then its only now that I have actually started to see how the things affect me. (I'm 20)
I think your DH is brave.

munz · 16/04/2005 21:46

he's not particually, it's his job isn't it, all I care about is him coming home safe. I don't vote in the local elections but do in the general after all how can u moan about the state of the country if u don't vote and get ur say in?