itv news in a min somethi9ng abtou absent fathers who do not provide child maintenence could lose thier passports and driving licences?

[piratecat]

has someone been reading my mind, and could they please add 'cut off his legs' to that.

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on now

i saw this earlier. In some cases it might not make much of a difference if any. My exp drives for a living so him losing his licence would cause him to lose his job. He'd go on JSA until he got his license back as he wont consider doing any other type of work or a job that pays under £7/£8 an hour.
I think they'd have to put smething attached to there JSA where they have to take any available job for it to work.

i know as it is if hes on JSA CSA can only take £5 a week if he isnt having shared care (doesnt't) and cant take anymore even if backpayments are owed. I'd be intrested to see how this works out.
Theoretically i shouldnt have any problems as theres a deductions from earnings order in place. So down to his emplyer to send the money into CSA.

it wouldn't make a difference to many though. surely it would be more logical to automatically deduct it from benefits or wages.

How do things stand now if you split up and the dad refuses to take a job?

Does he just "get away" with not paying to support his kids?

Yes, except he has to pay £5 a week. And thsi is all assuming children only live with mothers and fathers pay. Plenty of children live with their father and the mother pays or care is shared so let's not be sexist about it in 2009.

Heaven forfend!

I think it would be more logical in some ways nappy. Would then have the problem of all the employers sending the payments in on time and informing CSA what amount is from whom. I think its a way of trying to get NRP's to do it themselves.

Hmm I can understand why some parents begrudge paying maintenance though. A friend of a friend's DS was conceived when an ex pricked holes in the condom to try and trap him He was never part of the decision in conceiving that baby so in some ways why should he have to pay toward him?

And what about parents who have exes who won't allow them contact with their children? Those that disappear without telling anyone where they've gone.

Oh they can take away driving licences and property when it gets really nasty now - my friend has been through all this - bastard moved to Canada to get out of paying anything!

This will not change lives at all - the absent parent will say they can't work without their licence and do you think the passport agency has enough nouse not to just issue a new passport.

Best thing to do would be enforced castration for parents who do not pay - but then I have seen too many mothers left with feck all whilst their self employed or lying scumbag ex lives the high life!

so why ae you all having babies with men like this???

I heard this on the news today and thought it was a very bad idea.

unless there's form (your ex has a child already and doesn't pay for that one) then you tend to trust people when you decide to have a baby with them. it's really not just silly women choosing the 'wrong' man.

the only thing that confiscating passport and driving licence would do for me is a sense of '' that his gf can't take him abroad on holidays that she pays for quite so often. confiscation of driving licence could make it more difficult for absent parents to see their children, so is a bad idea.

"so why ae you all having babies with men like this???"

ermm perhaps because in general you don't know what a twanker your DP/DH is going to be until it's too late.

"why did you have a baby with him? " is one of the nastiest and most unsisterly things a woman can say to another woman.

My up her own arse with her perfect life neighbour said it to me recently. She, of course, was far too smart...

well I have far from perfect life but I did marry a good honest kind man.

I'm not saying every situation is the same but this ex bashing on MN irritates me. The CSA is not a fair way to work out maintenance so I am not at all suprised some men pull against that. Taking more punititive actions will push men urther away when they should be looking at how to even the system up a bit.

Everyone has 20/20 hindsight.

well I married a good honest, kind man,.............he turned out (many years down the line) to be a bit of wanker.

not some of my neigbours who repeat same mistake over and over again when the writing is clearly on the wall.

i think the way the CSA work out maintenance isn't fair either - it's far too lenient towards absent parents! i probably spend about 75% of my income on keeping a roof over my DCs head, feeding them, clothing them etc lets face it - theres 4 of us and i have nothing left at the end of the month. the CSA says my ex gets to keep 75% of his income for himself! not that i see any of it anyway.

actually come to think of it most people I know marry a man that appears to be a good honest man..........

My dad seemed like a "good catch" for 20yrs before he revealed his true colours (complete tosser) to my mum.........sadly she took him back after initially throwing him out, and they're still together now..........)

Connie??

Ex bashing?