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Prince Harry caught on video using a racist slur

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sherby · 10/01/2009 22:44

what do we think about this one then?

You would think after the nazi thing he would've learnt his lesson no?

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bagsforlife · 11/01/2009 17:22

I shouldn't imagine Prince Harry is the slightest bit concerned about the furore this has caused. He's probably having a good laugh over it with his fellow officers, as are Camilla, Charles et al. They just think the rest of us are 'over sensitive, touchy feeley types' I expect (although I expect they have a more, erm, colourful phrase for it).

ahfeckit · 11/01/2009 19:48

i agree with a previous poster, just like his granddad...not a great difference really. he's royal and thinks he'll get away with anything.yeah right...

Rubysmom08 · 11/01/2009 20:28

He shouldn't have said but then I don't think there are many people who have not used that word... it's not like he is a role model, its crap news and can't believe it has made the front page of sunday papers when chidren are being killed in Gaza. Sad really- but then crap sells

seeker · 11/01/2009 21:11

I can safely say that I have never, ever called anyone a Paki! And I am sure that lots of other people on here could say the same.

nancy75 · 11/01/2009 21:13

agree with seeker on this one, i have never ever called anybody a paki, or used any other racist term when talking about another person.

badassmarthafocker · 11/01/2009 21:15

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LiffeyMermaid · 11/01/2009 21:18

It's not just the Paki imo, which could be an abreviation (well, it could be argued) but the our little friend bit too, so condescending. This man was his colleague, not the janitor's labrador.

Seeker I'm with you. If they are going to charter helicopters to transport their £500 shoes then we'll stop taking the piss out of them!!

Obviously, their is a hierarchy of wankers in the royal family. Princess Anne for example is just a blunt snob, and not a profligate champagne guzzler, which is less of a burden to british public in general!

herbietea · 11/01/2009 21:34

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MouseMate · 11/01/2009 21:44

Prince Harry's nickname thru Sandhurst was 'Fuckin Gwah'. It is likely he has been called far worse, Prince or not.

I doubt he is actually racist - yes it is a racist term, but knowing him, I doubt he even thought about it.....he comes across as a cadet desperate to fit in, so will certainly use terms he has heard to make himself less royal, more 'one of the lads'.

Also suggest the 'Raghead' comment was used in place of 'Taliban' rather than anything else....especially as this all took place 3 yrs ago.

Yep, agree it is an 'Army' thing, have heard many, many racist terms used - but not by soldiers being racist (v hard to explain - but to give an example: Soldier A (white) used to say to Soldier B (Fijian) that he'd give him a 'White Eye', Soldier B would counter that he would 'Fcuk your missis with my bigger cock'..... on a battlefield a couple of years ago Soldier A saved Soldier B's life - Soldier B has since asked Soldier A to be his sons Godfather.... Two years on and they still have the same conversations - expect that Soldier B has been promoted so he now has a 'bigger cock and more stripes')

What I'm waffling on about I suppose is that I am more concerned that a fellow soldier has disclosed this to the papers, rather than being bothered by the incident. Suggests to me that Harry does not have the loyalty of his comrades, which is worrying..... does the whistleblower have another agenda?

LiffeyMermaid · 11/01/2009 21:47

'knowing him'

knowing him??

Sorry, can you clarify?!

noonki · 11/01/2009 21:47

herbieta - there may be more newsworthy stories I agree but it is very possible that he could be our king one day

and unfortunately would then have a lot of influence in this country.

Liffey I too find the 'little friend' bit almost as insulting.

MouseMate · 11/01/2009 21:48

Oh and I have a pretty horrible nickname (to most). But its been mine for almost 20 years now, so I doubt I'll ever lose it (especially as I tend to introduce myself by it - have raised a few eyebrows

MouseMate · 11/01/2009 21:50

Good lord - not knowing him that way (I think you mean) - I've never shagged a gwah

Blu · 11/01/2009 22:01

Sits back and opens beer since PolicyWonk is saying everythng I want to say...

LiffeyMermaid · 11/01/2009 22:02

What's a gwah?

SmallShips · 11/01/2009 22:18

I agree that, yes, he is a bit of a plank, but its military life, horrible nicknames are all part of it(should have heard mine). MouseMate is right in saying he was probably just trying to fit in. Raghead is a horribe term, but was used to describe the taliban by all 3 forces. Can't believe it even made the news tbh.

minxofmancunia · 11/01/2009 22:39

I hate this "that's just how it is in the miltary" "that's army life" kind of stuff as if this normalises it and makes it ok.

If this is normal for the military then they're a bunch of t**ts no excuses, no amonu of cultural norming can make this acceptable or ok.

I've met families where effectively beating children is "just how it is round our way" culturally normalised but still horrible and and basically not acceptable.

I've never used the word paki, only one of my (pakistani) friends has used it when bantering with her sisters, this is a different context and does not make it acceptable to be used outside that context.

the one time I heard it used on a psychiatric ward but another member of staff (talking about an asian girl who'd become psychotic due to domestic abuse her husbands family had put her through, in her presence), i reported him, itmade life as a newly qualified staff nurse on that ward v difficult as all the other (racist, small minded) staff sided with him, but it had to be done.

seeker · 12/01/2009 08:28

And it was NOT used as a nickname! I am prepared to accept - maybe - that unpleasant nicknames are par for the course in the military, and if he has said something like "This is Jock, this is Shorty, this is Paki, this is Taff....."I might have though it was just part of the "culture". I think Paki is actually on a different level to the other names, but hey ho.

But what he ACTUALLY said was "And this is our little Paki friend, Ahmed" Very different.

Rubysmom08 · 12/01/2009 08:41

so minxofmancunia you Pakistani friend called it his sisters and that isnot the same? Couldn't 'Ahmed' have referred to himself as a 'Paki' which would have in turn prompted the Prince to assume that in the context of friendly banter, army or not, it was OK. Was it infact Ahmed who made a complaint- no it wasn't.

I appreciate it is racist but us Brits as so scarily politically correct it is horrendous, surely we should be more concerned about what we do to each than what we actually call each other.

And isn't mocking his ginger somewhat of an insult, a predujice? Just as personal as the colour of someones skin

LeninGrad · 12/01/2009 08:51

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chrimbospirit · 12/01/2009 08:54

I like Prince Harry I don't think he was being racist, it's not just what you say but how you say it that counts and he clearly was not being nasty if you watch the video.

herbietea · 12/01/2009 08:58

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seeker · 12/01/2009 09:28

"it's not just what you say but how you say it that counts"

No it isn't!

LeninGrad · 12/01/2009 09:32

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wannaBe · 12/01/2009 09:34

I really think this whole thing has been blown out of all proportion. No paki isn't a nice word, but let's look at the evidence:

Harry, and others, are seen on video. Are they bullying someone? Are they being agressive? No, they're engaging in banter with one another, and included in that banter is someone from pakistan. Is he being intimidated? it would appear not. And it is entirely possible that this particular individual is quite libral and really doesn't see it as the offensive term that some others do, in the same way as I for instance have no issue with people making jokes about the blind, but others who share my disability might find that offensive.

Had the video been of Harry talking about paki's in a negative sense then of course that is an entirely different matter, but "harry used the word paki once three years ago," is hardly worthy of headline news.

And what of the guy making the video? Was he heard saying "hey guys that's not really appropriate language is it," oh no - he waited three years and then decided to cash in by approaching the NOTW. Clearly he wasn't offended by it as it took him three years to do something about it.