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Tory expelled for dressing as Madeleine McCann

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RockinSockBunnies · 09/01/2009 18:53

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Does the reaction strike anyone else as a little OTT? Of course it's in bad taste, but the point of the evening was that it was a Bad Taste Party. Friends of mine have been to these dressed in a variety of outfits (Nazi uniforms - the party was held by Jewish people in a Jewish area), one went dressed as an anorexic, two people stuck themselves together as conjoined twins.

Obviously it's sick and twisted, but that's the point of the party. A black sense of humour sometimes helps people get through life.

Will probably get flamed for this but I think it's a bit of an over-reaction to boot someone out of the Tory Party for going to a Bad Taste Party wearing something in bad taste. Mind you, the guy was an idiot for posting photos on facebook if he aspired to a political career

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ravenAK · 10/01/2009 00:57

No, not automatically.

I couldn't see any humour in taking the piss out of the MM/baby P cases myself - I have 3 very small dc.

There is going to be an empathic, visceral reaction, in those circumstances, which some rather dim, sheltered young man barely out of his teens just isn't going to 'get'.

I don't think he is anything more awful than a prize wally.

But I can quite see the YC deciding he's a liability to be dumped.

vixma · 10/01/2009 01:12

How hidious, a child went missing and was not found. Not a Nazi dictator etc. Sick.

WinkyWinkola · 10/01/2009 08:05

What a pillock.

foxytocin · 10/01/2009 08:21

A bad taste party leaves a lot to be desired, imo.

I can only suspect that a lot of good fortune in the attendees' lives have given them an empathy bypass. Maybe it is because they have never had to shop in the same shopping center as the majority of the population of Crewe.

I count myself as lucky that I don't run around in that sort of circle.

Looking at that photo, I see a lot of ponce-tastic faces.

stroppyknickers · 10/01/2009 08:38

Immature people do things like this (and all the jokes that do the rounds on email/ text after any tragedy because they are unable to fully appreciate what they are doing, and the wider emotional context. Normally you wd think twat and move on, but in seeking to represent the public, the guy has proved he is unable to, so no, it's not an over reaction to expel him.

LynetteScavo · 10/01/2009 08:56

It's people like this that have traditionaly ended up running the country.

Hopefully things are changing.

HelenBurns · 10/01/2009 09:00

It's vile.

It only takes one sick bastard to suggest it and the others just have to be thick as fuck to go along with it and think they're being funny.

I hope they regret it.

Who on earth thinks up these things?

CharleeinChains · 10/01/2009 09:01

I don't think he should have been expelled.

I think it was stupid/insensitive but doesn't warrant being expelled - he shouuld have been given a public telling off to humiliate him but thats all. IMO.

PinkChick · 10/01/2009 09:04

what a piece of shit!..its not even dark humour its vile and completely NOT funny in any way, same goes to the fucking idiot who thought it would be a laugh to dress upa s baby P!...and these people are trying to run our country!!???..what kind of pathetic wanker would think something like that would be in the slightest bit funny!..IME bad taste was naff clothes, not miocking the dissapearance of a 4 yr old child or the death of a baby!..maybe im on a different planet!
If he'd blacked his face or wore a hitler uniform there would have been outrage!

DumbledoresGirl · 10/01/2009 09:11

Someone who is so enraged by this, please say what you would find acceptable for someone to wear at a bad taste party. Surely the whole theme of the party is offensive rather than what this one person chose to wear for it.

Sure it was insensitive and crass and everything else, but this was only young people at a private party, he was not parading in front of the McCanns in his costume. I cannot see why he should be expelled from any group, except perhaps the Madeleine McCann support group. I have never written this before, but I think this argument for me counts for this reaction:

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DumbledoresGirl · 10/01/2009 09:13

And please, don't anyone suggest that the horror of the Madeleine McCann case in anyway comes anywhere near to the horror of the Holocaust. Otherwise I migh suspect you of anti-semitism or Neo-nazism.

ssd · 10/01/2009 09:13

why have a bad taste party at all if the outfits are so vile? whats the point?

HelenBurns · 10/01/2009 09:19

DG - I'm not personally particularly outraged at the MM outfit issue here. It's the whole idea of the bad taste party.

It seems totally awful in every way, really.

I always thought it was like TE said, you went in yukky clothes from a different decade or something. That would be funny.

DumbledoresGirl · 10/01/2009 09:31

I would agree that the idea of a bad taste party is......in bad taste. But that is the point I presume? Hey, you know what, young people, especially young men, especially certain types of students, maybe even, dare I say it, those with a bit of money behind them (though I do not think it is only rich YC who you can say this about) can be exceptionally lacking in taste, sensitivity, and diplomacy. That is the nature of many young people.

I am not saying I think that what he did was funny or laudable or nice, but he did it in private, with some mates, and whole point was to be tasteless. I think he achieved the aim very well actually. Expelling him from the YC (or whatever it is called) is a bit of an extreme reaction imo.

And I am really really angry that anyone might put the tragedy of Madeleine McCann on the same footing as the systematic and mass destruction of millions of people. Get a grip!

foxytocin · 10/01/2009 09:34

Young people of this age have given their lives to defend the rights of these arseholes to behave like well, arseholes. I expect a lot more from young people who are old enough to join the tory party, vote and givetheir lives in battle like some of their peers do.

some young people will always behave as badly as we allow them to get away with. all the more reason to have high expectations of them.

Lulumama · 10/01/2009 09:36

agree foxytocin.

what i find unacceptable about it is that the madelaine mccann story shook the world. and it is being treated as a joke by people who want to be in public office/running the country eventually. i don;t want people with so little empahty, intellect sense of reason being involved in running the country !

madwomanintheattic · 10/01/2009 09:38

absolutely in agreement with dg - wondering how some of your minds work to rank Harry's Nazi costume as somehow better than mm or baby p... the disappearance of one small girl is somehow worse than the holocaust? weird old world we live in...

let's have a little sense, people! i do understand that some of you may identify far more closely with the mccann family and feel the jape a little more keenly as a result, but that actually says a lot more about you than it does about any tory lol.

seen far worse. 20 years hanging around the military means it takes approx 20 seconds to get the first joke text message about any tragedy you can name.

foxytocin · 10/01/2009 09:41

yes, not exactly outraged because of any of the individual costumes here. I am outraged at the moral vacuum that can find these ideas funny.

could I suggest going to a bad taste party dressed up as a jar of Marmite?

FioFio · 10/01/2009 09:47

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DumbledoresGirl · 10/01/2009 09:47

Thinking about this further, I was slightly outraged by people saying "he looks like a tosser too" - commenting on his photo. Well, I don't know what makes a young man look like a tosser to you, but to me, he looks like a pleasant, respectable young man. Of course, it is not pleasant or respectable to make fun of a child tragedy but we are talking purely about how he looks. I would rather my sons ended up looking like him than like the thousands of tattooed, shaven headed dull witted looking men I see every day.

Has it occurred to you the reason he does not share your sensitivities regarding a child abduction is because he is not yet a father himself (another point in his favour imo) and that when he is older and has children and is ready for political office, he will not be the same person he is today?

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solidgoldsoddingjanuaryagain · 10/01/2009 10:04

I must admit that Madeleine McCann strikes me as a silly choice for a fancy dress outfit, as good fancy dress should be obvious, and that would be one of those outfits that you have to spend all night explaining to people.
But then I approve of sick humour as a good way of slapping down the sort of people who are always getting squawkily officious and witlessly sentimental over stuff that is nothing to do with them anyway.

violethill · 10/01/2009 10:25

Good post from solidgold and dumbledoresgirl.

The guy sounds like a tosser (well, young Tory, no surprises there) but some of the reactions on here are just not keeping it in perspective.

'And I am really really angry that anyone might put the tragedy of Madeleine McCann on the same footing as the systematic and mass destruction of millions of people. Get a grip! '

  • completely agree.
chopchopbusybusy · 10/01/2009 10:43

I agree with those that have said bad taste parties used to mean dressing in mismatched clothes.

solidgoldsoddingjanuaryagain · 10/01/2009 10:47

Well, let this be a lesson to the harder of thinking among you. The next time you are invited to a bad taste party, in order to prevent social embarrassment or expulsion from the Tory party, do check with the hostess whether it's bad-taste-meaning-luridly-mismatched-attire or bad-taste-meaning-dress-as-someone-shocking.

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