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Geogina Baillies sell out to the sun

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ssummers · 30/10/2008 09:10

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1872523.ece

Doesnt this sort of stink of hypercritism? when she said I wont comment until I speak to my 'agent' - was what she meant - I could make some money out of this - I know if every time I speak I have The Sun logo above my head I will bask in the glory?

Isnt talking about how rubbish RB is in bed stooping to the very level that we are accusing RB of? Will RBs granfather not have to read this article and will they not be upset? Sachs has been very dignified about the whole inccident though it has to be said.

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dittany · 30/10/2008 23:20

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Thomcat · 30/10/2008 23:20

HELLO, sorry,

does anyone here think that it should really have come to this - the controller of Radio 2 walking?

Heathcliffscathy · 30/10/2008 23:20

i've heard them saying untold more offensive things than that. offence is in the eye of the beholder, or the ear of the listener isn't it?

and there were two offended people.

and andrew sachs wasn't one of them. he just asked them to tone it down.

onebatmotherofNormanBates · 30/10/2008 23:21

None of us has any logical reason to feel less than positively towards a woman who's had her sexual history broadcast against her will.

If we continue to do so, it might reasonably ask, Why?

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 30/10/2008 23:21

Where on earth is anyone sneering at AS?

morningpaper · 30/10/2008 23:22

who were brought up with different humour

like the funny thick Spanish routine?

those were the days my friend

no one is sneering at Sachs, we are merely suggesting, by using irony, that the "elderly" are not a weak defenceless subsection of society that should be automatically pitied

Heathcliffscathy · 30/10/2008 23:22

onebat you are barking up the wrong tree in the wrong forest here.

i don't feel negatively about GB. i think it is unfortunate that a woman that is great at her job has been sacked in her (and her grandfathers name).

IorekMandelson · 30/10/2008 23:23

Yes, really, onebat.

Mabanana I don't see anyone sneering at Andrew Sachs on here. I see them sneering at his portrayal as a feeble old man and the corresponding rise in moral outrage.

morningpaper · 30/10/2008 23:23

NO Thomcat it should not

The feminist angle of THAT I can see

beaniescreamyb · 30/10/2008 23:23

He was offended, I really do believe that. But I think all he wanted was an apology... that's what he asked for before the Mail on Sunday article. He has accepted the apologies from all concerned and clearly wants to move on.

Heathcliffscathy · 30/10/2008 23:23

thomcat OBVIOUSLY she shouldn't have gone. but the daily mail and max can make anything happen.

dittany · 30/10/2008 23:24

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jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 30/10/2008 23:24

I don't feel less than positively towards a woman whose sexual history has been broadcast partly against her will.(She did provide some of the details herself- don't feel less than positively towards her for that either).

I do think that if you state that you want it all to die down for the sake of your grandfather, giving an interview in which you provide further details is an odd choice.

Upwind · 30/10/2008 23:24

If the controller had been doing her job, this nasty jape would not have been broadcast. At a minimum she would have apologised as soon as Andrew Sachs complained and taken disciplinary action against the culprits then, including whoever signed off on the show.

She could have prevented this spiraling out of control. She failed to do that and made the BBC look like it was out of touch and that its elite presenters were untouchable.

Heathcliffscathy · 30/10/2008 23:26

HE DIDN'T COMPLAIN. HE WAS SENT A TRANSCRIPT.

[lies down in middle of road hoping for car]

Thomcat · 30/10/2008 23:26

I'm interested to know if the people who are outraged on GB's behalf, disgusted by the phonecall etc etc think that it should have resulted in the controller of Radio 2 walking?

WilyWombat · 30/10/2008 23:27

I am amazed that the 15 year old boys in my class who really annoyed me (all that talk of who they had "shagged" in the park and drawing of willies on the blackboard) were in fact edgy comedians...I thought they were just puerile prats.

RB - undeniably clever - not my cup of tea, dont really expect him to behave any better than this.

JR - funny, smug - lets see how he feels about the first "I shagged Johanthon Ross's daughter story". I cant help thinking his wife willl have given him hell over this.

I think if Georgina had wanted to do a kiss and tell she would have done it before this, she is young and at that age I think a large proportion of us would not have decided upon the wise reaction (silence) but would have gone with hers "the sex was crap"

The buck here though should really stop with the producer of the show who was told by Andrew Sachs that he did not want the tape broadcast and the person at the BBC who ultimately approved its broadcast.

Ivegotaheadache · 30/10/2008 23:28

Thomcat who would have decided that it was ok to broadcast it? I assume the actual controller wouldn't do it, that someone else would oversee things like that, is that right?

beaniescreamyb · 30/10/2008 23:28

"HE DIDN'T COMPLAIN. HE WAS SENT A TRANSCRIPT"

oooh - is there news I missed? is the report out?

morningpaper · 30/10/2008 23:29

I think he was played the tapes over his phone

morningpaper · 30/10/2008 23:29

(But there is some confusion about it)

Thomcat · 30/10/2008 23:29

Do you seriously think the controller a) knew anything about the phonecall until it kicked off and b) sat on her haunches and did nothing cos she couldn't be arsed. The BBC would have been on the phone to each other, in meetings working out ho best to deal with this as soon as it kicked off. There will have been internal things to sort out and discuss before anyone at the BBC could say a word to the public.

Upwind · 30/10/2008 23:30

Andrew Sachs DID COMPLAIN, he was among the first to do so

news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Jonathan-Ross-Russell-Brand-Row-Are-Broadcasting-Standards-Falling -With-Rise-In-Swearing-WebChat/Article/200810415129582

HE WAS SENT A TRANSCRIPT

No he wasn't, they played it to him when he was on a busy street and couldn't hear it. He did not approve it for broadcast, rather he objected and discussed coming to the studio the following week instead.

Why are you making this stuff up?

onebatmotherofNormanBates · 30/10/2008 23:31

"i don't feel negatively about GB. i think it is unfortunate that a woman that is great at her job has been sacked in her (and her grandfathers name)."

so that is your feminist crusade? I agree that it is a great shame that she's resigned. But I and the others who found it offensive are not to blame. The men who broadcast whom one of them fucked are to blame.

Feminists often find themselves at the same end-point as DM readers, for entirely different reasons. But the fact that we are frequently arguing about the same issues surely does not mean that we shoudl shut the fuck up?

Heathcliffscathy · 30/10/2008 23:32

ahem. question being. WHY did it kick off.

i'm off to bed.

dittany, thanks for the humour further down, lightened things up considerably.

policywonk, sorry if my fuck off pissed you off (even more than my non latin illogic)

jimjams, thomcat, mp, iorek et al it's been a pleasure...as always

rest of you, don't forget your papers in the morning ;)