Russell Brand, Jonathan Woss and Andrew Sachs

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3263328/Russell-Brand-and-Jonathan-Ross-joke-radio -phone-calls-just-werent-funny.html

Have we not had a discussion about this? I'm surprised.

Seedy, sordid, unfunny little men pad obscene amounts of money to be obscene.

What's your view?

the thing is they phoned to apologise but carried on leaving lewd messages so even after the first call they didn't think 'oh shit we shouldn't have done that'

Brand's apology on his programme included this "I would like to take this opportunity to issue a personal Russell Brand apology to Andrew Sachs, the great comic actor who played Manuel, for a message Jonathan and I left on his answerphone, but it was quite funny," the Radio 2 presenter told listeners.

Contrite? not a bit of it!

my view... who failed to check the BBC production guidelines? Pre-recorded apparently, so perhaps the blame sould be hurled at the producers!

it wasn't funny.

he should be sacked.

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has no one here ever laughed at peter cook and dudley moore?

JR is waay past his sell by date. He looks like the oldest swinger in town. Watching him sucking up to yoof and misbehaving alongside them to try and look young makes my skin crawl. He is an overpaid plonker.

Russell I have much more time for, but his appeal will also wane in time. He has tried so hard to do all the right things lately careerwise but he always treads such a thin line.

He's gone too far with this - inevitably he was going to with something at some point given his history of going ott. If he doesn't learn from it his career will go down as faster than it went up.

Did Peter Cook and Dudley Moore ring up 78 year old actors and leave messages on their answerphone saying they'd 'enjoyed your granddaughter over the couch'? I must have missed that one.
Stupid, cruel, misogynist, disrespectful, infantile.
Ross has a sad case of arrested development.

it wasn't funny - it was both of them acting over the top and driving each other like stupid teenage boys trying to show they're cool, and not thinking about any consequences to their actions.

Sadly the BBC is unlikely to take any action against them - at worst a slap on the wrist and so this behaviour will be shown as ok.

Andrew Sachs is the only person who comes off well in this and I'm glad he made a complaint as it must have been horrible listening to those two wankers comments.

I have heard the debate but not the show but I've just read the transcript and I am . WTF were they thinking? Blokes pissed on a stag night would have more class and more sense. I can see why Sachs is furious. They picked on someone (a lot older) who by all accounts is a real gentleman, has a different sense of humour and is extremely dignified and not in the least bit attention seeking. Not that that should make any difference but it feels worse somehow.

What a pair of tossers. I'm not a particular fan of Ross, can take him or leave him. Much prefer his brother Paul actually. But that scruffy, crude, egotistical, talentless arsehole Brand has really proved what he's made of. And Ross has shown himself up to be no better, although, as has been said, he bloody well ought to be being a father of daughters.

They won't dare sack Ross (although they should), there's too much money invested in him but Brand (and Ross) should have his arse fired. Their apology was a complete piss take as well.

And I've never seen any sign of Brand being 'very intelligent'. You have to know how to use it for that to be true. Intelligence isn't just about IQ numbers.

I cannot stand Jonathan Ross and have been on a thread on Mumsnet when we all harrumphed and tutted over his comment "Please tell me you fucked her" to Michael Aspel when MA was talking about a Miss World contestant. It was the second reference to fucking someone or other in the show.

Last night I heard an interviewer on a phone-in arguing (or maybe playing Devil's advocate?) that everyone loves Ross because so many people watch his show. Well, actually, I think millions of people watch his show because of the quality of his GUESTS, not Ross himself, who is embarrassing, desperate, twattish, etc etc.

Am very sorry to hear about Russell Brand's involvement cos I do love him - although his new addiction, to fame, is rather tedious.

what aout this georgina? she must be feeling pretty humiliated

His grandaughter is in a band called "The Satanic Sluts" so I would imagine she won't give a toss about what's being said.

Here is a picture of Georgina. You can see that she is a shy retiring type and the Andrew is right to be worried about her good name sullied...

The Delicate Flower, Georgina

Actually, just being facetious. No matter that Georgina choses to parade around in underwear with a high synthetic content. Doesn't mean what they said was right - especially to her lovely 78 year old granddad.

I agrree entirely with ekamouse who has said everything I wish to say

dunno, they were so sniggering and disrespectful of her, totally objectifying her. that's pretty crushing, no matter your taste in underwear.

It was a really crap thing to do and they should get a lot more than a slap on the wrist...

Some BBC top nob (Will Wyatt perhaps?) was on PM today saying that the problem probably lay with their production staff being too in awe of them, or too closely identified with them, to make proper editorial judgements (which would obviously have resulted in this episode being binned before it made it to air).

I think maybe they ought to be sacked, or at least give back a laaarge proportion of their preposterous wages.

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Chances are though is that he probably has slept with her?

HankyHunker - would that make it okay?

Actually, I agree they should be sacked, or have their wages reduced to a fraction of what they currently are.

ok I totally didn't get that he had slept with her. Read the transcript and he went waaaayyyyy too far. twat.

usually find them both quite amusing but they went tooooo far this time, particularly Ross, somehow you would expect more from him I think?