Russell Brand, Jonathan Woss and Andrew Sachs

[JoolsToo]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3263328/Russell-Brand-and-Jonathan-Ross-joke-radio -phone-calls-just-werent-funny.html

Have we not had a discussion about this? I'm surprised.

Seedy, sordid, unfunny little men pad obscene amounts of money to be obscene.

What's your view?

Now that's a comedy idea that hasn't imo been given a fair hearing..

It's a marvellous excuse for lots of JR-haters to have their say and demand his dismissal, etc. The DM must be coming in their y-fronts that this has landed at their feet.

JR and RB were norty and out of order. Wasn't the first time. They've apologised (well JR has). It's not a capital offence. Sat mornings would be much duller without JR on Radio 2. Does his whole career really need to be hung out to dry over a silly, immature misguided 'prank'?

It was that awful new show 'unbreakable' or whatever it is that made me feel sick. Torture as family entertainment. HOw can anyone find bullying a perfectly nice man entertaining? I am sure JR/RB are role models for the kind of bloke who stuck two fingers up at me and shouted, all contorted with fury as I drove along with my little dd the other day - for no reason at all I could see.

Doubtless their audience find it hilarious that fucknig a woman is something to be remarked upon.

Because fucking women is hilarious isn't it. After all, the right way to feel about having gone to bed with a bloke is embarrassed/ ashamed.

Feminism really is in the doldrums isn't it.

BTW beany, thinking ross and brand are tossers is not the same as being anti the licence fee, so conflating those issues is questionable.

Yes, RB and JR seem to think that 'fucking' a woman is equivalent to cheating her out of something, or tricking her, or scoring a victory over her. And what was that thing that JB was 'singing' - 'she wasn't menstrual'? What was that supposed to mean? Does he really hate women?

Yes, JR is to blame for some road rage idiot

Going to have a bath and an early night.

I suspect you are right Dittany. Actually I'm sure you are. I bet he hoped to spring that on him in conversation.

It's part of the culture that says anyone is 'fair game' and nobody is entitled to respect, as Beany said herself earlier on this thread.

And now heresay about only inviting the GF on because the GD and RB have had sex. Oh my god. Stop, calm down fgs, it's so ott. People are just making mad stuff up now. The words witch and hunt are starting to spring to mind.

without a doubt, dittany, andrew sachs will have been invited on the show in the first place as he has a book/DVD/summat-or-other to flog at the moment. Nothing wrong with that, but it's going a leeeeetle bit OTT to suggest they were OUT TO GET HIM.

i don't want them to be sacked, i must say, i think that would be the wrong thing to do. interesting, though, that JR was the worst offender (and most senior broadcaster) but i do feel that RB is now most in the wrong after his shitty non-apology. that he hasn't thought to at least pretend to be contrite is a bit worrying.

Moomin: "It's a marvellous excuse for lots of JR-haters to have their say and demand his dismissal, etc. The DM must be coming in their y-fronts that this has landed at their feet."

Disliking JR's underlying misogyny is not interchangeable with being a DM-reader.

FWIW I find JR funny, but that's constantly brought up short by the misogyny he habitually displays. Most recent example was his interview with Sarah Thingummy (the shock comic), whom he entirely predictably undermined by inviting her to get her tits out. Just the last in a long line of an increasingly creepy, pervy-grandad-like inability to deal with women as, well, as people, and not as cunts.

does he, moomin? it said in a report i read that he was on to talk to RB and JR about their love of fawlty towers... sounds like a wee bit of a sniggery set up between the boys to me.

Don't let the water out after you've finished thomcat - I'll get in after you. This is getting very silly

onebat, i noticed that DM said sarah silverman bombed... i thought she was hilarious.

JR's been on bad form of late, too Sid James.

I dislike the DM's misogyny far more than JR's. at least JR is overt about his

no really, that was a proper question. does andrew sachs have something he's selling at the mo? that's not what i;d read, that's all.

It makes complete sense. Apparently he's been telling everyone that he had sex with Baille and that she is Andrew Sachs granddaughter (it was mentioned by that tosser Baddiel in a column, I think, and obliquely by that other tosser Chris Moyles on the radio) and was tittering about it with Jonathan Ross just before they made the phone call. Is it sheer coincidence that he fancied chatting with Sachs about 'his career' at this point? Nah, I don't think so.

lol, i don't think that the DM hides its misogyny under a bushel...

oh yes I so much more prefer the racism of the guy who wanted to kill Obama, rather than that of the DM. It's so much more overt and therefore preferable.

Eh? I don't like mysogyny at all actually, wherever it comes from

ok then I'll retract my assumption, if it'll stop the pitchforks from pricking my backside.

If it were racist abuse they'd left, there would have been an immediate apology.

Sexism's fine though.