This is an odd one, Palins 5th child is apparantly her 17 year old daughters?

[jojosmaman]

... according to some reports in the US?

here

I would disagree. There are unpleasant rumours being circulated about Obama, Palin, McCain, Clinton etc because...... they are running for office.

colour, gender, age, sexual orientation? they're all just ammunition, not raison d'etre for the rumours.

StellaDallas "yes you are meant to believe the basic statements a person makes about themselves in the lack of any credible evidence to the contrary."

That seems a little naive when we are talking about a politician.

PersephoneSnape - You were driving yourself to a hospital. Probably the nearest one to you.
She gave a speech, went to the airport. Didnt tell anyone at the airport what the situation was, though she must have known they would never have let her fly if they had known. Got on a plane (and 8 hour flight that stopped off in Seattle) and when she got into Anchorage she didnt even go to the hospital there, but drove for an hour to a smaller unit.
Its astonising that she didnt deliver at some point along that trek.

Sorry to be judgy, but your behaviour sounds very sensible. Hers seems unusual.

John Edwards NEVER 'admitted' being the father of that baby. He did admit having an affair with the baby's mother, but that is a different (though related) issue. I don't know what the truth is and neither does anyone else, except I'd guess, the baby's mother and maybe Mrs Edwards.
As for being a creationist, she, as a fundamentalist Christian, very famously wants state funded schools to teach creationism.
As for being a gay rights supporter. Oh please.
She ONLY vetoed the bill to deny same sex couples equal benefits because it was unconstitional (ie illegal) not because she thought it was wrong. She opposes gay marriage.
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as I said, what would you call a man who opposed abortion rights for pregnant girls raped by their fathers?

John Edwards NEVER 'admitted' being the father of that baby. He did admit having an affair with the baby's mother, but that is a different (though related) issue. I don't know what the truth is and neither does anyone else, except I'd guess, the baby's mother and maybe Mrs Edwards.
As for being a creationist, she, as a fundamentalist Christian, very famously wants state funded schools to teach creationism.
As for being a gay rights supporter. Oh please.
She ONLY vetoed the bill to deny same sex couples equal benefits because it was unconstitional (ie illegal) not because she thought it was wrong. She opposes gay marriage.
64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:npDfwCVYDIYJ:www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,18375 2318375311837538,00.html+sarah+palin+same+sex+benefits&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=21&gl=uk
as I said, what would you call a man who opposed abortion rights for pregnant girls raped by their fathers?

And I pity poor Bristol. Being forced into a teen marriage to save her mother's political ambition.

You couldn't make this stuff up. The ultra-conservative lobby who apparently welcomed her as VP candidate are going to be spitting feathers. They'll be thinking as one 'she should have stayed home & concentrated on being a mother'. She might well step back from the candidacy over this; it's a total farce. She's talked about 'escorting neanderthals back to the cave' but my guess is if she doesn't resign the candidacy she'll be escorted out of the frontline pretty sharpish. And no more female Republican VP candidates for a very long time.

"With all the wit of a stunned trout, thewiltedrose stumbled clumsily into the midst of a discussion . . . "

So....uh.....politics huh?

ok, DP has come up with an even more far out conspiracy theory about the whole son/grandson thing, but I don't feel I can post it on a public forum. but this man has imagination!

come on LittleMyDancing, out with it. I've been reading some pretty heady stuff elsewhere! The whole thing is bonkers enough as it is.

I have seen it suggested that the daughters pregnancy is a ruse. 5 months pregnant, Palin's youngest born 4 months ago. Will daughter's pregnancy go full term etc. In my mind that is not nice. No-one would pretend such things.

oddly, ClairePO is pretty close!

the whole thing is very fishy. the five months pg thing is just too neat an answer to the grandson contention. it makes me even more suspiscious.

yes, I see where that theory's going. Poor kid - what a heap of s**t to have piled on your head so young.

And the baby was born a month early, supposedly.

And SP was invisibly pg in mid-Feb (at c 6 months,) & suddenly very visibly pg a month later, & then the baby suddenly appeared; following the "waters breaking, but not in labour so OK (despite this being 5th child & with potential difficulties) to fly to Anchorage, via Seattle, and not to then deliver at the bigger hospital in Anchorage but drive even further to the little local hospital where her regular doctor - who isn't even licensed at the little local hospital, so I read somewhere - induced the birth" saga.

All the timing is really very very peculiar - we haven't heard the last of this one

it's a bit rubbish, isn't it? that's kind of why I held back from spelling out DP's conspiracy theory. it's one thing nattering about political candidates, but pregnant 17 year olds is another thing.

although I don't expect this counts as holding back

agree with fishie. Who says her daughter is 5 months pregnant? She does! It will come as no great surprise to me if the daughter "loses" the baby.

dittany, i entirely agree with you about it being the lowest form of political behaviour, and I am in no way defending anyone, of either party, who stoops to these lengths.

but I still can't get on board with the misogynist stuff. yes, we're discussing it on MN, but that's because it concerns pregnancy and birth and children and Palin is a woman, which is kind of what MN is about, isn't it?

and the accusation is so outlandish that no wonder it's in the Times. something equally outlandish about Obama would also make it into the Times, I'm sure.

I know LittleMyDancing, it's not a nice rumour at all. Surely no mother would do that - I can't believe they would. But once you have seen the rumour it makes you think. I apologise if posting what I had seen was out of turn.

Wendyweber As far as I know the pictures of her looking very visibly pregnant are from past pregnancies. Not the current episode, where she appeared trim throughout.

Deviation and slightly off topic.

I love Mumsnet. On what other parenting site could you get the salacious gossip/conspiracy theories balanced with serious social/political analysis and a healthy sceptism regarding media/policital manipulation.

I have just spent a very illuminating, thought provoking hour reading through this thread and I think you are all brilliant.

Thank you.

(Not being sarcastic in case anyone thinks I am).

sorry Dittany; the 'Obama is a secret Muslim' stuff has been discussed on Mumsnet. Whether the 'Obama is the AntiChrist' one has or not I am unsure about.